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I believe that the problems with this team began in spring practice..

Coach Clapper decided that the quarterback of the future (Jimmy Clausen) was more important than the quarterback of the present (Eric Ainge).

By including a non-SEC caliber QB in the mix - Rick Clausen - he placated to the Clausen family - played politics - and ruined the emerging Ainge's confidence. After seeing his only competition leave the team - Ainge was poised to walk into the starting position. Insert weak southpaw Rick and you have a damaging blow to Ainge's confidence.

Knowing that at any moment he would be yanked out the game by his facemask would make any kid make mistakes.

Couple this with the total lack of discipline on this team - and we have a recipe for a 4-7 season - yes 4-7 - Kentucky will beat us next weekend - you wait and see.

Did anybody see what our kids looked like getting off the bus in South Bend - they looked (and continue to look like) a bunch of pimps going to the club. On the other hand - Charlie Weis's team shows up wearing matching blazers - no earrings - no mp3 players -

The Clapper even allows players to wear earrings under the helments. It is all about individuality at Gibbs Hall. No wonder players think they can spit on cameramen and toss helments on the field. No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.

The Clapper should remove names off the jerseys starting this weekend and not put them back until he puts on another SEC championship ring. Moreover - take the power T off the helments at least for this game.

That's all I have to say about that.
 
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If Ainge is that weak that competition caused this, then he wasn't good enough to begin with.

BTW, RC outplayed him every step of the way.

The problem with Ainge is Ainge. He had every opportunity to take over and didn't take it.

 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 20, 2005 2:51 PM
I believe that the problems with this team began in spring practice.. 

Coach Clapper decided that the quarterback of the future (Jimmy Clausen) was more important than the quarterback of the present (Eric Ainge).

By including a non-SEC caliber QB in the mix - Rick Clausen - he placated to the Clausen family - played politics - and ruined the emerging Ainge's confidence.  After seeing his only competition leave the team - Ainge was poised to walk into the starting position.  Insert weak southpaw Rick and you have a damaging blow to Ainge's confidence. 

Knowing that at any moment he would be yanked out the game by his facemask would make any kid make mistakes.

Couple this with the total lack of discipline on this team - and we have a recipe for a 4-7 season - yes 4-7 - Kentucky will beat us next weekend - you wait and see.

Did anybody see what our kids looked like getting off the bus in South Bend - they looked (and continue to look like) a bunch of pimps going to the club.  On the other hand - Charlie Weis's team shows up wearing matching blazers - no earrings - no mp3 players -

The Clapper even allows players to wear earrings under the helments.  It is all about individuality at Gibbs Hall.  No wonder players think they can spit on cameramen and toss helments on the field.  No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.

The Clapper should remove names off the jerseys starting this weekend and not put them back until he puts on another SEC championship ring.  Moreover - take the power T off the helments at least for this game.

That's all I have to say about that.
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hell of a post new guy. stick around here. u got a strangle hold on the situation. i 100% agree with everything except the jersey and helmet comment. good job. discipline needs to be Fulmer's first priority.
 
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Originally posted by Liper@Nov 20, 2005 3:16 PM
If Ainge is that weak that competition caused this, then he wasn't good enough to begin with.

BTW, RC outplayed him every step of the way.

The problem with Ainge is Ainge.  He had every opportunity to take over and didn't take it.
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:clapping: :thumbsup:
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 20, 2005 2:51 PM
I believe that the problems with this team began in spring practice.. 

Coach Clapper decided that the quarterback of the future (Jimmy Clausen) was more important than the quarterback of the present (Eric Ainge).

By including a non-SEC caliber QB in the mix - Rick Clausen - he placated to the Clausen family - played politics - and ruined the emerging Ainge's confidence.  After seeing his only competition leave the team - Ainge was poised to walk into the starting position.  Insert weak southpaw Rick and you have a damaging blow to Ainge's confidence. 

Knowing that at any moment he would be yanked out the game by his facemask would make any kid make mistakes.

Couple this with the total lack of discipline on this team - and we have a recipe for a 4-7 season - yes 4-7 - Kentucky will beat us next weekend - you wait and see.

