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They predicted us to finish 7th right?
They also predicted us to miss the NCAAs, be unranked, have no prayers in contention for even 2nd team all SEC, and that there was no way that our system would be able to keep us close against the top teams,, right?
 
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They also predicted us to miss the NCAAs, be unranked, have no prayers in contention for even 2nd team all SEC, and that there was no way that our system would be able to keep us close against the top teams,, right?
I read a lot about SEC WBB in the preseason, I don’t recall reading where anyone predicted UT missing the tourney or having no players in the mix for even 2nd team All SEC, but honestly I will take your word for it, I don’t catch everything.
 
I read a lot about SEC WBB in the preseason, I don’t recall reading where anyone predicted UT missing the tourney or having no players in the mix for even 2nd team All SEC, but honestly I will take your word for it, I don’t catch everything.
I remember reading about both thing in the same article that I can't find now. I did find two preseason All sec polls, neither had a Lady Vol player mentioned in either the first or second teams. Here is the SEC coaches selections: Coaches tab South Carolina as 2025 SEC Women’s Basketball favorites - Southeastern Conference. None were mentioned in the USA preseason either.

AS far as the preseason or first bracketology of the season, I can't find creme's first bracketology of the season. I do know that UT moved up as the season progressed on all the ratings due to their massive score differentials and wins over FSU and Iowa in the pre-conference games.
 
I remember reading about both thing in the same article that I can't find now. I did find two preseason All sec polls, neither had a Lady Vol player mentioned in either the first or second teams. Here is the SEC coaches selections: Coaches tab South Carolina as 2025 SEC Women’s Basketball favorites - Southeastern Conference. None were mentioned in the USA preseason either.

AS far as the preseason or first bracketology of the season, I can't find creme's first bracketology of the season. I do know that UT moved up as the season progressed on all the ratings due to their massive score differentials and wins over FSU and Iowa in the pre-conference games.
I was thinking Crème had UT in from the start, I could be wrong LV. Didn’t he have a write up preseason that was partially featured with his talk about it being close for the LV streak to make it again, but he said they would make it?
 
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I was thinking Crème had UT in from the start, I could be wrong LV. Didn’t he have a write up preseason that was partially featured with his talk about it being close for the LV streak to make it again, but he said they would make it?
You may be right about Creme. I was thinking it could have been from Cora Hall or some other writer who mentioned about the SEC preseason teams and who was on the outside looking in on the NCAAs. I didn't remember them saying Creme but assumed it was him given that I don't know who else does it. In any case, our players and team is doing much better than expected.
 
I like you, but know where near as much as you like yourself. You think you know more than any of the coaches and everything you post is the gospel. Let's let the professional coaching staff that we have do what they feel is right. The SEC is a little different from level that you coached at. Before you say it, WE ALL KNOW you've coached college level players , but you've never coached against SEC level coaches. My rant is over, have a nice evening. GBO!
You’ve got to wonder if his chest isn’t bruised from the constant beating it takes.
 
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Regardless of the system not playing with a sense of urgency for 40 minutes. Not playing smart for forty minutes. Not working for the best shot for 40 minutes. We play like South Carolina for about 25 minutes every game and Georgia the other 15. So at this point in the season this team has underacheived their talent. Just 8 or 10 minutes a game we can't keep it together and play effective basketball. Were a more talented team than Vanderbilt and Oklahoma. We should've won at home against LSU. We've let three SEC game slip through our hands and were at the point where were ruining a very promising season if we don't get it together in this stretch run. Coach Kim knows what it takes she hasn't been able to get it out of them. Another week off to get better we'll see where we are Sunday.

As far as the substitution pattern I think Coach will learn that is probably to extreme for the SEC. I can see subs at the three minute mark less than a minute has never made any sense to me. Any player should be able to go hard for three minutes that is like three possessions per team and no more than six if your shooting every fifteen seconds. I mean you could go 3-3-2-2 that is still 20 minutes a player. Actually some players are pushing thirty a game so it makes sense for them to play longer stretches and rest longer stretches.

Spot on.
 
You said it was spot on. Check that last paragraph. Not quite a summary as it introduces another topic, the sub pattern.

Don’t disagree with what they said and also don’t think that’s a significant deviation from her “system.” I would like to see players out there a minute or so longer if they’re able. As of right now the players have not shown they can go hard for that length of time so the subs have to be more frequent, she reads her team well. She has stated previously that she has traditionally left players in longer as the season goes and they get in game shape and understand her system.

