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Russia Collusion: Hillary Clinton, DNC, & FBI are the Real Stars | National Review

In a textbook example of denial and projection, Trump foes in and out of government wove a sinister yarn meant to take him down...

  • Well-intentioned but careless, said the commander in chief, describing Hillary's use of a private email server. Three months later, Comey, in a Vulcan mind-meld with his boss, arrived at an identical conclusion.
  • If Comey had followed the letter of the law, the trail of guilt may have led all the way to Obama himself.
  • McCabe and the two lovers demonstrated the very essence of the right stuff: a breezy comfort with bending the law to the demands of politics.

Shaming was all well and good, but it only resonated among committed voters. Winning the election required convincing independents that Trump was more than just a passive beneficiary of the DNC hack; he had to be an accomplice. Clinton's campaign thus posted five questions on its website:

1. What's behind Trump's fascination with Vladimir Putin?

2. Why does Trump surround himself with advisers with links to the Kremlin?

3. Why do Trump's foreign policy ideas read like a Putin wish list?

4. Do Trump's still-secret tax returns show ties to Russian oligarchs?

5. Why is Trump encouraging Russia to interfere in our election?

Each question was followed by a short answer, leading to the inevitable conclusion that Trump was actively conspiring with Putin.

And so, the collusion thesis was born.


  • Simpson staked the credibility of the dossier on just one thing: Steele's super awesomeness.
  • Democratic lawmakers became the ventriloquist's dummies, moving their lips mechanically as CIA director Brennan spoke.
  • The Clinton campaign called on the FBI to investigate.
  • We have a word to describe the use of fabricated evidence to make an innocent man appear guilty: The Obama administration framed Carter Page. But not only Carter Page. The Obama administration framed Donald Trump.
  • Brennan's somber and self-righteous appeal to hidden secrets is the oldest con in the book.
  • Choose your poison, Hillary enablers: You duped people and thereby abetted a gross abuse of power; or you were yourself badly duped.

THE GREAT DENIER...Of course, no one is in deeper denial than Hillary Clinton herself. After she had conceded to Trump on the night of the election, Obama called her. Taking the phone, she said, "Mr. President, I'm sorry."

Sorry, no doubt, that the baton had fallen to the ground once again. Sorry that she would not be the first female president. Sorry that she would not hold the reins of power. But was contrition an aspect of any component of her sorrow?

If there is one thing Hillary Clinton does not do well, it is contrition. In an interview last September, she clung to the fiction that the election was stolen. Her belief that Trump conspired with Putin was absolute. "There certainly was communication, and there certainly was an understanding of some sort", Clinton said. She had "no doubt" that Putin sought a Trump victory, that there was a "tangle of financial relationships" between Trump and Russia, and that Trump's associates "worked really hard to hide their connections with Russians." Were those, in her mind, clear signs of collusion? "I'm convinced of it", she said.

She will remain convinced until the day she dies. The alternative, a rigorous examination of conscience, is too painful to contemplate. How much longer will Hillary Clinton's damaged psyche hold America hostage?
 
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In before Lucille, Mick, LG, and the other liberals...

National Review is a right wing propaganda machine. Dotard Dennison...Impeach 45...Assault rifles...$130,000 in hush money paid to a whore...Russia...

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Russia Collusion: Hillary Clinton, DNC, & FBI are the Real Stars | National Review

In a textbook example of denial and projection, Trump foes in and out of government wove a sinister yarn meant to take him down...

  • Well-intentioned but careless, said the commander in chief, describing Hillary's use of a private email server. Three months later, Comey, in a Vulcan mind-meld with his boss, arrived at an identical conclusion.
  • If Comey had followed the letter of the law, the trail of guilt may have led all the way to Obama himself.
  • McCabe and the two lovers demonstrated the very essence of the right stuff: a breezy comfort with bending the law to the demands of politics.

Shaming was all well and good, but it only resonated among committed voters. Winning the election required convincing independents that Trump was more than just a passive beneficiary of the DNC hack; he had to be an accomplice. Clinton's campaign thus posted five questions on its website:

1. What's behind Trump's fascination with Vladimir Putin?

2. Why does Trump surround himself with advisers with links to the Kremlin?

3. Why do Trump's foreign policy ideas read like a Putin wish list?

4. Do Trump's still-secret tax returns show ties to Russian oligarchs?

5. Why is Trump encouraging Russia to interfere in our election?

Each question was followed by a short answer, leading to the inevitable conclusion that Trump was actively conspiring with Putin.

And so, the collusion thesis was born.


