Team Doctor and Injuries

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I wonder why our AD department looks down on our athletes getting second second opinions outside of campus. I know JG had some serious nerve issues last season and could never get them resolved, but I spoke with him and he said he has never felt better after going to get some extra help this off season. The beating he has taken, he needs to be sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber. This is one strong example with our starting QB.

The AD department should want the best for our athletes, even is it means looking outside to get a second opinion. Hopefully with more depth we can get over the plague of injuries and last a full season. Go Vols!
 
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When can you say with certainty that the Athletic department has looked down on or frowned upon a athlete for getting a second opinion medically? Cause I don’t remember any. And After the **** show of injuries the past 5 Years at UT most parents or players are gonna want their kid to get as many opinions as possible before surgery. Most doctors, if not all will tell you to get a 2nd or 3rd opinion. Especially when your dealing with young men and women who Need their surgeries to go perfectly so they can live out their lives comfortably.
 
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So, did JG recently do some deep sea diving, then surface too quickly, resulting in the condition known as the "Bends"? Maybe he suffered carbon monoxide poisoning somewhere? These are the only CREDIBLE uses for using an HBO chamber. It has been tested as a treatment for sports injuries, Autism, Lyme Disease, Alzheimers, diabetic ulcers, Multiple Sclerosis, Cirrhosis, and Arthritis with no discernable benefit. Perhaps the administration does not want its athletes going to nutjob medical practitioners. We don't need our starting QB to go all Michael Jackson on us.
 
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I wonder why our AD department looks down on our athletes getting second second opinions outside of campus. I know JG had some serious nerve issues last season and could never get them resolved, but I spoke with him and he said he has never felt better after going to get some extra help this off season. The beating he has taken, he needs to be sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber. This is one strong example with our starting QB.

The AD department should want the best for our athletes, even is it means looking outside to get a second opinion. Hopefully with more depth we can get over the plague of injuries and last a full season. Go Vols!
............and sometimes rest can help more than treatment.
 
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So, did JG recently do some deep sea diving, then surface too quickly, resulting in the condition known as the "Bends"? Maybe he suffered carbon monoxide poisoning somewhere? These are the only CREDIBLE uses for using an HBO chamber. It has been tested as a treatment for sports injuries, Autism, Lyme Disease, Alzheimers, diabetic ulcers, Multiple Sclerosis, Cirrhosis, and Arthritis with no discernable benefit. Perhaps the administration does not want its athletes going to nutjob medical practitioners. We don't need our starting QB to go all Michael Jackson on us.
Lol...ok doctor. It doesn’t work at all for wounds, especially those with diabetes? Lmao. Know what you’re talking about before you speak.
 
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Why is JG telling you about his medical issues and more importantly, why are you disclosing that on a message board?
Well well... everything is healed and better than ever. It was a very positive conversation, which is something to be proud of. Playing college ball myself, getting serious injuries and not having the time to rest (or correct treatment) can really drain your confidence. JG is in his best shape and feels 100%. So are some other teammates who have had lingering injuries. Our depth will be three deep everywhere except the O-Line. Pray we get Trey and Kennedy tuned up.
 
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So, did JG recently do some deep sea diving, then surface too quickly, resulting in the condition known as the "Bends"? Maybe he suffered carbon monoxide poisoning somewhere? These are the only CREDIBLE uses for using an HBO chamber. It has been tested as a treatment for sports injuries, Autism, Lyme Disease, Alzheimers, diabetic ulcers, Multiple Sclerosis, Cirrhosis, and Arthritis with no discernable benefit. Perhaps the administration does not want its athletes going to nutjob medical practitioners. We don't need our starting QB to go all Michael Jackson on us.
It was an exaggeration to the severeness of JG’s beatdowns he has taken over the seasons. Calm down now Doc.
 
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I wonder why our AD department looks down on our athletes getting second second opinions outside of campus. I know JG had some serious nerve issues last season and could never get them resolved, but I spoke with him and he said he has never felt better after going to get some extra help this off season. The beating he has taken, he needs to be sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber. This is one strong example with our starting QB.

