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Fine Vol

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Is there a current college team who runs this D close to the way Monte can/will run it? From what I hear the key to the Tampa two is to get you QB pressure from a very talented D line. Monte is very respected and he will be a HUGE addition.
 
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Honestly, I can't think of a team that I could say for sure runs it in college.
 
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Do we have a middle linebacker on the roster that would be a good fit for the Tampa 2? I would have thought Nevin McKenzie or Adam Meyers-White would have fit that mold pretty well, but who do you think it will be next year?
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Do we have a middle linebacker on the roster that would be a good fit for the Tampa 2? I would have thought Nevin McKenzie or Adam Meyers-White would have fit that mold pretty well, but who do you think it will be next year?
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Williams(if he can put on the speed), McCoy, and Reveiz?(this one is kind of up for grabs); Rico and Nick would fit pretty well size wise. Gerald might be a little oversized for this defense, but if he can gain a little bit of speed he'd be.
 
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This worries me if we build the defense for Tampa-2.

Exposing the Tampa 2:
A team with a strong running game or a great play-action game can seriously stress the Tampa 2 defensive scheme. If the safety has to stop and think for a split second about a run, the soft spots behind the CBs have opened up again. The Tampa 2 was designed to work against teams that ran a West Coast Offense. Short passes, lots of zone exploitation, and the deep posts, corners, flags, and outs. The Tampa 2 was successful against the West Coast Offense, because West Coast teams don't run as much as they pass. Hence, the Tampa 2 made more sense. The newer types of West Coast Offenses being used by teams like the Denver Broncos, Atlanta Falcons, and Carolina Panthers take full advantage of the run game and play very well against Tampa's defense.
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The Tampa-2 is built to stop West Coast, pro-style offenses. It WILL struggle against misdirection, play action and strong running. If we try to stay in a Tampa-2 against UF's spread option that is built on strong running, misdirection, options, then we'll have problems. (And I want to get back to beating them with regularity.)

Now, I have complete faith that Montie, Coach O, and all the brilliant defensive minds on staff will be able to scheme for each offense we face week-to-week. My question is this: If we recruit to fill a Tampa-2 and then teach the players the Tampa-2 mindset of running to the ball, etc, will we have the personnel/mindsets to change gears and play a more base, assignment defense?
 
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i have a thread floating around here somewhere with some pretty good info in it. called Tampa 2 vs The Spread. i would link it, but i am not sure how to do so.
 
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RockyTopJA said:
Williams(if he can put on the speed), McCoy, and Reveiz?(this one is kind of up for grabs); Rico and Nick would fit pretty well size wise. Gerald might be a little oversized for this defense, but if he can gain a little bit of speed he'd be.
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Gerald will likely move to defensive end, don't you think?
 
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I have a feeling that the reason the spread is not run in the pros is because people have figured out a way to stop it. I have faith that monte would be able to come up with a way to shut it down
 
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ReeceBobby said:
I have a feeling that the reason the spread is not run in the pros is because people have figured out a way to stop it. I have faith that monte would be able to come up with a way to shut it down
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Aspects of the spread are certainly used in the pros. Almost every team uses some aspect of the spread offense. Option plays are easily defended on the NFL level and very seldom used.

I agree. I don't think there is an offense that we will play that Kiffin will not have some answer for.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Gerald will likely move to defensive end, don't you think?
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He moved from DE to LB. Do you think he'd go back to being a DE? We have some good DEs in Martin and Vlad, but I guess another wouldn't hurt. Not trying to be a smart-ass I'm just wondering what your thinking about his situation with the new staff.
 
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I am not a football defense expert but did Chavis not run his defense as a close resemblance to the Tampa 2? Just wondering how different the defense that Berry and company already know will be compared to what the Kiffins bring with them.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
This worries me if we build the defense for Tampa-2.



(from here)

The Tampa-2 is built to stop West Coast, pro-style offenses. It WILL struggle against misdirection, play action and strong running. If we try to stay in a Tampa-2 against UF's spread option that is built on strong running, misdirection, options, then we'll have problems. (And I want to get back to beating them with regularity.)

Now, I have complete faith that Montie, Coach O, and all the brilliant defensive minds on staff will be able to scheme for each offense we face week-to-week. My question is this: If we recruit to fill a Tampa-2 and then teach the players the Tampa-2 mindset of running to the ball, etc, will we have the personnel/mindsets to change gears and play a more base, assignment defense?
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Have you seen a defense that can stop Meyer's spread option?If you have let me know.All defenses have struggled against that scheme.It's a matter of catching up so to speak for any D to counter that offense.
 
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TENNFOLD1974 said:
Have you seen a defense that can stop Meyer's spread option?If you have let me know.All defenses have struggled against that scheme.It's a matter of catching up so to speak for any D to counter that offense.
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See me personally I think its more Tim Tebow than his offense! When he loses Superman than we will see how well his offense moves the ball. Because you gotta think about all those 3rd down and 4th down conversions that Tebow got his offense. He def is not the best passer in the game but he looks like it because Defenses suck into the run and he burns em deep. That is why the jump pass really only works for Tebow, to many teams think he is going to run the ball. He is like a fullback who can throw!
 
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The reason the "spread" isnt used every down in the NFL is cause the QB would be dead after 2 games, no matter how fast/elusive he is. It works as a nice gimmick up there, but when the LB's and DL's all run 4.5's, its a LOT harder to hit those creases that the spread/option relies on.
 
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m37bruno said:
See me personally I think its more Tim Tebow than his offense! When he loses Superman than we will see how well his offense moves the ball. Because you gotta think about all those 3rd down and 4th down conversions that Tebow got his offense. He def is not the best passer in the game but he looks like it because Defenses suck into the run and he burns em deep. That is why the jump pass really only works for Tebow, to many teams think he is going to run the ball. He is like a fullback who can throw!
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This is true to a point...but his offense seemed to be able to carve up teams with Leak...and he was a pro style QB.
 
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RockyTopJA said:
He moved from DE to LB. Do you think he'd go back to being a DE? We have some good DEs in Martin and Vlad, but I guess another wouldn't hurt. Not trying to be a smart-ass I'm just wondering what your thinking about his situation with the new staff.
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Vlad has started at offensive guard for the last 5 games
 
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Fine Vol said:
Is there a current college team who runs this D close to the way Monte can/will run it? From what I hear the key to the Tampa two is to get you QB pressure from a very talented D line. Monte is very respected and he will be a HUGE addition.
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Chavis ran a version of it, the Mustang package
 
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TENNFOLD1974 said:
I wish I could've been wearing your shoes yesterday Justin,It would've been so cool to be at that press conference.
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I can say I've been a part of some memorable moments this season.

The CPF resignation, watching CPF get carried off on players' shoulders and now the Kiffin hire.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The Tampa-2 is built to stop West Coast, pro-style offenses. It WILL struggle against misdirection, play action and strong running. If we try to stay in a Tampa-2 against UF's spread option that is built on strong running, misdirection, options, then we'll have problems. (And I want to get back to beating them with regularity.)
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I've always thought that the Tampa-2 defense was pretty strong against misdirection. Now I've always heard that the best way to beat it was to run up the middle and then go over the top, but you have to have a serious run game to do that.
 
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Jefw said:
I am not a football defense expert but did Chavis not run his defense as a close resemblance to the Tampa 2? Just wondering how different the defense that Berry and company already know will be compared to what the Kiffins bring with them.
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We have most definitely run a simple version of Tampa 2 at times.
 
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