Talent doesn't matter!

[savannahfan]

Ok now that the title has your attention hear me out.

Talent certainly does matter if you want to win the SEC title or go to the college football playoffs. However we aren't in that conversation right now so that isn't my point here.


I firmly believe that when looking at all power 5 programs that ain't in the playoff discussion the difference between talent levels between teams mean very very little when determining the outcome of games. I don't think you can find a measurable talent difference between those level teams successful or not.


Games amongst those level teams are decided by coaching, execution and a teams mental approach. Talent doesn't matter and a teams mental approach or maybe better said confidence is much more important than many think imo.


With that said imo the florida, South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri, and Kentucky games for us will be decided by coaching, execution and the mentality of our team.

Now if CJP is the guy to lead this program in a few years into the upper tier where talent does matter he MUST find a way to win at least 3 of those games. Talent shouldn't even be discussed when playing those games.

Agree,, most upper tier teams have near even talent levels. The difference on the field comes down to who has the most of it. Being 2-3 deep and nearly equal all the way down makes the difference.
To be upper tier the staffs are teaching and coaching nearly equal. At this level recruiting by a staff makes a big difference.

 

[savannahfan]

Florida losing close to UK means we can beat one but not them but not Kentucky?

This team should be much closer to comleteyb understanding the new systems by the UK game than the Fla. game. No reason. to think Kentucky isnt a possible win also if Fla is a possible win.

Anything is possible, but many are unlikely...

 

[savannahfan]

If you look at their recruiting rankings over the last five years, I don’t think that’s the case. Not counting this true frost class here are the rankings for 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014.

Texas A&M
13, 18, 11, 5

Clemson
16, 11, 9, 16

I’m guessing that is not what you expected. Fact is Texas A&M had better recruited talent with its experienced roster. I’d guess that Clemson has had less attrition but I don’t know for sure.
Clemson’s freshman class was ranked 8th and A&M 42 by rivals. I’m not sure how many true freshman played for either team but that may have been the edge.
Dabo has gotten a ton out of his talent. In fact, I’d say they’ve done the best since they’ve won the NC, played in it twice and finished in the top ten in at least one poll five of the last six years.

Here’s the really sad thing. In those same years UT finished 17, 14, 4, 7

So, what does that mean. It means talent and coaching matter. To say it’s one or the other is, well, stupid. It’s both. The players in Clemson’s program have had a superior culture and experience to maximize their potential.

Jimbo is a scary proposition in the West. Look at what he has done out of the gate. I really wish Pruitt had gone with more experienced people on his staff, especially at OC.

Last sentence lets down your whole post. This staff will do just fine. Team mental attitude, program culture,etc. are hard to change after so many have labored over the last few years. As this set of players moves on these things will change.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Last sentence lets down your whole post. This staff will do just fine. Team mental attitude, program culture,etc. are hard to change after so many have labored over the last few years. As this set of players moves on these things will change.

I hate reading these pitiful excuses, You are trying to say previous teams didn't want to win??? B.S.

 

[secking]

Continuity counts as well. Otherwise explain why a team with only 6 4-stars and mostly 2 and 3 stars beat a more talented Vol team? They’ve been in the system and know it, it will take time to gel.

 

[Catfishvfl]

If you look at their recruiting rankings over the last five years, I don’t think that’s the case. Not counting this true frost class here are the rankings for 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014.

Texas A&M
13, 18, 11, 5

Clemson
16, 11, 9, 16

I’m guessing that is not what you expected. Fact is Texas A&M had better recruited talent with its experienced roster. I’d guess that Clemson has had less attrition but I don’t know for sure.
Clemson’s freshman class was ranked 8th and A&M 42 by rivals. I’m not sure how many true freshman played for either team but that may have been the edge.
Dabo has gotten a ton out of his talent. In fact, I’d say they’ve done the best since they’ve won the NC, played in it twice and finished in the top ten in at least one poll five of the last six years.

Here’s the really sad thing. In those same years UT finished 17, 14, 4, 7

So, what does that mean. It means talent and coaching matter. To say it’s one or the other is, well, stupid. It’s both. The players in Clemson’s program have had a superior culture and experience to maximize their potential.

Jimbo is a scary proposition in the West. Look at what he has done out of the gate. I really wish Pruitt had gone with more experienced people on his staff, especially at OC.

Clemson had a couple small classes of i recall high caliber classes just not as many recruits.