The Takeaways from BG

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Here are my takeaways from the Bowling Green game. Realize that I am merely one of hundreds offering up my thoughts, but I enjoy doing this, so read if you like and “TL;DR” if you don’t.


Don’t Read Too Much Into The Game. There are many takeaways from the game. Yet for all the good, the bad, and the ugly, I’d say don’t read too much into it. This was the first game of the season and it was against a very unique opponent. We did learn a lot from this game, but some of the issues we saw against BG will be remedied in a couple of weeks (or may not be issues against other teams.) More importantly, I think we’ll see new issues pop up over time in areas where BG failed to exploit our weaknesses.

Bowling Green is Unique. There aren’t too many teams on our schedule that will look much like Bowling Green. Think of the next 11 teams we play. How many of them are fast-paced passing-oriented offenses with extremely talented wide receivers? Conversely, how many teams that we play will struggle that much on defense? South Carolina is probably the most comparable team on our schedule, but the vast majority of our opponents will look nothing like BG.

Dino Babers is a Great Coach. While it’s easy to focus on what we did wrong, I’ve got to say I was immensely impressed with Bowling Green. Dino Babers, BG’s head coach, made a huge leap from Year 1 to Year 2 in his previous job at I-AA Eastern Illinois. He finished his first year 7-5 with a couple of tough losses. His second season, he went 12-2 and beat one I-A team (San Diego St) and came a hair within beating a second (Northern Illinois). Mind you, Northern Illinois went 12-2, so they were no pushover. Dino is in his 2nd year at BG and I don’t think it’s implausible that this team was much better than the BG team of 2014 that finished 8-6. So while I was frustrated by some parts of our game, I would be careful to remember that BG might actually be a very good mid-major team this year.

Our Special Teams Play was Spectacular. Holy crap! This is the best I can ever remember our special teams playing in my entire life. Even during the Fulmer years, special teams were often a weakness. OK, so Medley had two rough FG tries, but otherwise, our special teams played darn near perfect. Medley’s misses are nothing to panic about, either, as they were both over 50 yards and in less than ideal weather conditions.

Hurd + Kamara Lived Up to Hype. I really hope both of these guys stay healthy this year, because this is one of the best 1-2 combos in all of college football. It’s difficult to say anything bad about either of these guys’ performances, because they both played outstanding. The other pleasant surprise: it's starting to look like we have more depth at RB than expected, as John Kelly played well, too.

O-line Played Better, but Will Be Tested. The O-line had a few failures this game, but overall, held up pretty well during the BG game. Certainly, it looked like an improvement over last year’s O-line. BG’s defensive front is likely one of the weaker fronts we’ll see this year, so it’s difficult to know how much we can take away from this. That said, the O-line looked very impressive in the running game and if I had to extrapolate, I think we’re much better in that regard this year. It struggled a bit more in pass protection, but still much better than last year. On a preliminary basis, I’d say O-line looks like it’s improved from a “3” (out of 10) in 2014 to maybe a “6” out of 10 in 2015. We’ll learn a lot more next week when we play Oklahoma. If we can get a good push against teams like Oklahoma and Florida, I think that will be a good sign for the season.

Jauan Jennings is a Stud. How many true Freshmen wide receivers can you think of that immediately made an impact in Game #1? And how many true Freshman WRs can you think of that did that after only converting to WR about a month before the season started? It seems insane to say it, but Jennings may be our best WR! Sure, he made the one bad block, but for a guy who has been playing WR for all of one month, he did extraordinarily well. Now, let’s just get the kid some more practice blocking!

Questions in the Secondary. I rated the secondary as one of our biggest strengths heading into the season, but we struggled in coverage against BG big-time. Injuries to McNeil and Gaulden almost certainly hurt us; we needed depth badly. Emmanuel Moseley and Micah Abernathy also struggled quite a bit. If there’s good news, I think most of our problems can be solved by better scheming, coaching, and experience. The bad news is that we don’t have too long to get these issues figured out with Oklahoma coming up next week. If we continue struggling with coverage, we’re going to have major issues with defending teams like Alabama and South Carolina.

On the Flipside. Even if our secondary struggled, we might be fortunate that it happened in Week 1 against an otherwise inferior opponent. Of the 12 teams on our schedule, it’s likely that Bowling Green will end up being one of the three most difficult passing attacks we’ll see all year. BG did not test us defensively and their running game never got much momentum, but their passing game is amongst the best in the nation.

