The argument for giving a coach more time

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The key with those teams is that they had never enjoyed success like we have traditionally so there’s a longer leash and fans at those places were ok with mediocrity. I mean before Clemson’s run the past few years did we really consider them a traditional power? UK has never been relevant. We actually have expectations based on our past and when those expectations aren’t met then the team quits and fans start a rebellion. It’s not just as simple as sticking with the coach. If the coach loses his team and loses the fan base of our caliber then there’s no way he can survive.
 
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"The argument for giving a coach more time"
The threads just keep getting crazier and crazier...…………..butt ok I will play your silly game and answer....
1> How bout he has a contract (do we really need to be payin yet another Coach who we run off?0
2>Existing players are soft, not that good and are not even close to living up to their "stars"
3>THE process is going to take at least 4 years to get it back to some form of normal.

Butt, hey knowing the UT Fan Base he may not make it through the next 3 game debacle.....if they had their way.

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Gatornator said:
Proven coaches are hard to come by anywhere, especially at dumpster fire programs like UF and UT last year. I mean even Mullen who spent 9 years at MSU and won NC with Tebow as OC is not really that proven. He has a losing record in the SEC and poor record against ranked teams. We had to pay 6.1 million a year just to get him. We maybe in a similar camp by the end of this season, but the win in Neyland certainly helps his cause. Not expecting a win tomorrow at Starkville, but if he pulls it off, then he would have done something that Spurrier didn't do.

Now let us look at other "Proven coaches" and how they are doing. Frost: 0-3. Chip Kelly 0-3. Taggert is 2-2 and is an absolute joke. Harabaugh got beat by ND in his first game, and played 3 terrible teams after that, so I am not sure he is showing "significant success" there. At least you guys are winning your cupcakes I guess.

I think no matter what the hire is, you have to roll the dice. I just don't think Pruitt is the answer, mainly because of what I have seen from him so far, and mainly because we have grown so tired of trying to imitate Alabama and hiring coaches from the Saban tree with our last two busts. Saban is 13-0 against his former assistant coaches for a reason. Even Kirby is still unproven to me. With the talent he is getting, he should get a natty this year or next year. He seems to be chocking at the big stage.

Regardless, you guys are stuck with Pruitt for probably 3 years at least unless he commits some drastic error. So hold your horses and hope for the best.
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Yall keep trotting put Frost, Kelly and Taggart as if they were the only options...
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Yall keep trotting put Frost, Kelly and Taggart as if they were the only options...
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Don't hang around the Vol forums as much, but I have been through the $hit show of coach searches with other Gators around the same time. We had some delusional gators too, but don't know what the level of delusion here is. Would love to hear your list of other "proven coaches" that were available to hire realistically at UF or UT.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
How about hiring a proven coach in the first place.
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As much as we wanted a Big Time HC, the interest just isn’t there anymore.

Too much damage to the program has already been done which isn’t a very good selling point.
 
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UTK said:
How many proven coaches did we even reach out to? How many did we offer “serious about winning money” to? 8-10 million? People want to say no coach wanted to come here. I say we weren’t serious about getting a big big time coach. Currie had Schiano as his guy from day one, that’s widely known.
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Gundy was and Currie offered him a crap ton of money that would have made him the 2nd highest paid coach in the SEC behind Nick Saban.

Played us like a fiddle to get a small raise from Oklahoma St.
 
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Gatornator said:
Don't hang around the Vol forums as much, but I have been through the $hit show of coach searches with other Gators around the same time. We had some delusional gators too, but don't know what the level of delusion here is. Would love to hear your list of other "proven coaches" that were available to hire realistically at UF or UT.
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Define realistically.

If you mean only the ones that were publically known to have been offered or were offered peanut money, not too many. However if you mean those that can be swayed by a big money offer..that list would be fairly large..
 
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MaTaLa said:
Just a snippet, I think recruiting class rankings are way overvalued when gauging the success level of a coach. Really, who cares at the end of the season when success is measured by wins and losses.
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And yet Bama and UGA are recruiting better than anyone. Sure, that makes a **** load of sense.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Define realistically.

If you mean only the ones that were publically known to have been offered or were offered peanut money, not too many. However if you mean those that can be swayed by a big money offer..that list would be fairly large..
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You got 6-7 million a year. Who would you get that is "proven"?
 
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