Tennessee Volunteers - Winningest SEC Program for Last 9 Years

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Among ALL SEC Basketball programs since the 2017-2018 season, our Vols are #1. Considering we play in the toughest, deepest conference in the land, that's quite impressive! I stopped counting with the 2016-2017 season since our Vols finished 16-16 (8-10 in SEC) and Kentucky (32-6, 16-2) would have been #1 in SEC play over 10 years. BUT.... 9 years isn't too shabby!
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bigorangedude said:
This is surely the best 9-year run in team history. To clarify, the Overall Rank is based on Wins, NOT Percentage as intended. My mistake, but I'm unable to change.
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It's extremely good, and with the post season success, is the most successful stretch we've ever had. Mears went on a 14 year run with a 72.4 percent winning percentage, to match the overall win percentage of this 9 year run, but for 5 more years.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
It's extremely good, and with the post season success, is the most successful stretch we've ever had. Mears went on a 14 year run with a 72.4 percent winning percentage, to match the overall win percentage of this 9 year run, but for 5 more years.
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Mears played against an inferior SEC. Barnes has had the SEC at it's pinnacle.
 
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maxorange said:
Mears played against an inferior SEC. Barnes has had the SEC at it's pinnacle.
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The SEC wasn’t inferior. Kentucky was one of the best teams year in and year out. Bama with CM Newton was outstanding. Vandy was a very good program.

The SEC teams had great athletes. What the SEC wasn’t getting was respect from the national media and no support from the NCAA. The Big 10 was the darling along with the ACC. And the sexy PAC 8/10.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
The SEC wasn’t inferior. Kentucky was one of the best teams year in and year out. Bama with CM Newton was outstanding. Vandy was a very good program.

The SEC teams had great athletes. What the SEC wasn’t getting was respect from the national media and no support from the NCAA. The Big 10 was the darling along with the ACC. And the sexy PAC 8/10.
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I disagree that the SEC was as competitive back in Mears day as it has been the past decade. You listed 3 teams as competitive. The SEC has expanded since then and there’s been a clear rise across the conference in a commitment to basketball and now there’s usually only a couple teams that can be counted on as almost sure wins each season and it’s not the same program each season. There’s way more parity in the league now and I don’t think it’s even debatable
 
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I was curious about that so pulled in SRS ratings for Tennessee since 1950.1777559422659.png

It's crazy how much the SOS has changed in the SEC, even in the last few years. Mathematically, each of Barnes' last 5 seasons (25-12, 30-8, 27-9, 25-11, 27-8) have graded out better even than Pearl's 31-5 season.

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walkenvol said:
I disagree that the SEC was as competitive back in Mears day as it has been the past decade. You listed 3 teams as competitive. The SEC has expanded since then and there’s been a clear rise across the conference in a commitment to basketball and now there’s usually only a couple teams that can be counted on as almost sure wins each season and it’s not the same program each season. There’s way more parity in the league now and I don’t think it’s even debatable
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“An inferior SEC” isn’t the same thing as what you’re arguing. The SEC wasn’t hot garbage during the Mears era.

BTW, Miss State was also a very good program. LSU, UF, UGa, and Barn were in the lower half of the league. Really Ole Miss might have been the only relief in the 18 game round robin conference schedule.
 
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Fhar Barnes. We can do better than this w/o a guy using us for leverage for more money, having the modern game pass him by, and especially just here to get a paycheck as he rides off into retirement.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
The SEC wasn’t inferior. Kentucky was one of the best teams year in and year out. Bama with CM Newton was outstanding. Vandy was a very good program.

The SEC teams had great athletes. What the SEC wasn’t getting was respect from the national media and no support from the NCAA. The Big 10 was the darling along with the ACC. And the sexy PAC 8/10.
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I also found the Pac 10 quite sexy. Those outfits it used to wear drove me wild.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
“An inferior SEC” isn’t the same thing as what you’re arguing. The SEC wasn’t hot garbage during the Mears era.

BTW, Miss State was also a very good program. LSU, UF, UGa, and Barn were in the lower half of the league. Really Ole Miss might have been the only relief in the 18 game round robin conference schedule.
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The SEC had some great teams in the 1970s. It had some weak teams too. In our 16-2 season in 1977, we lost to the two worst teams on the road, but beat all the better teams twice
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
The SEC wasn’t inferior. Kentucky was one of the best teams year in and year out. Bama with CM Newton was outstanding. Vandy was a very good program.

The SEC teams had great athletes. What the SEC wasn’t getting was respect from the national media and no support from the NCAA. The Big 10 was the darling along with the ACC. And the sexy PAC 8/10.
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May not have b a n inferior…that’s certainly debatable but it was top heavy, as compared to recent years
 
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njvols said:
May not have b a n inferior…that’s certainly debatable but it was top heavy, as compared to recent years
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I don’t think you’re getting it. The SEC was not an inferior league during the Nears era. Great athletes. Great coaches. KY’s NCs.

I’m not comparing that era to today. There were 10 teams then (plus GT for about 2 years and Tulane for about 4 years). There are almost twice as many today. And today the SEC has created a huge gap between their programs and the middle tier of conferences.

Mears did not compete in a crap conference. That’s absolutely not debatable.
 
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Until football can win an actual SEC Championship, we are a basketball school
 
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