  • Simpson staked the credibility of the dossier on just one thing: Steele's super awesomeness.
  • Democratic lawmakers became the ventriloquist's dummies, moving their lips mechanically as CIA director Brennan spoke.
  • The Clinton campaign called on the FBI to investigate.
  • We have a word to describe the use of fabricated evidence to make an innocent man appear guilty: The Obama administration framed Carter Page. But not only Carter Page. The Obama administration framed Donald Trump.
  • Brennan's somber and self-righteous appeal to hidden secrets is the oldest con in the book.
  • Choose your poison, Hillary enablers: You duped people and thereby abetted a gross abuse of power; or you were yourself badly duped.

THE GREAT DENIER...Of course, no one is in deeper denial than Hillary Clinton herself. After she had conceded to Trump on the night of the election, Obama called her. Taking the phone, she said, "Mr. President, I'm sorry."

Sorry, no doubt, that the baton had fallen to the ground once again. Sorry that she would not be the first female president. Sorry that she would not hold the reins of power. But was contrition an aspect of any component of her sorrow?

If there is one thing Hillary Clinton does not do well, it is contrition. In an interview last September, she clung to the fiction that the election was stolen. Her belief that Trump conspired with Putin was absolute. "There certainly was communication, and there certainly was an understanding of some sort", Clinton said. She had "no doubt" that Putin sought a Trump victory, that there was a "tangle of financial relationships" between Trump and Russia, and that Trump's associates "worked really hard to hide their connections with Russians." Were those, in her mind, clear signs of collusion? "I'm convinced of it", she said.

She will remain convinced until the day she dies. The alternative, a rigorous examination of conscience, is too painful to contemplate. How much longer will Hillary Clinton's damaged psyche hold America hostage?

You've got her now.
 
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1. What's behind Trump's fascination with Vladimir Putin?

2. Why does Trump surround himself with advisers with links to the Kremlin?

3. Why do Trump's foreign policy ideas read like a Putin wish list?

4. Do Trump's still-secret tax returns show ties to Russian oligarchs?

5. Why is Trump encouraging Russia to interfere in our election?


All excellent questions.

Trump has yet to answer any of it.
 
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If Dems really wanted to get Trump they should have probably have not gone with the not illegal collusion angle. Just because you can rustle the vag's of your foamy mouth lunatic base with the word collusion it doesn't mean it means anything..

Can't tell who is trolling libtards harder, Trump or Mueller..
 
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If Dems really wanted to get Trump they should have probably have not gone with the not illegal collusion angle. Just because you can rustle the vag's of your foamy mouth lunatic base with the word collusion it doesn't mean it means anything..

Can't tell who is trolling libtards harder, Trump or Mueller..

What makes you believe that Muellers probe is limited to just "collusion" or even that collusion is the only thing that Mueller can charge anyone with?

The only people really using this as a rallying cry is Trump. Most rational people see obstruction of justice as the potential charge, if any.
 
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Russia Collusion: Hillary Clinton, DNC, & FBI are the Real Stars | National Review

In a textbook example of denial and projection, Trump foes in and out of government wove a sinister yarn meant to take him down...

  • Well-intentioned but careless, said the commander in chief, describing Hillary's use of a private email server. Three months later, Comey, in a Vulcan mind-meld with his boss, arrived at an identical conclusion.
  • If Comey had followed the letter of the law, the trail of guilt may have led all the way to Obama himself.
  • McCabe and the two lovers demonstrated the very essence of the right stuff: a breezy comfort with bending the law to the demands of politics.

Shaming was all well and good, but it only resonated among committed voters. Winning the election required convincing independents that Trump was more than just a passive beneficiary of the DNC hack; he had to be an accomplice. Clinton's campaign thus posted five questions on its website:

1. What's behind Trump's fascination with Vladimir Putin?

2. Why does Trump surround himself with advisers with links to the Kremlin?

3. Why do Trump's foreign policy ideas read like a Putin wish list?

4. Do Trump's still-secret tax returns show ties to Russian oligarchs?

5. Why is Trump encouraging Russia to interfere in our election?

Each question was followed by a short answer, leading to the inevitable conclusion that Trump was actively conspiring with Putin.

And so, the collusion thesis was born.


  • Simpson staked the credibility of the dossier on just one thing: Steele's super awesomeness.
  • Democratic lawmakers became the ventriloquist's dummies, moving their lips mechanically as CIA director Brennan spoke.
  • The Clinton campaign called on the FBI to investigate.
  • We have a word to describe the use of fabricated evidence to make an innocent man appear guilty: The Obama administration framed Carter Page. But not only Carter Page. The Obama administration framed Donald Trump.
  • Brennan's somber and self-righteous appeal to hidden secrets is the oldest con in the book.
  • Choose your poison, Hillary enablers: You duped people and thereby abetted a gross abuse of power; or you were yourself badly duped.

