The Feeling Phil Question

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Mark my words:

Jeremy Pruitt is just waiting for the right moment to drop a MOAB press release about how he was told to "turn this ship around, any way you have to do it" by Fulmer.

This will complete the 25 year plan that Alabama has had in place to destroy Fulmer/Tennessee after what he started and alleged of them in the 90's.

Think I'm wrong? Ask any diehard Bama fan over the age of 60.

On the up side for Tennessee....this will put the final nail in the 20 yr. coffin of *%$! athletics at UT by a bunch of idiots who long ago deserved to be shown the door! Just my humble opinion......
 
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I dont know anyone who would trust anything that Pruitt may come out to say at a press conference. It will all sound like he is trying to protect his immoral image. Fulmer probably knew about it, he probably endorsed it, but if there is no paper/email/receipt trail that leads to him, then it is all hearsay. This too shall pass!
 
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VolunteerCeltic said:
I dont know anyone who can trust anything that Pruitt may come out to say at a press conference. It will all sound like he is trying to protect his immoral image. Fulmer probably knew about it, he probably endorsed it, but if there is no paper/email/receipt trail that leads to him, then it is all hearsay. This too shall pass!
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Totally agree - I bet every AD in the country tells his cash cow sports coaches "Do this, but make sure there are no paper trails back to this office".

In the end it will all come down to Pruitt saying this is what happened and I was told to do that by the administration and the administration simply saying show us the paper where we directed you to do so...
 
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Sam I Am said:
Mark my words:

Jeremy Pruitt is just waiting for the right moment to drop a MOAB press release about how he was told to "turn this ship around, any way you have to do it" by Fulmer.

This will complete the 25 year plan that Alabama has had in place to destroy Fulmer/Tennessee after what he started and alleged of them in the 90's.

Think I'm wrong? Ask any diehard Bama fan over the age of 60.

On the up side for Tennessee....this will put the final nail in the 20 yr. coffin of *%$! athletics at UT by a bunch of idiots who long ago deserved to be shown the door! Just my humble opinion......
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It would be in Pruitt’s best interest not to do that…
 
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tnutater said:
I suspect it goes on at every major program.
To think fat fill did not do the same as HC is hard for me to believe.
A goodie 2 shoes snitch caused the issue.
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Fulmer may have skirted the rules, don't know for sure. But, as an assistant coach for 11-12 years, he was never involved in any kind of investigation, and as the head coach for 16 years, UT was never accused of anything or any investigation. And "goodie 2 shoes" was trying to protect the state of Tennessee's recruiting grounds. Alabama was blatantly cheating and Logan Young was openly bragging about it. Albert Means wasn't the only one, either. The linebacker out of Mississippi was a UT lock until signing day, then Bama swooped in and bought him. The running back, forgot his name as well, from of I think, Pearl Cohn out of Nashville, they bought him as well. And remember, there were 5-6 other coaches, Spurrier being one of them, that were openly complaining about Bama's cheating.

As far as the article the OP linked, Adams is a POS. He must have writer's block, because the article comes off as comedic nonsense. It's really idiotic and juvenile to refer to our Hall Fame Coach with a 152-52 record as "fat fill."
 
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Of course he knew we were cheating. He just may not have known we were cheating so obviously and stupidly. Pruitt got used to getting away with more with far less scrutiny in Bama. Tennessee compliance tells you don’t cheat, Bama compliance asks you how they can help you cheat better.
 
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Alabama cheated--and blatantly--for decades. They should have got the death penalty for the Logan Young scandal for Lack of Institutional Control--seriously. Bama athletic director Mal Moore was a longtime friend of Young's and was aware that Young was paying coaches and players. The NCAA meted out serious penalties but didn't have the guts to kill bama's program, as it should have. Imagine if the NCAA had killed bama's program as it did SMU's--what a massive deterent message that would have been. Fulmer was foolish to hire a bama coach in the first place--and not just a "bama coach" but a dyed-in-the-wool bama man who would have known how to cheat.

Given that fact, the first thing Fulmer could have done before hiring him is read him the riot act about cheating--don't do it. We don't know if he did that, but if he did, he didn't convey the message strongly enough. I strongly suspect that after hiring Pruitt--his man--Fulmer simply decided to stay clear of any NCAA rules/no cheating chats with Pruitt. As Adams notes, Fulmer and Pruitt were desperate to win--and desperation leads to cheating. Fulmer was a disastrous AD, and I won't remind fans of the idiocy that sparked this debacle in the first place.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
Fulmer may have skirted the rules, don't know for sure. But, as an assistant coach for 11-12 years, he was never involved in any kind of investigation, and as the head coach for 16 years, UT was never accused of anything or any investigation. And "goodie 2 shoes" was trying to protect the state of Tennessee's recruiting grounds. Alabama was blatantly cheating and Logan Young was openly bragging about it. Albert Means wasn't the only one, either. The linebacker out of Mississippi was a UT lock until signing day, then Bama swooped in and bought him. The running back, forgot his name as well, from of I think, Pearl Cohn out of Nashville, they bought him as well. And remember, there were 5-6 other coaches, Spurrier being one of them, that were openly complaining about Bama's cheating.

As far as the article the OP linked, Adams is a POS. He must have writer's block, because the article comes off as comedic nonsense. It's really idiotic and juvenile to refer to our Hall Fame Coach with a 152-52 record as "fat fill."
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I work with a guy that played OL for Bama in the 80's. He has told me on multiple occasions that he would go to his mailbox at Bama and there would be an envelope with cash in it. He said he never asked where the money came from, he just spent it.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
Fulmer may have skirted the rules, don't know for sure. But, as an assistant coach for 11-12 years, he was never involved in any kind of investigation, and as the head coach for 16 years, UT was never accused of anything or any investigation. And "goodie 2 shoes" was trying to protect the state of Tennessee's recruiting grounds. Alabama was blatantly cheating and Logan Young was openly bragging about it. Albert Means wasn't the only one, either. The linebacker out of Mississippi was a UT lock until signing day, then Bama swooped in and bought him. The running back, forgot his name as well, from of I think, Pearl Cohn out of Nashville, they bought him as well. And remember, there were 5-6 other coaches, Spurrier being one of them, that were openly complaining about Bama's cheating.

