"The Kiffin Rule"

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Is this new punishment sent down by the comish going to be known by all as the "Kiffin Rule"
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It should be the "Mike Slive is an ignorant SOB and won't recognize the real problem" rule.
 
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VolFan32 said:
It should be the "Mike Slive is an ignorant SOB and won't recognize the real problem" rule.
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Actually it should be the "Mike Slive is an ARROGANT SOB and doesn't care about the real problem"

He's not ignorant to the fact the SEC officiating has been lousy this season. He may well be the cause of it.
 
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Slive has used officiating to protect the two big comodities for the sec title game. 1 v. 2 in the the conf title game would probably bring a lot of ratings (money) to the conf.
 
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Lane's own AD Mike Hamilton and University President agreed with Slive:

"It became clear to me after last week that I was no longer interested in reprimands and the conference athletic directors and university presidents unanimously agreed," said Slive, in his eighth season as the head of the SEC."
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Lane's own AD Mike Hamilton and University President agreed with Slive:

"It became clear to me after last week that I was no longer interested in reprimands and the conference athletic directors and university presidents unanimously agreed," said Slive, in his eighth season as the head of the SEC."
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Of course they are going to agree, they want to minimize the amount of trouble that it will cause them.

And as for Mike Hamilton... he is a just a tool.
 
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Will Kiffin get suspended on purpose in order to protect and enhance the street cred Lil Wayne gave him?
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Will Kiffin get suspended on purpose in order to protect and enhance the street cred Lil Wayne gave him?
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Seems like every time Redding or sports writers refer to the complaints, they always say "conspiracy" is what every one is saying that went on. It's not a conspiracy, but rather preferential treatment to the highly ranked schools. I don't think anyone is stupid enough to believe that all the refs got together and "planned" to call the fouls. I heard on a local radio program yesterday an interview with Redding and the question was asked what was said between Bobby Johnson and the refs and he would NOT tell what was said. He only said that it was confidential. I guess it was a military secret or something. I personally think this has gotten way out of hand with all the secrecy.
 
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Who will pay the fines?
Who determines how much?
Who determines whether a fine or suspension is needed?
Did they write a new rule or are they just going to be subjective?

Sounds like crap all the way around.
 
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Everyone call Hamilton's office and ask for a statement on this rule. Did he support it and why, when we know it will only be enforced against ONE particular coach?
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Will Kiffin get suspended on purpose in order to protect and enhance the street cred Lil Wayne gave him?
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I expected some reactions like the face palms, but it was partly a joke and partly a serious question. Slive has threatened him, and his bosses have sided with Slive. If he doesn't defy them now, Lil Lane's street cred the takes a big hit. Like CEO says, they aren't aiming to recruit angels.
 
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Since this is a public institution, I think there is actually a potential first amendment violation here. The SEC cannot suspend a state employee, UT would have to do it. All the SEC can do is levy action against the program. Kiffin's speech is protected as a state employee of a higher ed institution.
 
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If i am not mistaken it could also be called the Petrino (since he was technically the first), Mullen, Kiffin and johnson rule...
 
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Just as there is no perfectly played or coached game, there is never a perfectly officiated game. Players make mistakes, coaches call the wrong play, and officials miss calls. If perfection is the standard, fans and coaches are going to live a disappointed life.

But, the real world is supervisors review every game, grade every official, and make employment decisions based on performance. Just as one great call doesn't make one a great official; one bad call doesn't make one a bad official. Redding, the supervisor of SEC officiating, will grade that crew on their collective body of work. He may break up the crew, he may fire some of the crew and he may not. At the end of the day he's the only one that's qualified to make those decisions.

There are plenty of unethical members of the media out there who will carelessy or even intentionally exploit every opportunity to damage the image of various SEC coaches, SEC schools and the SEC as a whole. That's why the SEC needs a near zero tolerance policy for AD personnel, coaches, players, etc. criticizing officials and fellow coaches in the media. Slive's suggested change to stiffen the penalties for doing so was an excellent move and that's why it was unanimously approved by the ADs and university presidents.

Quality officiating is very important in protecting the huge financial stakes every SEC school, president, AD and coach has riding on the quality and image of SEC sports. Arguments that it is necessary for any of those parties to make criticism noise in the media in order to achieve improvements in the quality of SEC officiating are ridiculously invalid.

Criticism by SEC coaches of officiating or other SEC coaches is what it is -- whiny childish behavior.
 
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Vol-ler_Baller said:
Of course they are going to agree, they're getting $17.5 million a year for the next 15 years from the Slive negotiated media contracts which let them and other SEC ADs pay a pot load for coaches like LK.

And as for Mike Hamilton... he just knows which side his bread is buttered on.
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FYP a lot.
 
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cibai said:
Since this is a public institution, I think there is actually a potential first amendment violation here. The SEC cannot suspend a state employee, UT would have to do it. All the SEC can do is levy action against the program. Kiffin's speech is protected as a state employee of a higher ed institution.
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Not sure what lawbook you are reading from.

The SEC is not looking to restrict Kiffin's freedom of speech, they are just making sure that he follows the rules.

Firing someone for speaking out publicly against company policy is not a first amendment violation. Employees can't say whatever they want in their workplace without repercussion.

If someone tried to throw Kiffin in jail for his statements, that would be a first amendment violation.
 
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miraclemax said:
Not sure what lawbook you are reading from.

The SEC is not looking to restrict Kiffin's freedom of speech, they are just making sure that he follows the rules.

Firing someone for speaking out publicly against company policy is not a first amendment violation. Employees can't say whatever they want in their workplace without repercussion.

If someone tried to throw Kiffin in jail for his statements, that would be a first amendment violation.
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Sure, if you work for a private company. Kiffin works for the guberment. The first amendment applies to government restrictions on free speech. The SEC and the NCAA are not state run, nor is Kiffin an employee of the NCAA or the SEC. He is an employee of UT, and as such has the same free speech rights as faculty at the college. The SEC technically has no power to suspend a state employee. If Kiffin were to be suspended, it would have to be because UT did so at the SEC's request. However, UT cannot suspend Kiffin simply because he spoke out against what he perceived to be unjust officiating. The catch is if it is in his contract to be subject to SEC rules, which is very possible. Heck, I may be all wrong about this, but I don't think so.
 
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