The Beginning of the End for Dooley

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Johnny Majors' Ghost

Johnny Majors' Ghost

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IMO the 2010 LSU game. At the time it was considered a huge deal to lose that game but think of all the positive repurcussions a win wouldve brought to this program. Not only would it have been a signature win for Coach Dooley early in his career, but would have also boosted the confidence of future Tenn players in the belief that Dooley could get the job done. Apparently the lack of confidence in Dooley by the players has been the underlying problem with Dooley's tenure.
 
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Not talking so much in terms of the fans, just the players. To me, beating Kentucky wouldve been expected by fans and players and would not have done much to build player confidence in their leader. Beating a top 10 team on the road wouldve done much more.
 
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When the pattern started to pop-up of playing a team close in the first half only to get blown out in the second half. Sooooo mid-season 2010? Sounds about right
 
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the thing that gets me, is I think we had a better team then, and it wasn't his players, they was on there 3rd coach Even the recruits (freshmen) that year was in part to kiffin with all of the early enrollees. that could not leave. Now with his players that he coached for 3 years with more talent, are really soft.
 
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Actually that LSU game gave me a false sense of hope that he might be able to do something here. Last year is when that hope crashed and burned.
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Dooley's fate is not sealed. Dooley's fate is still in his own coaching hands. He's only one big win away from getting some positive momentum, after having to fight an uphill battle. I actually have to give him credit for holding things semi-togehter, and not quitting through all of the bad things that have happened to this team over the last 3 years. I do think he is running out of chances to get that big win. This weekend is the perfect opportunity for him to do just that.
 
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We can nitpick the OP all we want. He makes a great statement that really, is hard to argue and what's the point. That LSU game would have quickly put FCDD on the map. I think it was a monumental swing from a rapidly emerging marriage to the road to disaster. Well done, OP.
 
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WooleyDooley2010 said:
IMO the 2010 LSU game. At the time it was considered a huge deal to lose that game but think of all the positive repurcussions a win wouldve brought to this program. Not only would it have been a signature win for Coach Dooley early in his career, but would have also boosted the confidence of future Tenn players in the belief that Dooley could get the job done. Apparently the lack of confidence in Dooley by the players has been the underlying problem with Dooley's tenure.
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I think the players are more prone to be affected by losses than they would if they knew their HC had a winning record coming in.

When they see misteps from the staff, such as letting the clock run down before half time, instead of using your remaining time outs to march downfield and go in with some momentum, they have to question whether or not there is any hope of winning these big games.
 
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Joe Vols said:
Dooley's fate is not sealed. Dooley's fate is still in his own coaching hands. He's only one big win away from getting some positive momentum, after having to fight an uphill battle. I actually have to give him credit for holding things semi-togehter, and not quitting through all of the bad things that have happened to this team over the last 3 years.
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What exactly has he held together?
We lost to one of the worst KY teams ever(and that's saying alot), without a true qb in the game. As I said earlier, the LSU game gave me false hope. It's also a damning indictment against him. We've gotten worse over the course of his tenure with "supposedly" better players.
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For me it was Florida this year. Yeah, I know where the gators are ranked right now but he had everything laid out for the taking. Gameday on campus, "experts" starting to talk the program up, and an electric crowd to support him and the team. Dooley was one step from crossing over from questioned to being considered legit. Instead, like always, he pissed it away.
 
