Tennessee has #3 class according to RankbyOffers

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Exiled said:
We are ranked based on the quantity of commits we have right now...not quality.
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That is correct for now. It will change once NSD comes & the final recruits make their decisions. Then, it will weigh more towards quality rather than quantity.

BTW, going by this service only Navy has more commits than us for 2017 at 24. Western Michigan & Arizona are tied with us at 22. However, my numbers have the 2017 signing class at 23.

I still don't know for sure where C.J. Lewis fits. Is he going to count against the 2016 signing class or 2017? Does anybody know the answer to this for sure? Thanks!
 
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tonybologna said:
That is correct for now. It will change once NSD comes & the final recruits make their decisions. Then, it will weigh more towards quality rather than quantity.

BTW, going by this service only Navy has more commits than us for 2017 at 24. Western Michigan & Arizona are tied with us at 22. However, my numbers have the 2017 signing class at 23.

I still don't know for sure where C.J. Lewis fits. Is he going to count against the 2016 signing class or 2017? Does anybody know the answer to this for sure? Thanks!
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CJ Lewis is the 2017 QB. The other Lewis is a RB. The latest rumor is the RB may be a walkon. Still no conformation.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
CJ Lewis is the 2017 QB. The other Lewis is a RB. The latest rumor is the RB may be a walkon. Still no conformation.
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Right! I'm just trying to get the quantity straight for 2017 so far. I have a complete & updated recruit list on here so I want to make sure I get it right. Thanks!
 
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tonybologna said:
Right! I'm just trying to get the quantity straight for 2017 so far. I have a complete & updated recruit list on here so I want to make sure I get it right. Thanks!
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Oh, I thought you had them mixed up. There is zero doubt CJ Lewis counts toward 2017 at this point. Only way that changes is if he doesn't OV and he could blue shirt(then counts toward 2018). I doubt that happens as Butch may even want him to EE so he's on campus and getting to work.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
Oh, I thought you had them mixed up. There is zero doubt CJ Lewis counts toward 2017 at this point. Only way that changes is if he doesn't OV and he could blue shirt(then counts toward 2018). I doubt that happens as Butch may even want him to EE so he's on campus and getting to work.
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OK! That's the way I have it right now. I had C.J. Lewis in the 2017 class so my list should be completely right thus far. Thanks!
 
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TooRockyByFar said:
The guy that chose to put the name Dooley in his handle, and keep it, has better sense than you.
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Take the orange glasses off dude. As far as my intelligence is concerned, I just don't blindly follow the coach because he's "the coach." That my friend is for the sheep. This class is unacceptable. There is literally no way you will make me think otherwise. Just take a look around at commitments for similar programs. Our SEC rivals commitments look nothing like ours. There are way too many reaches in this class. UT shouldn't have to rely on hidden gems to fill their class with. I hope I'm wrong and in the end we totally flip this class into a top 10 recruiting haul on NSD. As for now, it's just a reach to think more than 10 guys on the list are power five players with NFL potential.
Drop.The.Mic
 
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millst987 said:
Take the orange glasses off dude. As far as my intelligence is concerned, I just don't blindly follow the coach because he's "the coach." That my friend is for the sheep. This class is unacceptable. There is literally no way you will make me think otherwise. Just take a look around at commitments for similar programs. Our SEC rivals commitments look nothing like ours. There are way too many reaches in this class. UT shouldn't have to rely on hidden gems to fill their class with. I hope I'm wrong and in the end we totally flip this class into a top 10 recruiting haul on NSD. As for now, it's just a reach to think more than 10 guys on the list are power five players with NFL potential.
Drop.The.Mic
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Blindly following would be an exercise in both loyalty and intelligence. Whether the class is acceptable or not to you, is a personal prerogative that in the grand scheme of things goes back to loyalty. Does the fact that the class is "unacceptable" in your mind mean that you will no longer pull for this team, or support the university? If so, then that is a loyalty decision for you to make, but seems fairly asinine considering you have no idea how those recruits will ultimately contribute to the success of the overall program. After following Tennessee football since I was a kid I'm not sure there's a on field/recruiting related issue that is going to make me pull for the Vols any less. If that makes me a sheep then so be it, but I also have more in my life than just Tennessee football and have learn to balance the joy/suffering of pulling for UT with what really matters.
 
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TooRockyByFar said:
Blindly following would be an exercise in both loyalty and intelligence. Whether the class is acceptable or not to you, is a personal prerogative that in the grand scheme of things goes back to loyalty. Does the fact that the class is "unacceptable" in your mind mean that you will no longer pull for this team, or support the university? If so, then that is a loyalty decision for you to make, but seems fairly asinine considering you have no idea how those recruits will ultimately contribute to the success of the overall program. After following Tennessee football since I was a kid I'm not sure there's a on field/recruiting related issue that is going to make me pull for the Vols any less. If that makes me a sheep then so be it, but I also have more in my life than just Tennessee football and have learn to balance the joy/suffering of pulling for UT with what really matters.
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Hat's too big bro.
 
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I would say this is the ranking that determines stars down the road. How many offers and who is offering is a direct correlation to how many stars they'll get when everything resets.
 
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ksgovols said:
I would say this is the ranking that determines stars down the road. How many offers and who is offering is a direct correlation to how many stars they'll get when everything resets.
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Not a good idea unless the recruiting sites can 100% verify an offer is legit AND committable now.

If he's showing offers from UT, Bama, OSU, LSU, and FSU he's a 4* right?

What if none of them will take his commitment today? Maybe he is a 4* and maybe he isn't. IMO the offer process would really need to change to put a lot of value in them. Hopefully when the sites are attempting to rank these guys it's on factors other than offer lists.
 
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PACKERVOL said:
One thing not mentioned is the fact we already have 23 committments. At lot of schools have far fewer which means they will pass by UT as they sign more recruits in this and every other recruiting site.
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Well, it was mentioned by the OP. We are 14th if you take the average. :hi:
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
Not a good idea unless the recruiting sites can 100% verify an offer is legit AND committable now.

If he's showing offers from UT, Bama, OSU, LSU, and FSU he's a 4* right?

What if none of them will take his commitment today? Maybe he is a 4* and maybe he isn't. IMO the offer process would really need to change to put a lot of value in them. Hopefully when the sites are attempting to rank these guys it's on factors other than offer lists.
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No ratings system is perfect especially ones where computer nerds watch film and think they can evaluate


The committable offer thing is an issue but as long as it's the same for all recruits which it is on this site it's equatable.

This rating system means more to me than any
 
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Which comes first, the computer nerds setting stars and then the schools offer? Or the offers start rolling in and the stars are assigned?

I have to think it's the latter.
 
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ksgovols said:
Which comes first, the computer nerds setting stars and then the schools offer? Or the offers start rolling in and the stars are assigned?

I have to think it's the latter.
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That sure matters for sure. Case in point our latest qb commit
 
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ksgovols said:
Which comes first, the computer nerds setting stars and then the schools offer? Or the offers start rolling in and the stars are assigned?

I have to think it's the latter.
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Offers are coming earlier and earlier every year. I think partly because they just don't mean what they use to. The best of the best are usually getting offers now by 9th grade or so. Some schools just toss em out like candy. Of course some kids hold 5-10 good offers before the services have them ranked. Like in the Scurry commitment last night he only had 2 offers TN and Toledo(if accurate). 247 did claim he's already a part if their top 100 for their top247 for 2019 which isn't out yet. Maybe he was, Maybe the UT commitment put him in there.
 
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