We Made Good Adjustments. We had a horrible 2nd Quarter, but our coaches made the right adjustments after BG started picking apart our secondary. At the worst of it, the score was 21-20. After our coaches started adjusting, we outscored BG 38-10. It’s very impressive that we kept one of the best offenses in the nation under 10 points in the 2nd half. So don’t push the panic button on the secondary just yet. Also remember that BG tested our depth at secondary more than any other team on the schedule might.

Dobbs is Good, but Let’s Slow Down the Hype. I love Dobbs. He’s a good QB and probably the most intelligent QB we’ve ever had. The Dobbs hype train has gotten a bit out of hand, though (with some even calling him a Heisman candidate). Dobbs is a versatile QB that frustrates defense with his legs, but he’s still got to work on his field vision and the passing game in general. He chose to run in some spots where he had open receivers. We might have put up 59 points, but felt like there were plenty of missed opportunities in the passing game. It also became very clear in this game that our running game is the true strength. I think Dobbs will continue to improve as the seasons progresses, but I wouldn’t put him in the same category as Dak Prescott just yet.

Offense Looked Boring. Debord? More like Deboring! Just kidding. I did think our offense looked boring, but that was likely by design. We had very little difficulty running all over BG, so we didn’t really need to get fancy. It will be interesting to see how we change our style against tougher defenses, though. I actually don’t know how much we learned about our offense this game, because it wasn’t tested.

Few Turnovers. The most surprising thing about the game to me was that there was only one turnover. We only created one turnover, which I found disappointing. On the plus side, we had zero turnovers. Even against an inferior defense, not bad for Game #1. But I do feel like our D needs to create more turnovers to be elite this season.

Overall We looked dominant through most of this game, but showed some major weaknesses in the 2nd Quarter. We made excellent adjustments, but I do worry that our increasing depth issues at secondary could be an issue. Nevertheless, I’d rather have our coaches find the weaknesses now than against Georgia or Alabama several weeks from now.

Our offense ran all over BG, but don't know whether this will hold true with tougher opponents. Certainly our rushing game looked great, but my biggest concern is that good defenses will stack the box against us, and we won't be able to make plays in the passing game. I have a feeling we'll get a lot more answers though in Week #2.
 
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Don't pump the breaks on Dobbs or the year it's all in front of us..... Lots of work to be done, I think they are up for the challenge. I'm glad I've got the easy part; sit back, relax, and enjoy a special year . GO VOLS! WIN em ALL!
 
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I thought Medley's missed FG attempts were less than fifty.

Richmond not playing any is a bit puzzling. Did not think they were looking to RS him but that may be the case because this would have been a great opportunity for him to get in late in the game.

Mosley and Foreman are just bad.

Tackling was horrible.

Hope the OLine can hold up against better DLines.
 
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IMHO, the bigger failure on D was the DL not getting enough pressure to stop those throws. The BGSU QB was hitting practically everything. Sometimes he couldn't even see where he was throwing... just trusted the receiver to be there. But he needed to be hit a bunch and wasn't.
 
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Bowling Green is Unique. There aren’t too many teams on our schedule that will look much like Bowling Green.

1. Oklahoma runs an air raid offense just like BG and has several big time receivers and a stud running back. Couple that with a shutdown defense and we are in serious trouble next week.

2. There are plenty of capable quarterbacks in the SEC that would have and will pick apart a secondary like we saw yesterday. The sky certainly isn't falling, but yesterday raises serious concern about our ability to compete with Oklahoma next week.

3. I enjoyed watching the offense yesterday, but I can promise you that we will not run the ball like we did against OK and the rest of the SEC teams we play. We need our young receivers to step up and continue to make plays in critical moments. I believe we are going to need to rely on our passing game to open up the run this year.

Final thoughts: After yesterday's game I took a bit of a step back on team 119. Regardless of secondary/linebacker/D line issues yesterday, I saw a young football team that I don't think is ready to win against a team like Oklahoma next week. I still think we can get 8-9 wins, I just don't think we pull out the victory next week. Here's to hoping the boys prove me wrong.
 
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Nice post OP, you hit the highlights for sure. I hope the secondary can pick it up this coming weekend. I am looking forward to the game but cautious as well, ha ha, this is what makes it fun eh!
 
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Mosley and Foreman are just bad.

