Tennessee's perpetual hot seat

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UT fans have poured gasoline on the coaching seat and lit it up.

Any coach who comes here will immediately be on the hot seat and spend the first few seasons trying to battle his way off of the hot seat. No decent coach with a proven track record and success at another school will want to step into that situation. The only ones who would be willing to take on the UT situation are coaches who are desperate because they are old, or caught up in ethics violations, or inexperienced, or have a piss-poor W-L record.

At the beginning of this coaching search, the UT program was not as attractive as most of you delusional fans imagined it to be precisely because you were holding the fire to the seat. Now it is even less attractive. This is what you have done to Tennessee football. Nice work.
 
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If they would just hire a good coach instead of getting the last 2 off eBay it wouldn’t be that bad.

We expect better from our administration who have almost killed the football program...not the fans. The fans are vocal because of the inept decisions being made and puppetering going on over the last decade.

It’s time to right the ship even if that means starting over again from the ground up
 
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Sad but true! I think now an ambitious, but inexperienced
coordinator is in our future.
 
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UT fans have poured gasoline on the coaching seat and lit it up.

Any coach who comes here will immediately be on the hot seat and spend the first few seasons trying to battle his way off of the hot seat. No decent coach with a proven track record and success at another school will want to step into that situation. The only ones who would be willing to take on the UT situation are coaches who are desperate because they are old, or caught up in ethics violations, or inexperienced, or have a piss-poor W-L record.

At the beginning of this coaching search, the UT program was not as attractive as most of you delusional fans imagined it to be precisely because you were holding the fire to the seat. Now it is even less attractive. This is what you have done to Tennessee football. Nice work.


Witch Doctor say Nostradamus thank for those great words of widsom...oh about 35 post ago..Theres been at least 5 post this week on it. Spooky powers though! Witch Doctor think South Park did an episode on it. we know we are a dumpster fire...duh

BNL

Lottery numbers? ( not 2 weeks ago)lol jk
 
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If they would just hire a good coach instead of getting the last 2 off eBay it wouldn’t be that bad.

We expect better from our administration who have almost killed the football program...not the fans. The fans are vocal because of the inept decisions being made and puppetering going on over the last decade.

It’s time to right the ship even if that means starting over again from the ground up

I agree, the administration blew it. But I think the fans made it far worse and continue to do so by setting high demands, stalking airplane flights, and posting covert pictures of other coaches at airports. Florida fans were not happy with their hire, but they swallowed it and are moving forward with tempered optimism. Early signing is around the corner. The recruits are watching. Who looks better right now, UF or UT? The fans need to accept that they don't really know as much about the intricacies of coaching or playing or recruiting or hiring as they think they do, as they type emojis on the internet. A quick listen to the fans calling in to Basilio or Ainge is all you need to realise how silly and inept these fans are.
 
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Any coach who is scared of fan expectations does not need to coach at UTK. This process is going to drag on. The 2018 recruiting class is not salvageable so forget artificial deadlines. We'll get the right person eventually.
 
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I agree, the administration blew it. But I think the fans made it far worse and continue to do so by setting high demands, stalking airplane flights, and posting covert pictures of other coaches at airports. Florida fans were not happy with their hire, but they swallowed it and are moving forward with tempered optimism. Early signing is around the corner. The recruits are watching. Who looks better right now, UF or UT? The fans need to accept that they don't really know as much about the intricacies of coaching or playing or recruiting or hiring as they think they do, as they type emojis on the internet. A quick listen to the fans calling in to Basilio or Ainge is all you need to realise how silly and inept these fans are.

I agree... but the way I feel about the early signing period now is... a coach is for ~5 years (or hopefully more)... we can give up some recruits in year 1 to get the right coach in place
 
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The reason coaches have been on the hot seat is because we have atrocious coaching. Not the other way around.
 
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UT fans have poured gasoline on the coaching seat and lit it up.

Any coach who comes here will immediately be on the hot seat and spend the first few seasons trying to battle his way off of the hot seat. No decent coach with a proven track record and success at another school will want to step into that situation. The only ones who would be willing to take on the UT situation are coaches who are desperate because they are old, or caught up in ethics violations, or inexperienced, or have a piss-poor W-L record.

At the beginning of this coaching search, the UT program was not as attractive as most of you delusional fans imagined it to be precisely because you were holding the fire to the seat. Now it is even less attractive. This is what you have done to Tennessee football. Nice work.


In other words: It's not about money (although the money is there for him), but ALL about the ability of John Currie -- Can THE John Currie Search Committee (a committee which has never hired a college head football coach) identify, within a reasonable time-frame, and secure a proven winner with the abilities and Tennessee-fit to come coach and lead student-athletes at Tennessee, in this environment as pictured below?

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21. Ole Miss: $56.8 million
20. South Carolina: $59.6 million
16. Arkansas: $68.9 million
13. Texas A&M: $73.7 million
11. Florida: $83.8 million
10. LSU: $85.7 million
8. Georgia: $87.6 million
7. Auburn: $92.5 million
3. Alabama: $103.9 million
2. Tennessee: $107.1 million
 
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UT fans have poured gasoline on the coaching seat and lit it up.

Any coach who comes here will immediately be on the hot seat and spend the first few seasons trying to battle his way off of the hot seat. No decent coach with a proven track record and success at another school will want to step into that situation. The only ones who would be willing to take on the UT situation are coaches who are desperate because they are old, or caught up in ethics violations, or inexperienced, or have a piss-poor W-L record.

