The Truth About College Football And Recruiting.

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ThreatLevelOrange said:
Til now, they had mostly been pulling G5 guys. They also got Mendoza, their RB and their LT from major schools. I respectfully disagree. He’s like an NFL GM that knows you must pull in guys that no one else is on. Guys that are team captains, multi year starters and are coachable. And developed in the weight room. They pick their spots. Cignetti won’t overpay for a guy that isn’t buying into the team concept.
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Cignetti didn't have major money before Cuban stepped up so he took mostly guys from mid majors and such. That's very true.

Now that he has momentum and money, he's going to take guys from bigger programs and blue chip programs. Just watch or look at his portal gets this year. He's picking up B1G transfers.

Cignetti is a great coach but he's not going to forego great athletes just to support your notion that he likes to do more with less. He's going after great players now because he can now.

He didn't go after great P4 talent before for the same reason lesser programs don't: MONEY. He has money and he has momentum now. He'll recruit like everyone else from the blue chip athletes.

Stop with the hype that "he likes to do that." He doesn't and he won't do that when he doesn't need to do that anymore.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Heupel has had multiple 5 star QB’s recruited here. You can’t classify any of them being a bust. That’s just silly.

Nico started 1 year and was 11-3 as starter

Gmac and Faizon have yet to play

Not sure how anyone can say Heupel has struck out with his QB recruits on the field.
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In 5 years Heupel has only started one QB that he recruited out of high school. As we are apparently desperate for a transfer QB, it is still not known if Gmac or Faizon will get any real substantial playing time.

Maybe he doesn't start any of his recruits, except Nico due to the money he was being paid, because he doesn't want the other teams to see what we have to keep them from tampering with our QB recruits.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
In 5 years Heupel has only started one QB that he recruited out of high school. As we are apparently desperate for a transfer QB, it is still not known if Gmac or Faizon will get any real substantial playing time.
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The plan was to start Nico this year also. Until Joey A, Heupel started whoever was already here the year before.
 
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adam.vol said:
The plan was to start Nico this year also. Until Joey A, Heupel started whoever was already here the year before.
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As he should have. Take all the off the field drama with his family and NIL out of it. Nico did more than enough in his first full year of starting to establish a foundation. The Nico that UCLA had this year is NOT the Nico Tennessee would have had in year 3 in the system / under Heupel.

Nico went to a sh!t coaching staff with zero competence and he suffered for it. Both on and off the field.

I just find it very funny there are a lot of folks that think the Nico that played for UCLA would have been same Nico Tennessee/Heupel would have had if the relationship never soured and he stayed here.

I think Heupel would have been more than competent enough to spend all offseason to get Nico's mid/deep passing accuracy fixed.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
As he should have. Take all the off the field drama with his family and NIL out of it. Nico did more than enough in his first full year of starting to establish a foundation. The Nico that UCLA had this year is NOT the Nico Tennessee would have had in year 3 in the system / under Heupel.

Nico went to a sh!t coaching staff with zero competence and he suffered for it. Both on and off the field.

I just find it very funny there are a lot of folks that think the Nico that played for UCLA would have been same Nico Tennessee/Heupel would have had if the relationship never soured and he stayed here.

I think Heupel would have been more than competent enough to spend all offseason to get Nico's mid/deep passing accuracy fixed.
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I was really hoping that Nico’s struggles would serve as a cautionary tale to college athletes across the country and especially on this team, but it has not.

UCLA actually performed better than expected once Foster got canned. Unfortunately, games against Indiana, OSU, and USC is a brutal second half of the year. Playing against a coaching staff like Indiana’s seems to expose a team’s biggest weaknesses.
 
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marvin616 said:
Go back and watch the end of the Arkansas game that year. He walked the day before the spring game. If your boy was the great QB coach you're touting, his golden goose QB, the guy that UT $$$ went all in on at the cutting edge of NIL at the time, had a year in the system, took his lumps his first year starting and didn't lead the team, my reference to the Arkansas game in focus, but contributed. After all that, instead of going to his mentor that he should trust and working from there, he instead played hardball on the last day of spring practice because he didn't have balls to stand up to his dad because "culture"? I'm not buying it. Heupel's golden QB walked out on him. That's a bust. Don't see how else you can spin that.
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Then you need to educate yourself about the culture. The father absolutely controls everything about the family. If he says jump, the kids don’t even ask how high, they just do it. Fat Nick was calling the shots and Josh called his hand. It’s not complicated. Nico was a bust on his own.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
Indiana starts 16 portal guys because they’re hitting on almost all of them. They are handpicking older, hungrier coachable players from mid major schools. Pretty much the opposite of our approach. We tend to get Power 4 guys that we likely have to outbid someone to get.
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You’re kinda missing the major point that most of these mid major transfers came from JMU and PLAYED FOR CIGNETTI WHEN HE WAS THE HEAD COACH AT JMU.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Heupel has had multiple 5 star QB’s recruited here. You can’t classify any of them being a bust. That’s just silly.

Nico started 1 year and was 11-3 as starter

Gmac and Faizon have yet to play

Not sure how anyone can say Heupel has struck out with his QB recruits on the field.
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That’s great and all yet we end up with a 1 year guy from the portal. Not sure why we bother with these guys when they just transfer when recruited over
 
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#1fulmerite said:
The funniest thing of all is/was that Indiana beat Bama with a Bama type team. What has Indiana’s recruiting average been?
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I don't know. To me Bama has been alot softer since that year Tua became the starter and they opened it up. They have won 1 natty since then and that was the COVID year which is one big *.
 
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It’s getting harder and harder to justify the money being spent at UT for coaches and players based on the results.
 
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