Did anybody see what our kids looked like getting off the bus in South Bend - they looked (and continue to look like) a bunch of pimps going to the club.  On the other hand - Charlie Weis's team shows up wearing matching blazers - no earrings - no mp3 players -

The Clapper even allows players to wear earrings under the helments.  It is all about individuality at Gibbs Hall.  No wonder players think they can spit on cameramen and toss helments on the field.  No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.

The Clapper should remove names off the jerseys starting this weekend and not put them back until he puts on another SEC championship ring.  Moreover - take the power T off the helments at least for this game.

That's all I have to say about that.
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Great Post, couldnt have said it better myself and welcome to volnation
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 20, 2005 3:51 PM
I believe that the problems with this team began in spring practice.. 

Coach Clapper decided that the quarterback of the future (Jimmy Clausen) was more important than the quarterback of the present (Eric Ainge).

By including a non-SEC caliber QB in the mix - Rick Clausen - he placated to the Clausen family - played politics - and ruined the emerging Ainge's confidence.  After seeing his only competition leave the team - Ainge was poised to walk into the starting position.  Insert weak southpaw Rick and you have a damaging blow to Ainge's confidence. 

Knowing that at any moment he would be yanked out the game by his facemask would make any kid make mistakes.

Couple this with the total lack of discipline on this team - and we have a recipe for a 4-7 season - yes 4-7 - Kentucky will beat us next weekend - you wait and see.

Did anybody see what our kids looked like getting off the bus in South Bend - they looked (and continue to look like) a bunch of pimps going to the club.  On the other hand - Charlie Weis's team shows up wearing matching blazers - no earrings - no mp3 players -

The Clapper even allows players to wear earrings under the helments.  It is all about individuality at Gibbs Hall.  No wonder players think they can spit on cameramen and toss helments on the field.  No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.

The Clapper should remove names off the jerseys starting this weekend and not put them back until he puts on another SEC championship ring.  Moreover - take the power T off the helments at least for this game.

That's all I have to say about that.
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I agree, no names on jerseys.
 
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Didn't RC have a higher completion % by a substantial amount in spring practice??? EA didn't deserve to start even before the season started, but he got the shot anyway, so I don't see how that's placating the Clausen family.

Lots of mistakes this year, but it seems that the team would have been saying "what the....?" when starting Ainge instead of RC at the beginning of the season.

If Ainge's psyche is so fragile that he can't understand being benched when he sucks, who needs him? If he can't handle being benched, then what's going to happen to his psyche when a strong D starts laying the smack down on him?

Ainge has been given more than ample opportunity to earn the starting job and soilidify his present and future with the team. In fact, he's been given the starting job even when he didn't deserve it. RC's not the savior, but at least he can handle a little pressure and not fall to pieces when things don't go his way. I'll bet 99% of the people who were in his position would have left TN a long time ago.

Eli Manning did the right thing by not choosing TN. He'd never win the public relations war, and neither would the coaching staff every time something went wrong. I hope all the other "little brothers" follow Eli's lead so we don't have to deal with anymore family crap... it's too much baggage.
 
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Originally posted by hitandrun@Nov 20, 2005 4:52 PM
Didn't RC have a higher completion % by a substantial amount in spring practice???  EA didn't deserve to start even before the season started, but he got the shot anyway, so I don't see how that's placating the Clausen family.

Lots of mistakes this year, but it seems that the team would have been saying "what the....?" when starting Ainge instead of RC at the beginning of the season. 

If Ainge's psyche is so fragile that he can't understand being benched when he sucks, who needs him?  If he can't handle being benched, then what's going to happen to his psyche when a strong D starts laying the smack down on him?

Ainge has been given more than ample opportunity to earn the starting job and soilidify his present and future with the team.  In fact, he's been given the starting job even when he didn't deserve it.  RC's not the savior, but at least he can handle a little pressure and not fall to pieces when things don't go his way.  I'll bet 99% of the people who were in his position would have left TN a long time ago.

Eli Manning did the right thing by not choosing TN.  He'd never win the public relations war, and neither would the coaching staff every time something went wrong.  I hope all the other "little brothers" follow Eli's lead so we don't have to deal with anymore family crap... it's too much baggage.
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they both arent very good, plus our wrs are lazy. and most of the rest of the team are self centered trouble makers.

one word: DISCIPLINE.
 
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I agree with the discipline issue.

The stuff about Clausen and Ainge is BS. Ainge was given every opportunity - he has been outplayed since Spring but still was inserted into game after game. If a non-SEC QB played better than him then that's Ainge's problem.