THE GREAT DENIER...Of course, no one is in deeper denial than Hillary Clinton herself. After she had conceded to Trump on the night of the election, Obama called her. Taking the phone, she said, "Mr. President, I'm sorry."

Sorry, no doubt, that the baton had fallen to the ground once again. Sorry that she would not be the first female president. Sorry that she would not hold the reins of power. But was contrition an aspect of any component of her sorrow?

If there is one thing Hillary Clinton does not do well, it is contrition. In an interview last September, she clung to the fiction that the election was stolen. Her belief that Trump conspired with Putin was absolute. "There certainly was communication, and there certainly was an understanding of some sort", Clinton said. She had "no doubt" that Putin sought a Trump victory, that there was a "tangle of financial relationships" between Trump and Russia, and that Trump's associates "worked really hard to hide their connections with Russians." Were those, in her mind, clear signs of collusion? "I'm convinced of it", she said.

She will remain convinced until the day she dies. The alternative, a rigorous examination of conscience, is too painful to contemplate. How much longer will Hillary Clinton's damaged psyche hold America hostage?

Knew from the title that this right wing conspiracy propaganda . The national review.......:eek:lol: Buckley is spinning in his grave.
 
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What makes you believe that Muellers probe is limited to just "collusion" or even that collusion is the only thing that Mueller can charge anyone with?

The only people really using this as a rallying cry is Trump. Most rational people see obstruction of justice as the potential charge, if any.

It isn't limited to collusion (which isn't a crime). It was started as a collusion investigation and incredibly, against normal DOJ operating procedures, has become a fishing expedition. I mean everyone knows that.

Look at the guys Mueller "charged". 2 dudes who supposedly were responsible for over 100 million dollars in fraud which carried over 300 years of prison sentences...and they end up pleading guilty to charges that basically come with no sentence..while those huge mind blowing indictments of fraud become farts in the wind. Seems..fishy..get it?

Here is the thing that bothers me..that an inquiry is opened into election collusion, which has been proven to not have happened, yet this guy gets to dig into anything and everything not election related.

Imagine getting a speeding ticket then the Cops subpoena your home computer..

This thing has become a circus like the OJ trial..with waaaaaaaaay less actual illegal sh!t...(and murder).
 
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It isn't limited to collusion (which isn't a crime). It was started as a collusion investigation and incredibly, against normal DOJ operating procedures, has become a fishing expedition. I mean everyone knows that.

Look at the guys Mueller "charged". 2 dudes who supposedly were responsible for over 100 million dollars in fraud which carried over 300 years of prison sentences...and they end up pleading guilty to charges that basically come with no sentence..while those huge mind blowing indictments of fraud become farts in the wind. Seems..fishy..get it?

Here is the thing that bothers me..that an inquiry is opened into election collusion, which has been proven to not have happened, yet this guy gets to dig into anything and everything not election related.

Imagine getting a speeding ticket then the Cops subpoena your home computer..

This thing has become a circus like the OJ trial..with waaaaaaaaay less actual illegal sh!t...(and murder).

How could you possibly know this? Mueller has remained quiet except for the formal charges he brought thus far.

Is it possible you're mistaking no charges (yet) for no charges (ever)?

How do you know what he's digging into or not digging into? Media speculation?

You're conflating what you want to believe is happening with the fact that you have no idea what's happening.

If Trump is innocent, he shouldn't be so working so hard to undermine the credibility of the person that can prove it.
 
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If Trump is innocent, he shouldn't be so working so hard to undermine the credibility of the person that can prove it.


That's the biggest problem for Trump at the moment -- his own tirades that make it look like he is desperate to derail it.

Why ask Comey to back off of Flynn then fire him when he doesn't?

Why hand Nunes stuff to supposedly exonerate him with the staged hand it back to him foolishness?

Why attack Comey, Rosenstein, then McCabe, all Republicans for not interfering with the investigation?

Why keep going on twitter to constantly try to attack people that aren't just caving on all of this, and accuse them of all sorts of things to hurt their credibility?

As Gowdy said this weekend, if you are innocent how about you start acting like it? Because so far Trump is acting like he's guilty as sin and is doing everything he can think of to stop it from coming out.
 
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That's the biggest problem for Trump at the moment -- his own tirades that make it look like he is desperate to derail it.

Why ask Comey to back off of Flynn then fire him when he doesn't?