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Hello Everyone this is my first post on here, I am tired of reading all this Derek Dooley is done stuff (while it may be true) we need to get behind this team and wait until something happens. I've read on here about how dooley is a 3* coach in a 5* league I kinda agree with that except I see dooley as a 3* that grows into a 5*. If we get rid of Dooley this year and lets say he goes to a school like UNLV or UTEP ( a lower school, Pick one I don't know) he will get better La Tech was his first School he did take them to a bowl once. Mark it down he will make a lower level school better and one day get a BCS level school again. Than we will wish we still had him. I support our coach and this team I do expect better and I think we still get 8 wins(bowl) but can some of this negativity stop please! :unsure:
 
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skelleher20 said:
Hello Everyone this is my first post on here, I am tired of reading all this Derek Dooley is done stuff (while it may be true) we need to get behind this team and wait until something happens. I've read on here about how dooley is a 3* coach in a 5* league I kinda agree with that except I see dooley as a 3* that grows into a 5*. If we get rid of Dooley this year and lets say he goes to a school like UNLV or UTEP ( a lower school, Pick one I don't know) he will get better La Tech was his first School he did take them to a bowl once. Mark it down he will make a lower level school better and one day get a BCS level school again. Than we will wish we still had him. I support our coach and this team I do expect better and I think we still get 8 wins(bowl) but can some of this negativity stop please! :unsure:
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While I don't agree with your opinion, I respect it. Tennessee is not a place for a coach to learn how to win. You better already have that down when you get here.
 
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Think this years KY team has out done last years team for one of the worst teams ever. Looks like them and the barn are going for who can win the lest amount of games in a season.
 
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Fans would have been even more confused with what to do had he won that LSU game.... A coach that beat a top LSU team and the same coach that lost to a Kentucky team for the first time in 25+ years...
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
While I don't agree with your opinion, I respect it. Tennessee is not a place for a coach to learn how to win. You better already have that down when you get here.
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I agree :good!: this is not the place to learn that is not what I was trying to say. What I am saying is he is a good coach and he will eventually figure it all out. I wish he had more experience when we hired him, because there is no denying he has made our program better. When our 2nd team comes in (most of them) I dont panic like i did 2 years ago. And while we are not challenging to win the SEC right now we are more competitive than the last few years with some exceptions. So to say he is not a good coach is inaccurate we just have a GOOD coach that hasn't figured it out yet.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
When they see misteps from the staff, such as letting the clock run down before half time, instead of using your remaining time outs to march downfield and go in with some momentum, they have to question whether or not there is any hope of winning these big games.
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Players should practice hard and play harder. Questioning whether they can win is STUPID. As most EVERY new thread on this board lately. How in the hell can a game against a national contender on the road fresh off two coaching changes be "the beginning of the end"? What about catching a ball that is put into your hands from 45 yards away? The clock was allowed to run out AFTER that blunder by Hunter. What do the players feel after they see repeated blunders by themselves? What do the players feel when they repeatedly blow coverages? These damn players need to make the plays they are supposed to make.
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
For me, it was when he was hired
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I had to put a lexan keyboard protector on my keyboard before I typed this to keep from puking on my keys, but ... I agree with that statement.

However, I'm sure it isn't for the same reason that you wrote it. Most of the folks on this site don't actually remember Bill Battle. When he replaced Dickey he was widely despised by the fan base. After all, he wasn't named Majors. He was the youngest head coach in football. He was from (gasp) 'Bama. There was a litany of reasons. The internet of that day was called a newspaper. The newspapers were filled with anti-Battle letters and comments. Moving vans were sent to his house. For Sale signs were placed in his yard. He was the anti-Christ. The venom and hatred took its toll and consequently recruiting fell off with all of the newspaper clippings put in recruits faces. It became a self-fulfilling prophesy and he was fired with the great savior, Majors, brought in to return the glory. The glory never quite showed up. Yet, all was forgiven and Majors enjoyed support of the fan base. A rare peek at the top of the SEC interwoven with a decade of mediocrity was sufficient as long as it was Majors in the saddle. UT is at the point again where the venom has forced a change.
 
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OrangeByBirth said:
I had to put a lexan keyboard protector on my keyboard before I typed this to keep from puking on my keys, but ... I agree with that statement.

However, I'm sure it isn't for the same reason that you wrote it.
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I don't blame Dooley. I actually give him credit for taking the job as I think he knew what he was getting into. I blame Mike Hamilton and the way he handled the situation.
 
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