BTW, Ainge ranks about 7th or 8th in SEC QB's. If he's not SEC-caliber, then at least 4 other teams are playing non SEC-caliber QB's.
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 20, 2005 2:51 PM
I believe that the problems with this team began in spring practice.. 

Coach Clapper decided that the quarterback of the future (Jimmy Clausen) was more important than the quarterback of the present (Eric Ainge).

By including a non-SEC caliber QB in the mix - Rick Clausen - he placated to the Clausen family - played politics - and ruined the emerging Ainge's confidence.  After seeing his only competition leave the team - Ainge was poised to walk into the starting position.  Insert weak southpaw Rick and you have a damaging blow to Ainge's confidence. 

Knowing that at any moment he would be yanked out the game by his facemask would make any kid make mistakes.

Couple this with the total lack of discipline on this team - and we have a recipe for a 4-7 season - yes 4-7 - Kentucky will beat us next weekend - you wait and see.

Did anybody see what our kids looked like getting off the bus in South Bend - they looked (and continue to look like) a bunch of pimps going to the club.  On the other hand - Charlie Weis's team shows up wearing matching blazers - no earrings - no mp3 players -

The Clapper even allows players to wear earrings under the helments.  It is all about individuality at Gibbs Hall.  No wonder players think they can spit on cameramen and toss helments on the field.  No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.

The Clapper should remove names off the jerseys starting this weekend and not put them back until he puts on another SEC championship ring.  Moreover - take the power T off the helments at least for this game.

That's all I have to say about that.
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The problem with the theory is that CPF was the only one that kept Ainge in the mix. Liper made the call. Ainge had plenty of opportunity. CPF wanted Ainge all along. Please keep in mind that I do agree Ainge should have gotten all the reps, but he could have earned those by distinguishing himself. I am hopeful this is the last Clausen to ever step foot on UT's campus.

CPF's biggest mistake was allowing the splitting of reps divide the team. Lets just hope they don't repeat this mistake again.
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 20, 2005 2:51 PM

Did anybody see what our kids looked like getting off the bus in South Bend - they looked (and continue to look like) a bunch of pimps going to the club.  On the other hand - Charlie Weis's team shows up wearing matching blazers - no earrings - no mp3 players -

The Clapper even allows players to wear earrings under the helments.  It is all about individuality at Gibbs Hall.  No wonder players think they can spit on cameramen and toss helments on the field.  No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.

The Clapper should remove names off the jerseys starting this weekend and not put them back until he puts on another SEC championship ring.  Moreover - take the power T off the helments at least for this game.

That's all I have to say about that.
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A very good point about individuality. That is where the problem lies with this team: individuality. They are a bunch of individuals out on the field and many of them could care less about the team concept. I always asked my players where is the letter "I" in the word "TEAM"? This team is a perfect example of how are society has developed in the last 30 or 40 years. Once upon a time, people cared more for one another and would be respectful and courteous to one another. These days, it is about "ME" and what "I" can do to get ahead at the expense of others. I'm not preaching here but this is one of the things I have noticed about the team.
 
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Originally posted by secfanclub@Nov 20, 2005 6:16 PM
A very good point about individuality.  That is where the problem lies with this team: individuality.  They are a bunch of individuals out on the field and many of them could care less about the team concept.  I always asked my players where is the letter "I" in the word "TEAM"?  This team is a perfect example of how are society has developed in the last 30 or 40 years.  Once upon a time, people cared more for one another and would be respectful and courteous to one another.  These days, it is about "ME" and what "I" can do to get ahead at the expense of others.  I'm not preaching here but this is one of the things I have noticed about the team.
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Especially at the skill positions. They certainly seem to play by a different set of rules than anyone else on the team. The defense always manages to play cohesively.
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 20, 2005 2:51 PM
The Clapper even allows players to wear earrings under the helments.  It is all about individuality at Gibbs Hall.  No wonder players think they can spit on cameramen and toss helments on the field.  No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.
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I had an earring once and I went crazy. Before I went to church every Sunday, respected people, was easy to get along with, gave to charity, I was just a great human being and a pleasure to be around. After I got my ear pierced, everything went to hell in a handbasket. I found myself hanging out in opium dens, mugging people on the street, taking grocery bags from old ladies walking down the sidewalks, I kicked a dog....you get the point. Those earrings should definitely come out man. They're bad, REAL BAD.