The AD department should want the best for our athletes, even is it means looking outside to get a second opinion. Hopefully with more depth we can get over the plague of injuries and last a full season. Go Vols!
Not only does the UTAD, Athletic Training staff and team physicians ENCOURAGE athletes to get a second opinion, but they help facilitate fast tracking of appointments and arrange the travel (at UT’s expense, by the way) to see these specialists, AND a member of the training staff is available to travel with the student-athlete to the appointment.

I could cite numerous examples where athletes sought and received a second opinion and where non-UT physicians did surgeries. Several have been done by the James Andrews group (who, by the way, actually requires that someone gets another opinion before they cut and requires that a team trainer accompany a college athlete to the appointments to ensure continuity of care).

I don’t know about a hyperbaric chamber as treatment for the sprains that JG had last year, but there’s only one in the Knoxville area (Parkwest medical Center) and it’s not available for sleeping in overnight.

So, basically, your post was complete uninformed nonsense from start to finish.
 
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Well well... everything is healed and better than ever. It was a very positive conversation, which is something to be proud of. Playing college ball myself, getting serious injuries and not having the time to rest (or correct treatment) can really drain your confidence. JG is in his best shape and feels 100%. So are some other teammates who have had ingesting injuries. Our depth will be three deep everywhere except the O-Line. Pray we get Trey and Kennedy tuned up.
Do you play football for UT?
 
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Not only does the UTAD, Athletic Training staff and team physicians ENCOURAGE athletes to get a second opinion, but they help facilitate fast tracking of appointments and arrange the travel (at UT’s expense, by the way) to see these specialists, AND a member of the training staff is available to travel with the student-athlete to the appointment.

I could cite numerous examples where athletes sought and received a second opinion and where non-UT physicians did surgeries. Several have been done by the James Andrews group (who, by the way, actually requires that someone gets another opinion before they cut and requires that a team trainer accompany a college athlete to the appointments to ensure continuity of care).

I don’t know about a hyperbaric chamber as treatment for the sprains that JG had last year, but there’s only one in the Knoxville area (Parkwest medical Center) and it’s not available for sleeping in overnight.

So, basically, your post was complete uninformed nonsense from start to finish.
I believe he was being sarcastic in stating that JG should sleep in it overnight.
 
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I wonder why our AD department looks down on our athletes getting second second opinions outside of campus. I know JG had some serious nerve issues last season and could never get them resolved, but I spoke with him and he said he has never felt better after going to get some extra help this off season. The beating he has taken, he needs to be sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber. This is one strong example with our starting QB.

The AD department should want the best for our athletes, even is it means looking outside to get a second opinion. Hopefully with more depth we can get over the plague of injuries and last a full season. Go Vols!
Sup 365?
 
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I wonder why our AD department looks down on our athletes getting second second opinions outside of campus. I know JG had some serious nerve issues last season and could never get them resolved, but I spoke with him and he said he has never felt better after going to get some extra help this off season. The beating he has taken, he needs to be sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber. This is one strong example with our starting QB.

The AD department should want the best for our athletes, even is it means looking outside to get a second opinion. Hopefully with more depth we can get over the plague of injuries and last a full season. Go Vols!
Do you recall one of the first things Pruitt did after being hired was replace the medical staff? I believe the kids in our football program are getting better care and it's obvious after one season, they are overall much healthier. I like that the kids can go off campus for treatments if they feel like they need it. See Trey Smith for example.
 
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I don't know that they do. But the chances of a student athlete being able to find better medical prognosis than what the UT AD pays for are slim. Not unheard of but slim.

As far as JG.. hard to imagine 7 months of rest isn't more responsible for him feeling better than whatever slightly modified treatment he was getting.
 
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Do you recall one of the first things Pruitt did after being hired was replace the medical staff? I believe the kids in our football program are getting better care and it's obvious after one season, they are overall much healthier. I like that the kids can go off campus for treatments if they feel like they need it. See Trey Smith for example.
Except he didn’t. They changed out two surgeons as the “primary” ortho docs that UT uses through KOC. Both of the “replaced” surgeons have still treated and operated on multiple athletes since then. One athletic trainer was replaced when he left for another job.

