Star ratings of players in Natl Cship

#2
#2
this year is an exception to the rule. recruiting rankings and on field success usually are linked.

i have never seen a team (auburn) achieve the level of success they had by being carried by two individuals. i honestly believe that if you take newton and fairly off of that team, they lose four or five football games.

maybe, georgia in the early 80's with herschel walker would qualify.
 
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99gator said:
i honestly believe that if you take newton and fairly off of that team, they lose four or five football games.
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Totally agree and not a shocker by any means. I think there are a lot of teams where 1 or 2 guys were the difference makers.

Oregon in 2007 is a really good example. #2 in the nation. Front runner for the Heisman. Cruising towards a national title. Back to back victories over Top 10 teams...

Then Dixon goes down.

Lost the last 3 and limped to the finish line, i.e. the Sun Bowl against South Florida :ermm:
 
#4
#4
Auburn has 12 four/five stars to Oregon 7. Only 2 of those seven on defense for Oregon. AU should win big IMO.
 
#5
#5
i look at it as evidence that a wide open offense can get you to a championship game
 
#10
#10
Oh look, another thread trying to justify why Dooleys mediocre class will lead to a conference title. Neat.
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milohimself said:
Oh look, another thread trying to justify why Dooleys mediocre class will lead to a conference title. Neat.
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I hear you. If it stays about the same you could just call it what it is. After everyone is done being patient with him and these type of classes keep coming up at least a few know where it will all end up.

Only problem is it will go on forever, because Tennessee fans for some reason are the most patient, forgiving fans on earth. Might get 5 years to figure out those classes will only get you so far here. Gullible is a good word.
 
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Cartervol said:
I hear you. If it stays about the same you could just call it what it is. After everyone is done being patient with him and these type of classes keep coming up at least a few know where it will all end up.

Only problem is it will go on forever, because Tennessee fans for some reason are the most patient, forgiving fans on earth. Might get 5 years to figure out those classes will only get you so far here. Gullible is a good word.
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This is the thing that none of the people who keep preaching "Give Dooley a chance" seem to understand. If we keep getting outrecruited by 2/3 of the SEC, we're never going to get any better. However, we have an AD who not more than 3 years ago gave a coach who had a NC on his resume a contract that said that 8 wins was not only good enough, but worthy of a raise and an extension. It scares the hell out of me to think about the level of mediocrity that MH would be willing to tolerate from a coach who has never, ever, ever won anything.

I could easily see it being 2014 and us coming off 5 straight 5-7, 6-6 or 7-5 type seasons with trips to the MCB or Liberty Bowl. At that point we're still a few years out from fielding a winner once we hire a decent coach, but we will have wasted the past five years because Hamilton's expectations for our football program are so low.
 
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99gator said:
this year is an exception to the rule. recruiting rankings and on field success usually are linked.
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It's a little misleading to count up the star rankings of the starters, too. I haven't seen the analysis done quite that way, as it usually centers on national recruiting rank of the team and not number of 5* in the first 22.

Auburn's last four classes have been ranked #7, #19, #20, and #4 on rivals, not quite up to recent national champion standards, but pretty damned good (and I'm not sure how Newton fits into that, either.)

Oregon's are not as good, ranked 11, 19, 32, and 13, but are still solid. It's a far cry from the inference in the article that these teams are built from second tier recruits.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
This is the thing that none of the people who keep preaching "Give Dooley a chance" seem to understand. If we keep getting outrecruited by 2/3 of the SEC, we're never going to get any better. However, we have an AD who not more than 3 years ago gave a coach who had a NC on his resume a contract that said that 8 wins was not only good enough, but worthy of a raise and an extension. It scares the hell out of me to think about the level of mediocrity that MH would be willing to tolerate from a coach who has never, ever, ever won anything.

I could easily see it being 2014 and us coming off 5 straight 5-7, 6-6 or 7-5 type seasons with trips to the MCB or Liberty Bowl. At that point we're still a few years out from fielding a winner once we hire a decent coach, but we will have wasted the past five years because Hamilton's expectations for our football program are so low.
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I really don't want to get into specifics about how much of a clueless dweeb Mike Hamilton is. All i can say is, in his time as AD, Tennessee has went from a top ten program to somewhere off the map all together. A school that now gets more pub for the NCAA violations that have occurred than anything meaningful with either program. It's a bad joke, and so is Hamilton as AD.
 
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#16
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Wait, did signing day pass? Do we already know all the players we are getting? Why are people getting their panties in a wad over a recruiting class that we were way behind from the start?
 
#17
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Heard them say on ESPN that 18 of Auburn's starters were signed by Tubberville, and all of Oregons 22 starters were signed by Bellotti.
 
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