As far as the article the OP linked, Adams is a POS. He must have writer's block, because the article comes off as comedic nonsense. It's really idiotic and juvenile to refer to our Hall Fame Coach with a 152-52 record as "fat fill."
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Get off fat fill's jock.
He was fired as HC.
In the chaos of the moment, he wormed his way in as AD.
Then hired Alabama's known bag man.
Shown the door again.
He deserves no respect from any Vol fan.
Certainly no admiration.
 
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tnutater said:
Get off fat fill's jock.
He was fired as HC.
In the chaos of the moment, he wormed his way in as AD.
Then hired Alabama's known bag man.
Shown the door again.
He deserves no respect from any Vol fan.
Certainly no admiration.
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Don't know anything about Phil's jock; find it disturbing and weird that you do. But hey, you continue to do what you do.

Don't know if anybody knew, before Pruitt was hired by UT, that he was a "known bag man." Care to share how you came to that conclusion, or just some of your bull$hit?
 
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It would seem to me he knew about some of it or he's a damn fool.
I suppose he could have been all consumed counting his $$$ and buying new boats etc....
Pick one.
 
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tnutater said:
Get off fat fill's jock.
He was fired as HC.
In the chaos of the moment, he wormed his way in as AD.
Then hired Alabama's known bag man.
Shown the door again.
He deserves no respect from any Vol fan.
Certainly no admiration.
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If you dont respect the guy that brought in UT Football's most famous alum and followed that up by winning our first NC in 50 years...You may have some issues.

Was he perfect? Of course not. However, the run we went on with him at the helm is remarkable and definitely deserves some respect, Especially after what has followed him to this point.
 
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Sam I Am said:
Mark my words:

Jeremy Pruitt is just waiting for the right moment to drop a MOAB press release about how he was told to "turn this ship around, any way you have to do it" by Fulmer.

This will complete the 25 year plan that Alabama has had in place to destroy Fulmer/Tennessee after what he started and alleged of them in the 90's.

Think I'm wrong? Ask any diehard Bama fan over the age of 60.

On the up side for Tennessee....this will put the final nail in the 20 yr. coffin of *%$! athletics at UT by a bunch of idiots who long ago deserved to be shown the door! Just my humble opinion......
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This is what we call an overactive imagination.
 
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Zues1 said:
It would seem to me he knew about some of it or he's a damn fool.
I suppose he could have been all consumed counting his $$$ and buying new boats etc....
Pick one.
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So you think Boyd and Plowman went all in for a big coverup for CPF after going through all the info dug up by the investigation. They never backed away from their position even after the NCAA did their digging which ended up with them being lauded for their methods and efforts after discovery of the issues. Why would they put their credibility, if not their jobs in jeopardy? Not buying that for a minute. They could have doubled down and saved his buyout on top of Pruitt's. You better bet CPF was squeaky clean. IF IF IF the sourcing of the money was internal and covered up by creative bookkeeping you will have the story. What I have never heard is did CPF get the hot tip and pass it up stream or did his bosses get it and challenge him with the info. I hope the sunshine laws make that info available.
 
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tnutater said:
Get off fat fill's jock.
He was fired as HC.
In the chaos of the moment, he wormed his way in as AD.
Then hired Alabama's known bag man.
Shown the door again.
He deserves no respect from any Vol fan.
Certainly no admiration.
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This is how anyone who calls him "Fat Fill" looks.
 
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tnutater said:
Get off fat fill's jock.
He was fired as HC.
In the chaos of the moment, he wormed his way in as AD.
Then hired Alabama's known bag man.
Shown the door again.
He deserves no respect from any Vol fan.
Certainly no admiration.
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A truly insane take.

No respect? Are you f***ing kidding me?

HE WON A NATIONAL TITLE HERE

He becomes AD for three years and hired a garbage coach so that means everything he's ever done for UT football goes out the window?
 
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Sam I Am said:
Mark my words:

Jeremy Pruitt is just waiting for the right moment to drop a MOAB press release about how he was told to "turn this ship around, any way you have to do it" by Fulmer.

This will complete the 25 year plan that Alabama has had in place to destroy Fulmer/Tennessee after what he started and alleged of them in the 90's.

Think I'm wrong? Ask any diehard Bama fan over the age of 60.

On the up side for Tennessee....this will put the final nail in the 20 yr. coffin of *%$! athletics at UT by a bunch of idiots who long ago deserved to be shown the door! Just my humble opinion......
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Press release will be incomprehensible, riddled with spelling errors and any mention of Phil will be spelled with an F.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
Yes, exactly. If I've forgotten an incident, please inform.
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Phil was on staff in 1991 when the NCAA issues occurred that brought on the whole Jack Sells/Kinkos episode.

There were a number of minor infractions during Fulmer's tenure as head coach. I remember Nilo Silvan being held out for a couple of games for some issue as well as a number of other players while Fulmer was HC. I also remember a violation where recruits were given fake ticket stubs with their image on them and had some of their high school highlights shown on the jumbotron while at Neyland on recruiting visits. With all the inane NCAA rules, it's impossible to not have violations

Phil also personally committed an NCAA violation while AD when he coached players during a practice.

I guess I'm a Fulmer hater now.
 
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