Why hand Nunes stuff to supposedly exonerate him with the staged hand it back to him foolishness?

Why attack Comey, Rosenstein, then McCabe, all Republicans for not interfering with the investigation?

Why keep going on twitter to constantly try to attack people that aren't just caving on all of this, and accuse them of all sorts of things to hurt their credibility?

As Gowdy said this weekend, if you are innocent how about you start acting like it? Because so far Trump is acting like he's guilty as sin and is doing everything he can think of to stop it from coming out.

I think he realizes he can't hope to stop it or even contain the flow of information - which is why he's working so hard to undermine the credibility of those who know the most.
 
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How could you possibly know this? Mueller has remained quiet except for the formal charges he brought thus far.

Is it possible you're mistaking no charges (yet) for no charges (ever)?

How do you know what he's digging into or not digging into? Media speculation?

You're conflating what you want to believe is happening with the fact that you have no idea what's happening.

If Trump is innocent, he shouldn't be so working so hard to undermine the credibility of the person that can prove it.

This is what I don't understand. If I were innocent I would be doing everything in my power to expedite and put resources to a quick resolution. I certainly wouldn't be attacking the guy in charge of it all.
 
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I think he realizes he can't hope to stop it or even contain the flow of information - which is why he's working so hard to undermine the credibility of those who know the most.

However...

If the reports I read from this morning are accurate, the fact it's gone way beyond the simple Russia-Trump collusion investigation to matters which have happened since he's been in office (firing of Comey being the most given example) then yes, it's a witch hunt and nothing less.
 
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IMO, which don't mean much...The president is extremely frustrated. I know I sure as hell would be, if I knew this was all complete hogwash. I simply think Trump's over this political stunt that hangs over his presidency and administration, when he knows that he did not collude with the Russians, nor engage in any criminal conspiracy to influence an election with a foreign person(s)... like HRC/DNC/Perkins Coie/Fusion GPS/and other Clintonite's did (but hey, let's just ignore those facts).

Mueller likely relishes the power and authority he's been granted. I don't know the man, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's trying to make a name in history for himself. Let's see if he does the honorable thing this year, and reports there's no there there. If there is something, let's bring what he's got to light ASAP.

IMO, there's no need for a special counsel. It should never have been initiated. Unfortunately that's where we are at, and no one knows what Mueller is doing...well, except for "unnamed sources".
 
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This is what I don't understand. If I were innocent I would be doing everything in my power to expedite and put resources to a quick resolution. I certainly wouldn't be attacking the guy in charge of it all.

He and the WH have been more cooperative than any other WH, and have willfully provided unrequested documents etc etc.

He's just frustrated with all the media and political shenanigans...I would be too, if I were innocent. Most people keep their mouth shut, but most people ain't Trump.

Unfortunately, he's got an unnecessary cloud hanging over his presidency, the administration and this country.
The Trump-Russia fantasy is all political bunk, everyone knows it's B.S.
 
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However...

If the reports I read from this morning are accurate, the fact it's gone way beyond the simple Russia-Trump collusion investigation to matters which have happened since he's been in office (firing of Comey being the most given example) then yes, it's a witch hunt and nothing less.

If his firing of Comey was an attempt at obstructing the initial investigation, he opened that door himself.

This whole 'witch hunt' narrative is nothing more than speculation since none of us knows what Mueller know's or doesn't know or where he's going.

People who are innocent don't sweat this profusely.
 
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If his firing of Comey was an attempt at obstructing the initial investigation, he opened that door himself.

This whole 'witch hunt' narrative is nothing more than speculation since none of us knows what Mueller know's or doesn't know or where he's going.

People who are innocent don't sweat this profusely.

Yea the Feds have never gotten one wrong
 
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If his firing of Comey was an attempt at obstructing the initial investigation, he opened that door himself.

This whole 'witch hunt' narrative is nothing more than speculation since none of us knows what Mueller know's or doesn't know or where he's going.

People who are innocent don't sweat this profusely.

If, yes. However, I feel there's more to the FBI IG report that has yet to be seen in regards to McCabe and Comey.

I also feel like Mueller will cheapen the whole process if he ends up with something very minor AND that happened after Trump was in office.

Biggest thing for me is the fact Rosenstein said he would recuse himself if it turned out Mueller put him under the microscope for his recommendation to remove Comey. Since that hasn't happened, I'd dare say Comey is nothing more than a media smokescreen and red meat for the left base. Not saying it won't or couldn't happen down the road, but for the moment, I don't think there is anything related to the Comey/McCabe firing on the radar.
 
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