Occasionally Spencer or Cooper goes for a longer stretch. Longterm, as we have more athletic players, I think we will see that. At the moment a lot of what is happening is getting the better players a quick blow so they can go back in. She can’t leave certain players out there in three minute stretches for defensive reasons. So that means the sub pattern is ultra quick.

Next season when we have (hopefully) the excellent freshman class paired with our athletic returners the sub pattern will increase in length of time on the floor. At the moment we have some returners, whom I love and are giving their all, who just aren’t built for this style of play. Chiefly Puckett and Darby. Who will presumably be replaced with Prawl and Civil who appear much better suited to this style of play.
 
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You may be right about Creme. I was thinking it could have been from Cora Hall or some other writer who mentioned about the SEC preseason teams and who was on the outside looking in on the NCAAs. I didn't remember them saying Creme but assumed it was him given that I don't know who else does it. In any case, our players and team is doing much better than expected.

Pretty sure he had us as a bubble team to start the season. Everyone was hedging their bet until they saw how this hire would workout.
 
Don’t disagree with what they said and also don’t think that’s a significant deviation from her “system.” I would like to see players out there a minute or so longer if they’re able. As of right now the players have not shown they can go hard for that length of time so the subs have to be more frequent, she reads her team well. She has stated previously that she has traditionally left players in longer as the season goes and they get in game shape and understand her system.

Occasionally Spencer or Cooper goes for a longer stretch. Longterm, as we have more athletic players, I think we will see that. At the moment a lot of what is happening is getting the better players a quick blow so they can go back in. She can’t leave certain players out there in three minute stretches for defensive reasons. So that means the sub pattern is ultra quick.

Next season when we have (hopefully) the excellent freshman class paired with our athletic returners the sub pattern will increase in length of time on the floor. At the moment we have some returners, whom I love and are giving their all, who just aren’t built for this style of play. Chiefly Puckett and Darby. Who will presumably be replaced with Prawl and Civil who appear much better suited to this style of play.
The pattern has gotten to where Cooper, Spencer, Whitehorn, Spear and Spearman push 30 minutes a game or go over. Depends on whether they can stay out of foul trouble. Boyd, Latham, and Hollingshead are starting to see an increase in playing time. Puckett and Darby have lost minutes. A ten player rotation is simply what more than half the teams play in WCBB basketball. So the 20 minute thing has lost merit you play more if you produce more and less if you don't basically like any other team.

The one big sore spot that still stands out is the subbing which I consider just a little to quick not of fan of 90 seconds. If a player can't go hard for three minutes not in good enough shape. The fact that I am not a fan of the quick subbing doesn't mean it won't work as we do seem to get an edge out of it with most teams in the second half of the game. Staying close in the first half has been more of the problem in several of the games.
 
The pattern has gotten to where Cooper, Spencer, Whitehorn, Spear and Spearman push 30 minutes a game or go over. Depends on whether they can stay out of foul trouble. Boyd, Latham, and Hollingshead are starting to see an increase in playing time. Puckett and Darby have lost minutes. A ten player rotation is simply what more than half the teams play in WCBB basketball. So the 20 minute thing has lost merit you play more if you produce more and less if you don't basically like any other team.

The one big sore spot that still stands out is the subbing which I consider just a little to quick not of fan of 90 seconds. If a player can't go hard for three minutes not in good enough shape. The fact that I am not a fan of the quick subbing doesn't mean it won't work as we do seem to get an edge out of it with most teams in the second half of the game. Staying close in the first half has been more of the problem in several of the games.
I definitely see the benefits of subbing when you can go ten deep, which we should be able to do even easier with no drop-off after first year due to her recruiting. The place where it seems ludicrous is as you say the 90 second subbing, which she does at the beginning of the game. It takes at least 90 seconds at the start of the game to get into the flow, so right when the first team does that she is subbing the next group who are not in the flow. It means that no one is the flow for at least 3 minutes. I don't know how this helps us either conceptually or through observation.
A side comment regarding amount of playing time is I don't remember a player who is as fast and athletic as Latham get in such quick foul trouble in almost every game. It usually is the players who are guarding someone more athletic than them who have this issue. It is really remarkable how little time she really gets to play. She is a player that really needs the game experience to reach her potential, as she is not close to it yet. Many of her fouls are away from the goal and are hard to grasp why she did it. Granted, some are not close to flagrant, but I sure hope she improves in this area. It is a waste for her to be on the bench so much.
 
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