Don't even get me started on those mp3 players...

Welcome to the board.. :hi:
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 20, 2005 6:25 PM
I had an earring once and I went crazy.  Before I went to church every Sunday, respected people, was easy to get along with, gave to charity, I was just a great human being and a pleasure to be around.  After I got my ear pierced, everything went to hell in a handbasket.  I found myself hanging out in opium dens, mugging people on the street, taking grocery bags from old ladies walking down the sidewalks, I kicked a dog....you get the point.  Those earrings should definitely come out man.  They're bad, REAL BAD. 

Don't even get me started on those mp3 players...

Welcome to the board.. :hi:
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Game. Set. Match. :lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove:
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Nov 20, 2005 6:28 PM
Game. Set. Match.  :lolabove:  :lolabove:  :lolabove:
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It's not the earrings per ce - it is the fact that the player thinks he can look different or standout from his teammates - I had both ears pierced in high school - but when I stepped between the lines - I took them out because I did not want to draw attention to myself.

Our players look like they are dressing to go out clubbing during the vol walk - the university should buy them all orange blazers with the power T on the pocket.

 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 20, 2005 8:55 PM
I had an earring once and I went crazy.  Before I went to church every Sunday, respected people, was easy to get along with, gave to charity, I was just a great human being and a pleasure to be around.  After I got my ear pierced, everything went to hell in a handbasket.  I found myself hanging out in opium dens, mugging people on the street, taking grocery bags from old ladies walking down the sidewalks, I kicked a dog....you get the point.  Those earrings should definitely come out man.  They're bad, REAL BAD. 

Don't even get me started on those mp3 players...

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Depends on where you put the earring, where's yours? Or is it really an "ear"ring? :p

I wonder about the evility of toe rings, wonder where on the Satanic scale they come in?

Let's not even discuss the true reason for the downfall of UT this season....the genitalia tattoo. :devilsmoke:
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 20, 2005 5:21 PM
<snipped opinion not fact>

Knowing that at any moment he would be yanked out the game by his facemask would make any kid make mistakes.

...total lack of discipline on this team
No wonder they decide that punching other students in pickup basektball games is acceptable.

<snipped ridiculous BS>

That&#39;s all I have to say about that.
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Above is all I could find that I could possibly agree with but your semi-racist, right wing overtoned post will find comfort on this board, guaranteed. :moon2:
 
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Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 20, 2005 7:25 PM
they both arent very good, plus our wrs are lazy.
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Did you notice how they shuffled their feet when they said "Thank you Massuh?"

Positive sign of laziness. :blink:
 
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 21, 2005 11:32 AM
Above is all I could find that I could possibly agree with but your semi-racist, right wing overtoned post will find comfort on this board, guaranteed.  :moon2:
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I just happened to see this, but...

...what does "right wing" have to do with racism?
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 21, 2005 1:34 PM
It&#39;s not the earrings per ce - it is the fact that the player thinks he can look different or standout from his teammates - I had both ears pierced in high school - but when I stepped between the lines - I took them out because I did not want to draw attention to myself.
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It was the earring per se that you posted about, no qualifying statements, you just shot your mouth off about a piece of jewelry and attributed/linked certain character flaws with the wearing of one.

Now you&#39;re back peddling so fast, I hope you have rear view mirrors attached to your shoulders. :whistling:

 
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Originally posted by Liper@Nov 21, 2005 2:05 PM
I just happened to see this, but...

...what does "right wing" have to do with racism?
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Nothing. One can be any wing and racist.
 
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Originally posted by vol151@Nov 21, 2005 1:34 PM
Our players look like they are dressing to go out clubbing during the vol walk - the university should buy them all orange blazers with the power T on the pocket.
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I think that all Vol football players need to wear a uniform to class that is specifically designed by the Nuns Of The Holy Jesus Who Do Good Works, something with a fleur de lis all over it, black belt, navy blue pants, white button down shirt with fleur de lis tie, that sort of thing.

Whaddya think? :huh:
 
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A great quarterback doesnt worry about competition or being pulled. He handles it on the field and takes care of business. Now if we are excusing ainge for hurting his feelings becasue he got yanked then he should not be a division 1 qb.
 
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