That was the most overblown story because it simply wasn’t reality.

What has changed is that this coaching staff holds players accountable for doing what they’re supposed to with rehab with the athletic trainers. Rehab and training appointments are now treated like missed classes. The last staff had no punishments for missing those and the proof was in the slow rehabs and reinjuries that you saw guys have.
 
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Except he didn’t. They changed out two surgeons as the “primary” ortho docs that UT uses through KOC. Both of the “replaced” surgeons have still treated and operated on multiple athletes since then. One athletic trainer was replaced when he left for another job.

That was the most overblown story because it simply wasn’t reality.

What has changed is that this coaching staff holds players accountable for doing what they’re supposed to with rehab with the athletic trainers. Rehab and training appointments are now treated like missed classes. The last staff had no punishments for missing those and the proof was in the slow rehabs and reinjuries that you saw guys have.
If this is true about the previous staff and players then it is super sad. Staff obviously has a role and it should include good treatment and at least an attempt at motivating athletes to attend

However, an athlete not taking advantage of treatment is not excusable. They have a fill scholarship to get an education AND play football. Missing pre-hab and re-hab treatments is saying " I don't want to play football." Which makes sense considering the last few years on the fiend effort.
 
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Not only does the UTAD, Athletic Training staff and team physicians ENCOURAGE athletes to get a second opinion, but they help facilitate fast tracking of appointments and arrange the travel (at UT’s expense, by the way) to see these specialists, AND a member of the training staff is available to travel with the student-athlete to the appointment.

I could cite numerous examples where athletes sought and received a second opinion and where non-UT physicians did surgeries. Several have been done by the James Andrews group (who, by the way, actually requires that someone gets another opinion before they cut and requires that a team trainer accompany a college athlete to the appointments to ensure continuity of care).

I don’t know about a hyperbaric chamber as treatment for the sprains that JG had last year, but there’s only one in the Knoxville area (Parkwest medical Center) and it’s not available for sleeping in overnight.

So, basically, your post was complete uninformed nonsense from start to finish.
I wonder if internal and external physicians recommended better blocking by the OL?
 
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I was amazed at the violent sacks that Dobbs took and still got up to look at his wrist coach (before they turned him loose). JG has the same moxy, if not the foot skills. I hope he has the great season he so deserves.
 
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Except he didn’t. They changed out two surgeons as the “primary” ortho docs that UT uses through KOC. Both of the “replaced” surgeons have still treated and operated on multiple athletes since then. One athletic trainer was replaced when he left for another job.

That was the most overblown story because it simply wasn’t reality.

What has changed is that this coaching staff holds players accountable for doing what they’re supposed to with rehab with the athletic trainers. Rehab and training appointments are now treated like missed classes. The last staff had no punishments for missing those and the proof was in the slow rehabs and reinjuries that you saw guys have.
DP I totally defer to your knowledge about this. However and for whatever reason, as a lay person on the outside looking in, when he changed the medical people out, we immediately have seen improvements with the overall health of the team. It could have been cosmetic and internal politics along with the change in accountability but when that happened it was a catalyst for health changes for the team to the better IMO.
 
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DP I totally defer to your knowledge about this. However and for whatever reason, as a lay person on the outside looking in, when he changed the medical people out, we immediately have seen improvements with the overall health of the team. It could have been cosmetic and internal politics along with the change in accountability but when that happened it was a catalyst for health changes for the team to the better IMO.
I think the improvements are from proper conditioning and accountability. Jones methods was a disaster.. And it showed. Feel bad for the players that played for him.
 
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I wonder why our AD department looks down on our athletes getting second second opinions outside of campus. I know JG had some serious nerve issues last season and could never get them resolved, but I spoke with him and he said he has never felt better after going to get some extra help this off season. The beating he has taken, he needs to be sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber. This is one strong example with our starting QB.

The AD department should want the best for our athletes, even is it means looking outside to get a second opinion. Hopefully with more depth we can get over the plague of injuries and last a full season. Go Vols!
Could the issue be liability? We all know there are lawyers lying in wait for any chance to sue. (their everywhere, everywhere, even with us on this site) :)
 

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