Both played very, very well last year. So what changed? Maybe the fact that BGSU's QB wasn't pressured often enough? There were times when both guys were in position and the throw/catch were just perfect. You guys need to lighten up some on those guys.
 
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IMHO, the bigger failure on D was the DL not getting enough pressure to stop those throws. The BGSU QB was hitting practically everything. Sometimes he couldn't even see where he was throwing... just trusted the receiver to be there. But he needed to be hit a bunch and wasn't.

He was putting the ball on the money and getting it out really quick and BGs Online was very experienced which may have made the difference there. I at least hope that is the case. We need the DLine to be great.
 
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Both played very, very well last year. So what changed? Maybe the fact that BGSU's QB wasn't pressured often enough? There were times when both guys were in position and the throw/catch were just perfect. You guys need to lighten up some on those guys.

Yeah you may be right there. I hope you are because we need them to play well.:good!:

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Maybe this will get them more focused.:)
 
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You guys got a decent highlight film up yet. I'll post ours over here when dudes finish cutting it down. So we can all compare.

You're going to see our back up back a lot this year in the game you didnt see last year because he was suspended. 5* redshirt freshman. Him and perine are our thunder and lightning thing.

If only the young Oline would shape up to use them effectively.
 
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You guys got a decent highlight film up yet. I'll post ours over here when dudes finish cutting it down. So we can all compare.

You're going to see our back up back a lot this year in the game you didnt see last year because he was suspended. 5* redshirt freshman. Him and perine are our thunder and lightning thing.

If only the young Oline would shape up to use them effectively.

Here's to hoping your Oline gets it together in about 2 to 3 weeks. We're going to need some help to get a win next week.
 
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Our young team managed to maintain their poise under tremendous pressure and that's great moving forward. Plenty to correct and work on and correct but that's typical . The Vols will face a big, fast, and physical OU team. This game will test our metal. Remember Norman ! :aggressive:
 
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Here's to hoping your Oline gets it together in about 2 to 3 weeks. We're going to need some help to get a win next week.

We'll see. Your offense is legit and your dline is solid. Thats a good combination to give any team a headache.
 
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IMHO, the bigger failure on D was the DL not getting enough pressure to stop those throws. The BGSU QB was hitting practically everything. Sometimes he couldn't even see where he was throwing... just trusted the receiver to be there. But he needed to be hit a bunch and wasn't.

No, just no. The biggest failure was playing man, press coverage and having our corners beaten right off the line without any help from a safety deep. Dieter in particular always had plenty of space and Moseley even interfered with him on a touchdown catch. The pressure wasn't great but would have been adequate with better coverage. I will say that Maggit looked lost at times and did not have a good game but overall we we did a good job of flushing Johnson from the pocket when we had a chance too but did not do as well getting him down when we could have. Some of those long pass completions were thrown within two seconds of the snap. The rush never had a chance. That is when our backs have to do their job. We were bailed out two possessions with an unforced fumble inside the 5 and an unsportsmanlike penalty on Babers or BG could have hung 40 on us - not good at all. Let's hope some changes are made.
 
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My biggest takeaway from the game is our defense didnt look like last years schematically, Barnett played weak side allot more than usual and I believe Vereen got more snaps at DE than Maggit did, plus our D line was dealing with major non called holds almost every play. I truly believe we will see a much different defense in next week's game, at least I hope. If not we may have to win a shootout.
 
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1. Oklahoma runs an air raid offense just like BG and has several big time receivers and a stud running back. Couple that with a shutdown defense and we are in serious trouble next week.
No. Not quite. They do not run the same O and they don't run it nearly as fast even though they're a up tempo team. They also do not have the same quality at QB.

Yesterday, they like so many others that UT is being compared to either consciously or unconsciously played an opponent that hasn't had a winning season in 10 years.

Also it is key to remember that they played an Akron team that hasn't had a credible O in at least 5 years. They're just terrible.

Akron stopped OU on the first 6 possessions before getting overwhelmed.

2. There are plenty of capable quarterbacks in the SEC that would have and will pick apart a secondary like we saw yesterday. The sky certainly isn't falling, but yesterday raises serious concern about our ability to compete with Oklahoma next week.
UT will not face a QB for the rest of the season who plays better than Johnson played. There seriously aren't many left on the schedule who even can. The guy has a very strong arm and was as accurate as you can be especially on the deep throws that hurt UT most.

