The hail mary pass

[Big Orange Captain]

This game shows that our talent level has increased to the point that we can play a lousy game on the road against a decent team and win. Last year we would have lost this game possibly by several scores.

Is Miss St decent? Haven’t won a conference game in two plus years. Was lucky as hell to beat Arizona State. I think A&M will roll over them this weekend.

 

[Legion of Doom]

That would have been a disaster for sure lol.

 

[Pride85]

Easily. The one he threw to Brazzell was over 50. Watching live it looked like it slipped from his hand a bit. I didn't even bother reading the other ridiculous thread regarding arm strength. He has plenty.

The almost disaster was setup by poor clock management by Heup - both halves.

I disagree with your statement about the time management, at least half way.. FIrst half, no explanations for why no timeouts were used to try and get the ball with some time. The end of regulation was a different story. He actually had a plan and when you look at the picture below, a pretty good one. On the play before the one shown below, they had called a timeout and ran the ball up the middle to get the first down. Everyone expected them to call the final timeout, but he did not. It would appear that he had two plays called in the timeout and was trying to take advantage of a very tired MSU defense. And he did, but for some reason, Joey Aguilar made one of the very few bad decisions of the game. Look at the picture below and you will see 9 seconds on the clock and a wide open Deshean Bishop right along the sideline with NO defenders even in the picture. If the green line is truly what they needed to be within the kickers range, there is a very good chance DB could have covered that distance and get out of bounds, or if not, they still had a timeout to use if he was stopped.

 

[volfan102455]

I hear there may be some openings for coaches at Arkansas and UCLA - maybe some of you should apply.

 

[UT97Vol]

I disagree with your statement about the time management, at least half way.. FIrst half, no explanations for why no timeouts were used to try and get the ball with some time. The end of regulation was a different story. He actually had a plan and when you look at the picture below, a pretty good one. On the play before the one shown below, they had called a timeout and ran the ball up the middle to get the first down. Everyone expected them to call the final timeout, but he did not. It would appear that he had two plays called in the timeout and was trying to take advantage of a very tired MSU defense. And he did, but for some reason, Joey Aguilar made one of the very few bad decisions of the game. Look at the picture below and you will see 9 seconds on the clock and a wide open Deshean Bishop right along the sideline with NO defenders even in the picture. If the green line is truly what they needed to be within the kickers range, there is a very good chance DB could have covered that distance and get out of bounds, or if not, they still had a timeout to use if he was stopped.
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What your image doesn't show is #13 for Miss St was lurking just off the screen and immediately broke down on Bishop before Joey started to scramble as soon as Joey locked eyes on Bishop. Which is likely why he didn't throw it there because he did see Bishop. But my point is there was no excuse for there only being nine seconds left at that point in the first place. I don't even mind the run call on the first play of the drive to burn a little clock (given MSU had all three timeouts) but they burned more than 30 seconds after the first play of the drive and took it all the way down to 45 seconds. As for the above sequence you referenced the run play was fine to get the first down with 18 seconds left, but poor management left zero margin for error. And I don't know what you mean by final timeout. We still had two timeouts left at this point.

We started the drive at 1:23. Play one was a short run. I would have bled the clock down to under one minute to hedge against not getting a first down but not to 45 seconds. That's where we lost the opportunity. Again, I get the conservative approach early, but IMO they burned too much. Even just an extra 5-10 seconds would have been useful once they got to midfield.

And now I'm going to offer one more mistake on the final play. Miss State put everyone down near the endzone. We only needed 8 yards to get to long FG range for Gilbert. With no defense on the receivers, we easily could have run a 10-12 yard route and step out of bounds. It would take 2 seconds. Go watch is again Receivers at 35 with 3 seconds left. Easily could have completed an uncontested pass and stepped out with 1 or 2 seconds left. Hail mary was a bad call.

 

[TrueOrange]

All of our athletes were in the end zone… it would’ve been up to our lineman and Joey to stop him.

Still a fair chance nothing comes of it, given at that point it’s 1 person (at best 2) against 6 other people waiting for him downfield.

 

[Pride85]

What your image doesn't show is #13 for Miss St was lurking just off the screen and immediately broke down on Bishop before Joey started to scramble as soon as Joey locked eyes on Bishop. Which is likely why he didn't throw it there because he did see Bishop. But my point is there was no excuse for there only being nine seconds left at that point in the first place. I don't even mind the run call on the first play of the drive to burn a little clock (given MSU had all three timeouts) but they burned more than 30 seconds after the first play of the drive and took it all the way down to 45 seconds. As for the above sequence you referenced the run play was fine to get the first down with 18 seconds left, but poor management left zero margin for error. And I don't know what you mean by final timeout. We still had two timeouts left at this point.

We started the drive at 1:23. Play one was a short run. I would have bled the clock down to under one minute to hedge against not getting a first down but not to 45 seconds. That's where we lost the opportunity. Again, I get the conservative approach early, but IMO they burned too much. Even just an extra 5-10 seconds would have been useful once they got to midfield.

And now I'm going to offer one more mistake on the final play. Miss State put everyone down near the endzone. We only needed 8 yards to get to long FG range for Gilbert. With no defense on the receivers, we easily could have run a 10-12 yard route and step out of bounds. It would take 2 seconds. Go watch is again Receivers at 35 with 3 seconds left. Easily could have completed an uncontested pass and stepped out with 1 or 2 seconds left. Hail mary was a bad call.

Remember this, the play on 2nd and 1 was a post pattern that was open, but slightly underthrown and slapped away by the DB. I will still say there was more than enough time for Bishop to pick up the 11 yards to at least attempt the field goal. Our DB can take on a single DB and get to the sideline when given a 20-yard head start. CLH tried the dagger to the heart throw but had an actual plan when that did not work out. It was not clock management. They were playing deep to prevent getting beat over the top. You gotta play what the D gives you.

 

[ftsandersvol]

He was in a full run and didn’t get his full momentum behind the throw.