duckman398686
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Ten ways to make Americans love soccer.....
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Sorry I was a little late to the offside discussion, but after watching quite a bit of the WC and a few MLS games and some EPL games near the end of last season, my biggest complaint is also the offside rule. My complaint isn't the spirit of the rule itself, which I understand is necessary for the game.
The biggest problem, speaking from the viewpoint of an official, is the it's almost impossible to call correctly on a consistent basis. Your focus has to be in 2 places at once, and that's very difficult at best. You have to know exactly where one player is at the same time another player is striking the ball. Unless the entire play happens directly in front of you, it seems it would be very difficult to call all but the most obvious offside correctly. Given the number of missed offside calls, I can only conclude that it is, in fact, that difficult to call correctly.
A rule that is as difficult for an official to call correctly as the offside rule is just a bad rule. I'm not sure of the best way to fix it, but replay seems to be the obvious answer for the bigger leagues and tournaments. It's one call where replay makes it MUCH easier to get the call right. Short of a major overhaul to the rules, it's the only to have the game called fairly.
The biggest problem, speaking from the viewpoint of an official, is the it's almost impossible to call correctly on a consistent basis. Your focus has to be in 2 places at once, and that's very difficult at best. You have to know exactly where one player is at the same time another player is striking the ball. Unless the entire play happens directly in front of you, it seems it would be very difficult to call all but the most obvious offside correctly. Given the number of missed offside calls, I can only conclude that it is, in fact, that difficult to call correctly.
A rule that is as difficult for an official to call correctly as the offside rule is just a bad rule. I'm not sure of the best way to fix it, but replay seems to be the obvious answer for the bigger leagues and tournaments. It's one call where replay makes it MUCH easier to get the call right. Short of a major overhaul to the rules, it's the only to have the game called fairly.
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How many charging/blocking fouls are missed called in the NBA? Or holding and pass interference in the NFL? Balls and strikes in MLB?
Every sport has things that are difficult to call but don't require instant replay, they are just more accepted here. I understand where you are coming from but you have to keep things in perspective. You can't stop the flow of the games to check the tape for offsides calls.
Replay for offside with a challenge system, or review on goals would take very little time, because on replay it's easy to see. It's MUCH easier to see on replay than at full speed. It would also be during a dead ball anyway. It would be just like tennis challenges, you just draw a line across the field and see if anyone is over it. How many times did ESPN do it during the WC? Takes 5 seconds and you get it right. There's not an easier fix in sports.
Block/charge isn't that hard a call, and there are fewer missed than is commonly believed, even among basketball people. There are some missed, but surprisingly few. Balls and strikes you have to adjust to the umpire, because they're usually at least consistent from umpire to umpire. The only thing close is pass interference, and blown PI calls are pretty rare too. Like offside, they can have a big impact on the game, but they're not missed nearly as often as offside.
Offside is a constant problem in soccer, and if you keep the rule, there has to be a better way of officiating it.
HawaiiVol
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Dead ball in soccer? lol
The only time play stops is halftime and during an injury.
I love both "footballs". I quite enjoy the fact that I can sit down to watch a game and know that 2 hours later at maximum, the game will be over after 90 minutes of game time + 15 minute halftime + injury time and I'm not bombarded with advertising every 2 minutes.
Compare that to American football, where 60 minutes of game time takes anywhere from 3-4 hours because advertisers want play to stop so they can sell you a can of air freshener...
As far as scoring chances not being plentiful enough, there's plenty for me. A typical EPL game will see ~30+ shots (guesstimating here), with maybe 30% of those being on goal forcing saves from the goalie or rolling into the back of the net. It's not so easy trying to control a rolling, bouncing ball at a sprint holding off the defenders and putting a shot on goal that beats the goalie who's playing the angles you can take.
The only time play stops is halftime and during an injury.
I love both "footballs". I quite enjoy the fact that I can sit down to watch a game and know that 2 hours later at maximum, the game will be over after 90 minutes of game time + 15 minute halftime + injury time and I'm not bombarded with advertising every 2 minutes.
Compare that to American football, where 60 minutes of game time takes anywhere from 3-4 hours because advertisers want play to stop so they can sell you a can of air freshener...
As far as scoring chances not being plentiful enough, there's plenty for me. A typical EPL game will see ~30+ shots (guesstimating here), with maybe 30% of those being on goal forcing saves from the goalie or rolling into the back of the net. It's not so easy trying to control a rolling, bouncing ball at a sprint holding off the defenders and putting a shot on goal that beats the goalie who's playing the angles you can take.
Rasputin_Vol
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11) Get rid of offsides rule...1) Allow timeouts ( In case need to go get a beer and don't have TiVo).
2) Divide the game into four quarters.
3) Allow use of hands.
4) Allow tackling.
5) Allow time outs.
6) Allow cheerleaders.....scantily dressed.
7) Let each goal count six points.
8) Allow free kick after each goal for one point.
9) Have players wear helmets
10) Have the world cup every year and call it the..... SUPERBOWL!!!lol:
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