At the beginning of this coaching search, the UT program was not as attractive as most of you delusional fans imagined it to be precisely because you were holding the fire to the seat. Now it is even less attractive. This is what you have done to Tennessee football. Nice work.

You are stupid AF if you think this seat is "hot" with competent leadership. The problem isn't fan support/pressure it's poor hires for the better part of a decade now.
 
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21. Ole Miss: $56.8 million
20. South Carolina: $59.6 million
16. Arkansas: $68.9 million
13. Texas A&M: $73.7 million
11. Florida: $83.8 million
10. LSU: $85.7 million
8. Georgia: $87.6 million
7. Auburn: $92.5 million
3. Alabama: $103.9 million
2. Tennessee: $107.1 million

Where do those numbers come from? I have been seeing vastly different valuations of UT football, but my numbers could be outdated or focused on a different set of measuring criteria.
 
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UT fans have poured gasoline on the coaching seat and lit it up.

Any coach who comes here will immediately be on the hot seat and spend the first few seasons trying to battle his way off of the hot seat. No decent coach with a proven track record and success at another school will want to step into that situation. The only ones who would be willing to take on the UT situation are coaches who are desperate because they are old, or caught up in ethics violations, or inexperienced, or have a piss-poor W-L record.

At the beginning of this coaching search, the UT program was not as attractive as most of you delusional fans imagined it to be precisely because you were holding the fire to the seat. Now it is even less attractive. This is what you have done to Tennessee football. Nice work.


Give it a rest Sparky. Folks are tired of this crap, if anything it has taken too long for the fans to get to this point. Total mismanagement of the athletic department, along with the entire University has led to this (gender neutral pronouns anyone?). I will take you up on your offer, I could definitely pick a better coach than Currie, and get them to come here.
 
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Where do those numbers come from? I have been seeing vastly different valuations of UT football, but my numbers could be outdated or focused on a different set of measuring criteria.

TN has an advantage of population combined with only having one flagship university in the state so I don't doubt the numbers but I do wonder how much of UTK revenue is dedicated to servicing debt, such as facility upgrades and coaching buyouts. We may generate the most revenue and concurrently have less discretionary spending money than other programs that generate much less revenue.

edit: to illustrate my point, look at Auburn's revenue and then think about what Bama might rake in if those two schools were not in the same state.
 
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UT fans have poured gasoline on the coaching seat and lit it up.

Any coach who comes here will immediately be on the hot seat and spend the first few seasons trying to battle his way off of the hot seat. No decent coach with a proven track record and success at another school will want to step into that situation. The only ones who would be willing to take on the UT situation are coaches who are desperate because they are old, or caught up in ethics violations, or inexperienced, or have a piss-poor W-L record.

At the beginning of this coaching search, the UT program was not as attractive as most of you delusional fans imagined it to be precisely because you were holding the fire to the seat. Now it is even less attractive. This is what you have done to Tennessee football. Nice work.

That's it blame it on the fans. Your right the fans hired Dooley and Butch. The best thing the fans did was stop this stupid ShiaNO hire. Your post is as lazy as the national media national media wanting to blame the fans and not the source. The problem starts with a hated AD in Currie who has a rep in the business as a jerk to the coaches. The people at Kansas State were amazed UT wanted this ass clown but like normal the leadership here can't vet as they say the people they hire this clown. So you can take your fan blame and shove it. The "fans" have been loyal to two horrible hires in Dooley and Butch. The fans will support the next coach too. There's nothing wrong with wanting better for your team.
 
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UT fans have poured gasoline on the coaching seat and lit it up.

Any coach who comes here will immediately be on the hot seat and spend the first few seasons trying to battle his way off of the hot seat. No decent coach with a proven track record and success at another school will want to step into that situation. The only ones who would be willing to take on the UT situation are coaches who are desperate because they are old, or caught up in ethics violations, or inexperienced, or have a piss-poor W-L record.

At the beginning of this coaching search, the UT program was not as attractive as most of you delusional fans imagined it to be precisely because you were holding the fire to the seat. Now it is even less attractive. This is what you have done to Tennessee football. Nice work.

Fans didn't do that, a corrupt and inept athletic department led by the Haslams did that. The fans just didn't let them hire their next writing on the wall disaster. They rushed to hire a guy who wasn't on any other power 5 radar like there was about to be a bidding war for him. They bypassed at best 10 other guys that should have been made to say no and immediately went to plan z. It was inept and they bungled this process back in October.

The reason we find ourselves in the predicament we are isn't because the fans stood up and said no. It is because the AD is so inept and dysfunctional no coach worth it wants to work here. It's why we are repeatedly passed over. We are and have been competing with non power 5 schools for coaching talent because of the worst run Athletic department in college sports.

The Schiano fiasco was just the lastest example. When you indicate that you are committed to bring the best and it is obvious your fanbase is not in the same page with expectations unless you are totally blind you don't get that far into the process without floating it to the fanbase. This tells me it was done purposefully, either that or Currie is just in way over his head. Either way the blame does not lay with the fanbase.
 
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FWIW, I still remember all the people that wanted to fire Phil Fulmer the day he started. Basically everybody I know here hated him. At first, I mean. After a while, a few of them kinda got over it. But of course that didn't last.
 
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