3. I enjoyed watching the offense yesterday, but I can promise you that we will not run the ball like we did against OK and the rest of the SEC teams we play. We need our young receivers to step up and continue to make plays in critical moments. I believe we are going to need to rely on our passing game to open up the run this year.
You are making far too much of what you think you saw. As you rewatch the game and especially the O, note how many times BGSU was in run blitz/stunt... and UT still ran the ball successfully.

It is unlikely that anyone else will game plan UT like that and even less likely that Jones will game plan in a way that allows it.

UT will continue to be run first and then pass MORE to open things up.

Look at it from an opponent's perspective, do they want to try to beat UT when the Vols score 59? Well they can pick their poison now. Stop the run and have Dobbs hit big plays down field- he just showed a hint of what he can do yesterday... or play more balanced.

Final thoughts: After yesterday's game I took a bit of a step back on team 119. Regardless of secondary/linebacker/D line issues yesterday, I saw a young football team that I don't think is ready to win against a team like Oklahoma next week. I still think we can get 8-9 wins, I just don't think we pull out the victory next week. Here's to hoping the boys prove me wrong.
You and many others are overreacting to one game that may or may not point to "real" problems.
 
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I agree with almost all those points op. That had dynamic chemistry in the long passing plays. A lot of teams we'll play this year have better lines and skill position players...but very few will have qb/wr combos better at hitting that sideline bomb as consistently as them. I think we played well and you almost want them to encounter a little adversity with a great opponent coming up. It gives the coaches something to yell about
 
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No. Not quite. They do not run the same O and they don't run it nearly as fast even though they're a up tempo team. They also do not have the same quality at QB.

Yesterday, they like so many others that UT is being compared to either consciously or unconsciously played an opponent that hasn't had a winning season in 10 years.

Also it is key to remember that they played an Akron team that hasn't had a credible O in at least 5 years. They're just terrible.

Akron stopped OU on the first 6 possessions before getting overwhelmed.

UT will not face a QB for the rest of the season who plays better than Johnson played. There seriously aren't many left on the schedule who even can. The guy has a very strong arm and was as accurate as you can be especially on the deep throws that hurt UT most.

3. I enjoyed watching the offense yesterday, but I can promise you that we will not run the ball like we did against OK and the rest of the SEC teams we play. We need our young receivers to step up and continue to make plays in critical moments. I believe we are going to need to rely on our passing game to open up the run this year.
You are making far too much of what you think you saw. As you rewatch the game and especially the O, note how many times BGSU was in run blitz/stunt... and UT still ran the ball successfully.

It is unlikely that anyone else will game plan UT like that and even less likely that Jones will game plan in a way that allows it.

UT will continue to be run first and then pass MORE to open things up.

Look at it from an opponent's perspective, do they want to try to beat UT when the Vols score 59? Well they can pick their poison now. Stop the run and have Dobbs hit big plays down field- he just showed a hint of what he can do yesterday... or play more balanced.

You and many others are overreacting to one game that may or may not point to "real" problems.
You're lifting my spirits a bit here. Stop It!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
 
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No, just no. The biggest failure was playing man, press coverage and having our corners beaten right off the line without any help from a safety deep. Dieter in particular always had plenty of space and Moseley even interfered with him on a touchdown catch. The pressure wasn't great but would have been adequate with better coverage. I will say that Maggit looked lost at times and did not have a good game but overall we we did a good job of flushing Johnson from the pocket when we had a chance too but did not do as well getting him down when we could have. Some of those long pass completions were thrown within two seconds of the snap. The rush never had a chance. That is when our backs have to do their job. We were bailed out two possessions with an unforced fumble inside the 5 and an unsportsmanlike penalty on Babers or BG could have hung 40 on us - not good at all. Let's hope some changes are made.

UT had 3 sacks (none by Maggitt or Barnett) and 4 QB hurries ALL GAME against a team that dropped back to pass 54 times. I'm sorry if you think that was sufficient pressure but even Jones said it wasn't at the half. The QB was accurate and threw to a spot on timing routes numerous times. That hurts the pass rush obviously. But it also hurts the DB's. Several times the coverage was tight but the throw and catch were just perfect.

The worst thing I saw with the DB's is that they weren't physical at the LOS. It seemed to improve late in the game but early Dieter was getting free releases.
 
