Surrendering to our QB situation

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notaguru2

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This probably doesn't require a thread but... considering our QB problem that still persists, it has caused me to recognize and admit how lucky we were to have Casey Clausen. I was never a huge fan of his, but I'd take him right now in a New York minute.
 
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Ummm.... NO. Clausen played behind a very, very good OL. He played with better receivers than UT has now unless a couple have break out seasons. He had bricks for feet... and a barely avg arm. In short, he would have been worse than horrible if he'd been in UT's O last year.
 
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sjt18 said:
Ummm.... NO. Clausen played behind a very, very good OL. He played with better receivers than UT has now unless a couple have break out seasons. He had bricks for feet... and a barely avg arm. In short, he would have been worse than horrible if he'd been in UT's O last year.
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Are you saying Clausen was worse than Crompton? I'd have to disagree with that. I agree he wouldn't have been real effective last year and he played with a lot of talent, but he's still way better than the QBs on our roster now. He was more accurate than Crompton and could make reads.
 
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it might help to identify which Clausen you are talking about (although I would take either at this point)
 
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sjt18 said:
Ummm.... NO. Clausen played behind a very, very good OL. He played with better receivers than UT has now unless a couple have break out seasons. He had bricks for feet... and a barely avg arm. In short, he would have been worse than horrible if he'd been in UT's O last year.
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QB on a two or three very average Vol teams. He was certainly better than Crompton--not even close.
 
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notaguru2 said:
This probably doesn't require a thread but... considering our QB problem that still persists, it has caused me to recognize and admit how lucky we were to have Clausen. I was never a huge fan of his, but I'd take him right now in a New York minute.
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I would take Ainge.
 
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On the surface I agree with you. And IMO both the Clausen boys made up for lack of QB skills with gutsy play and leadership. I think we need to back off the Crompton criticisms goodness knows we've burnt his ears up. Maybe a year of maturization will be enough to be adequate, maybe more?
 
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armchairvol said:
QB on a two or three very average Vol teams. He was certainly better than Crompton--not even close.
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Average? We had some LOADED teams under Casey. He was undefeated in The Swamp. I think he was better than many give him credit for, just not quite as good as he thought he was.
 
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Casey Clausen was a serviceable QB. I don't know why vol fans have such a negative memory of him. All he did was win games. Whether the team around him was "loaded" or not is irrelevant to him playing the most important position on the field and winning games. If we had C. Clausen last season we win more than 5 games for damn sure.
 
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I was tough on Casey too.
But now I am learning be careful what you ask for.
I am still bitter about the 02 season but that wasnt his fault.
 
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I'm not bashing Crompton, I hope the guy has a great year, and the fact he actually received death threats last year is embarrassing and flat ridiculous.

But, to say Crompton is better than Clausen is crazy, IMO. Clausen was 14-1 on the road in the SEC, had the second best numbers in UT history only behind Manning, was tough, calm, and an accurate passer with a decent arm. Crompton threw more balls across the grass in one game last year than Clausen did his entire career.

Again, not bashing Crompton but for him to even come close to what Clausen did while he was here, he is going to have to improve greatly this year, which I hope he does. I realize Clausen had more talent around him, but Ainge was only sacked 3 times with basically the same OL than Crompton played behind last year. I would love to have Casey Clausen back leading UT this season.
 
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Some people on these boards are complete morons. All Clausen did was win for the most part. Just look at his record against our rivals to see what kind of QB he was. He was a gutsy gritty player who had a lot of heart. I would take him as starting QB this year any day over Stephens and Crompton.
 
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IPorange said:
Casey Clausen was a serviceable QB. I don't know why vol fans have such a negative memory of him. All he did was win games. Whether the team around him was "loaded" or not is irrelevant to him playing the most important position on the field and winning games. If we had C. Clausen last season we win more than 5 games for damn sure.
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My point is pretty simple. We've had QB's in recent past that we haven't cared for. We've not known a crisis like we do now in this position. I've grown through watching the wheels come off this program for sure. I don't know if we'll be winners this season or not, but I won't be near as critical of successful players as I have been in past in my social circles. We were once blessed in this position - I hope we can return to it.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Some people on these boards are complete morons. All Clausen did was win for the most part. Just look at his record against our rivals to see what kind of QB he was. He was a gutsy gritty player who had a lot of heart. I would take him as starting QB this year any day over Stephens and Crompton.
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Why are they morons.
Casey had a personality that rubbed some people worng therefore they didnt like him.
His record was good but there are flaws.
he never beat uga
the uf wins were against zook
the road record never included a (starting) trip to LSU

so if you wanted to throw some darts at him you could.
but looking back at the guy i liked him and I wish all our qbs had the heart he had.
 
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Voldaddy said:
Average? We had some LOADED teams under Casey. He was undefeated in The Swamp. I think he was better than many give him credit for, just not quite as good as he thought he was.
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You hit the nail
On the correct
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sjt18 said:
Ummm.... NO. Clausen played behind a very, very good OL. He played with better receivers than UT has now unless a couple have break out seasons. He had bricks for feet... and a barely avg arm. In short, he would have been worse than horrible if he'd been in UT's O last year.
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And then Donte Stallworth and Kelley Washington left. And he still had two of the most productive passing seasons in UT history. Give me a break.
 
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IPorange said:
Casey Clausen was a serviceable QB. I don't know why vol fans have such a negative memory of him. All he did was win games. Whether the team around him was "loaded" or not is irrelevant to him playing the most important position on the field and winning games. If we had C. Clausen last season we win more than 5 games for damn sure.
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Exactly. He wasn't pretty, but all he did was win baby. Believe he beat FL, Michigan, and Miami in the same year. Didn't he win both games at the swamp and own Bama? You are lying if you say you wouldn't take that right now. On another note, I am sure I missed it, but with Montana going to WU, doesn't this help us with Scroggins? What are our chances with Hendrix? Can Brunetti fit the pro-style?
 
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Who would have been Clausen's biggest threat at WR his Sr year? Tony Brown? Leonard Scott? Montrell Jones? Kelley Washington would have been the easy answer but he was limited to 4 games and 23 catches due to injury. Without Washington the best receiver we had on the team was Witten at TE.

That Clausen completed 63% of his passes for 2300yds with that dearth of talent at receiver is actually pretty darn impressive IMO, especially when you consider, IIRC, he had some injury issues of his own.
 
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Axion Jaxion said:
Remind me what NFL team Casey Clausen played for?
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Surely NFL success is the measuring stick of one's ability to win in college. A pro scrub like Tee Martin would be incapable of accomplishing anything at the college level.
 
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