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Col_Cathcart said:
What’s he updating about players? There’s no new data
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He has said multiple times he adjusts impacts based on multiple factors as more data from previous seasons comes in. I’m willing to bet we aren’t 17 on his final preseason ranking, maybe I’m wrong, but he’s said these aren’t final or even close to final.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
Last time I checked, they both had it, but I have Hulu currently so I can only vouch for their offerings at the moment. They give me access to everything I need, but the recording options are a little clunky imo
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The DVR feature is what separates YTTV from any other service I tried. And I start games late on the DVR, so for me that feature is critical.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Pope better make a deep run this year or he’s likely done. Boosters continuing to back him and spend big on the portal, they’ll expect big results.

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My son trains with the same trainer (plyometrics) as Jerone Morton and they paid that kid over 1 mil and he looks to be very mid. Their fans keep saying we outspent everyone for our roster, but they're giving 1mil+ to bench players that might not get 10 min a game.
 
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Stoked said:
My son trains with the same trainer (plyometrics) as Jerone Morton and they paid that kid over 1 mil and he looks to be very mid. Their fans keep saying we outspent everyone for our roster, but they're giving 1mil+ to bench players that might not get 10 min a game.
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What age is your son?

My brother in law said his son (entering the 8th grade) is working with a professional trainer now also. Luckily my boy is still very young, but I never thought training at the amateur level could become a requirement.. It’s kind of depressing to think that is what it’s come to.

I guess it makes sense now that kids are spending time playing video games while many of us grew up doing manual labor. Got to get exercise somehow.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Maybe I’m just being overly pessimistic, but #6 seems a bit optimistic. I like the roster we built, but think there are still a few gaps that I have questions about translating to a full season. Torvik has us at #17 right now, which seems more realistic.

I’m still pumped for the season though. Rick has a way of getting teams to exceed expectations usually.
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There’s no way this isn’t a top 10 roster.

I say that knowing basically nothing about any other team because I only care about UT. But I’m still certain it’s true.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Maybe I’m just being overly pessimistic, but #6 seems a bit optimistic. I like the roster we built, but think there are still a few gaps that I have questions about translating to a full season. Torvik has us at #17 right now, which seems more realistic.

I’m still pumped for the season though. Rick has a way of getting teams to exceed expectations usually.
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You can stop there.
 
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YankeeVol said:
If money were no issue....that's a dumb question.

One played in a major conference, the other did not.
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Ok … but he explicitly made money a question. So what’s your point? 😂

To answer the question, I don’t think Milan provides more than three times the value of TL, give me Lundblade at 1.5 mil
 
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YankeeVol said:
If money were no issue....that's a dumb question.

One played in a major conference, the other did not.
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Well, yeah, but that’s why I was clear to make their supposed NIL figures the linchpin of the discussion. Otherwise, yeah...if you could get either one of the two for the same price (knowing what we know about both guys), everyone is choosing Momsilovic. That feels like stating the obvious.

Is Momsilovic 3-4x better than Lundblade? I doubt it.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Well, yeah, but that’s why I was clear to make their supposed NIL figures the linchpin of the discussion. Otherwise, yeah...if you could get either one of the two for the same price (knowing what we know about both guys), everyone is choosing Momsilovic. That feels like stating the obvious.

Is Momsilovic 3-4x better than Lundblade? I doubt it.
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I'm under the impression that our NIL funding philosophy has notably shifted since the Rice recruitment. I may be dead wrong, but I think there's more of "we will make the funds available for the right/best players" vibe at this point. Jmo, I will need a defined budget or NIL cap before I advocate for frugality in bball roster construction. If the funders are willing to pony up the money for Momsilovic in lieu of Lundblade, then the specific number on the price tag loses significance for me.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I'm under the impression that our NIL funding philosophy has notably shifted since the Rice recruitment. I may be dead wrong, but I think there's more of "we will make the funds available for the right/best players" vibe at this point. Jmo, I will need a defined budget or NIL cap before I advocate for frugality in bball roster construction. If the funders are willing to pony up the money for Momsilovic in lieu of Lundblade, then the specific number on the price tag loses significance for me.
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Funds aren’t unlimited, I said that repeatedly this off season. They also stick very closely to their formula which determines a players value based on their budget, there’s not a player in the country their model would’ve told them to spend ~$6m on.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Serious question, who would you rather have?

Milan Momcilovic at $5.5 million?
Or
Tyler Lundblade at $1.5 million?
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My answer to the question is that Momcilivic would have been worth $10 million to Pope to avoid a summer of the kind of abuse that spoiled, entitled fan base would have subjected him to. This at least buys him until next March, barring a mid-season meltdown if this roster doesn't provide the 25-27 wins that fan base will now expect.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Funds aren’t unlimited, I said that repeatedly this off season. They also stick very closely to their formula which determines a players value based on their budget, there’s not a player in the country their model would’ve told them to spend ~$6m on.
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I def think that makes sense. If Momsilovic is not willing to budge from the $5.5M price tag and if the staff/collective is not willing to pay that much, then this hypothetical is entirely moot imo.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I def think that makes sense. If Momsilovic is not willing to budge from the $5.5M price tag and if the staff/collective is not willing to pay that much, then this hypothetical is entirely moot imo.
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The hypothetical would probably have made more sense to say, would you prefer:

Juke & Lundblade for $6m or Momcilovic for $6m
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I'm under the impression that our NIL funding philosophy has notably shifted since the Rice recruitment. I may be dead wrong, but I think there's more of "we will make the funds available for the right/best players" vibe at this point. Jmo, I will need a defined budget or NIL cap before I advocate for frugality in bball roster construction. If the funders are willing to pony up the money for Momsilovic in lieu of Lundblade, then the specific number on the price tag loses significance for me.
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In terms of funding, I think you are partly right. Donors are willing to pony up for the right guys. But I don't think it is such a blank check that we are able (or willing) to front the cash for multiple guys commanding the kinds of salaries that Juke Harris and Momcilovic are commanding.

The other issue specific to Lundblade vs Momcilovic is timing. Literally 2 months have passed between Lubdblade committing and Momcilovic committing. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Lubdblade came at a good value ahead of the rest of the class, addressed an obvious immediate need, and was in the boat before the portal hardly opened. That is significant because we were able to focus on other targets and financial allocations without having to wait around until the very end on a guy who was going to command a huge chunk of our budget, no matter how fluid it may have been.

All that considered, I don't believe Momcilovic brings so much more to the table that the cost and risk associated with him made him more valuable than Lundblade.
 
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