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Dobbs is Good, but Let’s Slow Down the Hype. I love Dobbs. He’s a good QB and probably the most intelligent QB we’ve ever had. The Dobbs hype train has gotten a bit out of hand, though (with some even calling him a Heisman candidate). Dobbs is a versatile QB that frustrates defense with his legs, but he’s still got to work on his field vision and the passing game in general. He chose to run in some spots where he had open receivers. We might have put up 59 points, but felt like there were plenty of missed opportunities in the passing game. It also became very clear in this game that our running game is the true strength. I think Dobbs will continue to improve as the seasons progresses, but I wouldn’t put him in the same category as Dak Prescott just yet.

I agree with almost everything you said but I'd have to disagree on the Dobbs assesment. While he was not PERFECT yesterday, he was really good and lived up to the hype. 15 of 22 thru the air. Over 200 yards passing. Over 80 yards rushing. 3 total TDs. I'd call that a pretty efficient day. Especially given the focus on the running game.

I would go so far as to say it the most impressive I've ever seen him look. Maybe not in terms of numbers but he looked in command. His accuracy looked improved. He didn't throw one pass that was close to being intercepted. Josh Malone dropped a sure long completion. And he looked even more explosive on the read option and even more evasive than he was last year in avoiding sacks.

As long as we have Joshua Dobbs, we will have a chance against every team on our schedule (not named Alabama).
 
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1. Oklahoma runs an air raid offense just like BG and has several big time receivers and a stud running back. Couple that with a shutdown defense and we are in serious trouble next week.

2. There are plenty of capable quarterbacks in the SEC that would have and will pick apart a secondary like we saw yesterday. The sky certainly isn't falling, but yesterday raises serious concern about our ability to compete with Oklahoma next week.

3. I enjoyed watching the offense yesterday, but I can promise you that we will not run the ball like we did against OK and the rest of the SEC teams we play. We need our young receivers to step up and continue to make plays in critical moments. I believe we are going to need to rely on our passing game to open up the run this year.

Final thoughts: After yesterday's game I took a bit of a step back on team 119. Regardless of secondary/linebacker/D line issues yesterday, I saw a young football team that I don't think is ready to win against a team like Oklahoma next week. I still think we can get 8-9 wins, I just don't think we pull out the victory next week. Here's to hoping the boys prove me wrong.

What makes you think this team is better than an 8 win team? All the preseason hype has Vol fans and maybe even the players believing it. When you look at this game, we won (thank you) and beat the spread by 7 or about what an objective person would expect.

I really believe some of the break downs can be a positive in that they can bring everyone back to reality. Especially the players. They can work on the negatives and realize they are going to have to scratch and claw to win. If they do, they may win 8 games.

So be happy we are 1-0. For awhile yesterday I was wondering if we would be. Let's get ready for OK.
 
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I agree with almost all those points op. That had dynamic chemistry in the long passing plays. A lot of teams we'll play this year have better lines and skill position players...but very few will have qb/wr combos better at hitting that sideline bomb as consistently as them. I think we played well and you almost want them to encounter a little adversity with a great opponent coming up. It gives the coaches something to yell about

Exactly. Yesterdays game went just like you would want given how young our team is and all the offseason hype. If we won 41-3 (like Oklahoma did) and didn't face any adversity, maybe the guys buy into the offseason kool-aid. Its better that they face adversity for the first time in the second quarter against Bowling Green, than in the first quarter against Oklahoma next week.
 
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UT had 3 sacks (none by Maggitt or Barnett) and 4 QB hurries ALL GAME against a team that dropped back to pass 54 times. I'm sorry if you think that was sufficient pressure but even Jones said it wasn't at the half. The QB was accurate and threw to a spot on timing routes numerous times. That hurts the pass rush obviously. But it also hurts the DB's. Several times the coverage was tight but the throw and catch were just perfect.

The worst thing I saw with the DB's is that they weren't physical at the LOS. It seemed to improve late in the game but early Dieter was getting free releases.

You hit the nail on the head. You throw it up long enough times you will connect. Some passes were perfectly thrown and even the best DB would not break it up. Passes also came out fast preventing a good pass rush. Disrupting the timing at the line of scrimmage is the only way to defend a hot passer and good receivers when DBs are on an island like they were yesterday.
 
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I haven't watched the replay yet, but from what I saw on several of those deep throws our corners looked to be in good position. Their QB just made some passes that were perfect. I may see things differenly after I watch the replay, but that's what it looked like to me.
 
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