Tennessee In State Talent

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Why do states such as Louisiana and Alabama have more state talent every year with less population than Tennessee? It is really hurting us because we have to go out of state to get most of our recruits.
 
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GoVolsIn08 said:
Why do states such as Louisiana and Alabama have more state talent every year with less population than Tennessee? It is really hurting us because we have to go out of state to get most of our recruits.
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Do you want the real answer or do you want the politically correct answer?
 
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GoVolsIn08 said:
Why do states such as Louisiana and Alabama have more state talent every year with less population than Tennessee? It is really hurting us because we have to go out of state to get most of our recruits.
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Because our state is loaded with academic over achievers and athletics suffers for that reason. Vandy is reaping all of the benefits. :crazy:
 
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One thing I've heard over and over is how subpar the coaching is in Tennessee. I'm not saying anything about the talent disparity, just pointing out what I've heard.
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rexvol said:
One thing I've heard over and over is how subpar the coaching is in Tennessee. I'm not saying anything about the talent disparity, just pointing out what I've heard.
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there are a few great coaches in TN. but for every one..theres 10 bad ones
 
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I just think the programs are just not as good. Probably a money thing. I live outside of nashville and there quite a few stadiums that need renovations or totally demolished and rebuilt. I maybe wrong but i just don't think we pour the money into it like other states. Were not as densely populated like some other states. Slimmer pickings. Even if the kid is from here it may not mean he wants to come here.
 
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Maryville sure as he'll puts money into their stuff..just wish they put more players in D1..they mostly go small schools..here in the next few years tho..look out for more prospects from blount and Knox county
 
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Memphis puts out some good players...not to be politically incorrect or anything...

What it seems to take is one of 2 things to produce many players of a high caliber...
1. High population throughout the state (this makes it easier to have 5-10 high star players in a state)
2. A few high schools with such winning traditions that people transfer to go there (this is what you have with places like Hoover, AL and others) When one school has a tradition of producing great players, parents with decent kids will move families into that school's district so they get the same opportunities

In Tennessee, the only real school with that kind of production is Maryville...And again, not to get politically incorrect, but you won't be finding families with kids playing for Melrose (Memphis) moving to Maryville...
 
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I've also heard that in Florida / Georgia / ect that they will start the kids from middle school using the local high school play-book, and it is supposed to be advantageous for them because it starts their development early and then settles them in faster in high school. We (Tennessee) reportedly have a very horrible young development program, but I'm not sure I buy into that being a major issue in our failure to produce a lot of great in-state players.
 
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TreeGreen, That's common anywhere you have good football traditions. I grew up in the same town as Heath Shuler. For years and probably even now, the kids started using the basic sets and nomenclature as "Termites"... 2nd, 3rd, and 4th grades.

Another thing I've heard is that much of Tn doesn't have good youth programs. When we lived in GA, my son played for a team that went to the state championship... for 7 and 8 year olds. They had a 4 round playoff. You wouldn't believe the quality of football that they actually played at that age. They lost to a team from College Park.
 
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Is no one going to say it? Sorry if this offends anyone but its the truth, those other states have a higher African-American populations than Tennessee does. Memphis has alot of African-Americans but it is a more basketball oriented city. Georgia is 29% African American and Tennessee is only 16% and on top of that Georgia has about 3,000,000 more people. So for that matter there are more white atheletes too because with 3 million more people you are bound to get a few better players out of that. There are other factors too like the youth programs and maybe even some of the high school coaching is not developing players like they should.
 
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B/c HS football is life in Louisiana and Alabama, and while HS football is big in Tennessee, it's not that big. I lived in Texas and HS football is more than life down there. They talked a/b HS football in Texas more than D-1 Football and they have three bcs conference teams in state!! Tennessee is just not as serious a/b hs football than other states.
 
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mattvols, even at that %... although I'm not sure about your GA number... Tn has more black folks than Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, SC, and probably Louisiana. Someone mentioned population distribution and that's probably a factor... but the biggest factor is what zjcvols said. The quality of the football leading up to and in HS just isn't as good or taken as serious in Tn.

HSFB in GA and SC like Texas is big doins'.
 
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rexvol said:
One thing I've heard over and over is how subpar the coaching is in Tennessee. I'm not saying anything about the talent disparity, just pointing out what I've heard.
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Many states don't have the weight restrictions to play little league ball we have. I remember when I played we had double stripe and single stripe. Double stripe could play on the line only, single stripe could play anywhere. The stripe rule as I understand it is not used in many other states and another reason for the lack of "talent".
 
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It comes down to how each high school prioritizes its sports programs. For example, the highschool I went to in TN was all about basketball. That was because it was the largest revenue generating sport at our school. Therefore, the bb coaches made more money than the rest of our school's coaches. And since we put a premium on our bb coaches pay, we can attract very good bball coaches. And because the coaching was better, the players were better. So its not surprising that half of our students who received college scholarships, are basketball players. I think TN is considered a Basketball State. Even Peyton said it at the UT/memphis bball game this year.

And Alabama, well look at their fans. The whole state is crazed football maniacs even at the highschool level. Some of the highest -paid and best highschool coaches in the nation are at Hoover, Spainpark, Prattville, etc.

Its about the $$$$, and the coaching that comes with it.
 
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sjt18 said:
mattvols, even at that %... although I'm not sure about your GA number... Tn has more black folks than Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, SC, and probably Louisiana. Someone mentioned population distribution and that's probably a factor... but the biggest factor is what zjcvols said. The quality of the football leading up to and in HS just isn't as good or taken as serious in Tn.

HSFB in GA and SC like Texas is big doins'.
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You're wayyyyyyyy off on saying Louisiana...Very black state.
 
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You are right but the difference isn't as great as you might think:

Tn- 17% of 6.2 million = 1.05 million

La- 33% of 4.2 million = 1.39 million

Of course it hurts UT's recruiting of Tn's black population since many are in the western part of the state.
 
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