Stan Drayton's Coaching?

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Isn't it a coincidence that when Drayton takes over a unit the production goes down. Like our RBs production way down. Also Florida RBs look a lot better without him. So what good is he for us. I think he needs to get the axe no matter what.:wavey:
 
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Drayton may be ok under a new staff. Remember who was running the show CPF and CDC.
 
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1CLKFAN said:
Drayton may be ok under a new staff. Remember who was running the show CPF and CDC.
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Drayton was coaching RBs at Florida and they were horrible. The only reason he got ANY love from recruits was the fact he was at Florida. He's not a good coach, and honestly he's questionable as a recruiter.
 
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I actually think he's a decent recruiter. If CPF was still i imagine he'd have 3 or 4 recruits in the rivals100 right now.
 
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jmva1 said:
I actually think he's a decent recruiter. If CPF was still i imagine he'd have 3 or 4 recruits in the rivals100 right now.
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I don't think so. Here's his target list...

I also think that Kiffin landed Green and Drayton was given credit for it since he was the first to recruit Green last summer. Drayton hasn't landed anyone really.

Also, Drayton's bread and butter was him selling an instate SEC school with an excellent track record over past 10 years. He could have sold just about any recruit in Florida on that.
 

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Meyer ran him off because he couldn't coach. I'm surprised fulmer hired him, regardless of his recruiting ability. UT's running game last year was terrible!
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
I don't think Adrian Peterson could have run behind our line this year.
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He would have done well if Cut was the OC. It's pretty obvious to me that Cut was the only offensive coach to prosper under Fulmer because Fulmer kept his hands off. That's just me though.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
He would have done well if Cut was the OC. It's pretty obvious to me that Cut was the only offensive coach to prosper under Fulmer because Fulmer kept his hands off. That's just me though.
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We all can agree on that but how can we say Drayton is bad when the running game at Florida is not a true running game and here this year we have 1,000,000 more problem than our RB's.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
We all can agree on that but how can we say Drayton is bad when the running game at Florida is not a true running game and here this year we have 1,000,000 more problem than our RB's.
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I agree with you, but there was a reason that Florida's running game prospered this year after Drayton left. I don't think Meyer trusted him to do his job. Drayton was a recruiter for him and nothing more it seems.
 
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VolsRule said:
Meyer ran him off because he couldn't coach. I'm surprised fulmer hired him, regardless of his recruiting ability. UT's running game last year was terrible!
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Meyer did not run him off. He left because he and Urban didn't see eye to eye and he wanted to coach in a system that actually has RBs and not Running QBs and WRs that play RB. You look really stupid when you don't know what you're talking about.
By the way Auburns running game was horrible last year also.
If Gran really is the better coach than i'm all for him. UFs running game isn't better because Drayton left it's because their O-line is alot better this year and they have tremendous athletes.
 
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JMBIGORANGE said:
Meyer did not run him off. He left because he and Urban didn't see eye to eye and he wanted to coach in a system that actually has RBs and not Running QBs and WRs that play RB. You look really stupid when you don't know what you're talking about.
By the way Auburns running game was horrible last year also.
If Gran really is the better coach than i'm all for him. UFs running game isn't better because Drayton left it's because their O-line is alot better this year and they have tremendous athletes.
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They ran a completely different offense last year. Look to the past with Gran's history as a RBs coach and the players that played under him. That right there will tell you that Gran and Drayton are night and day as far as coaching ability.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
He would have done well if Cut was the OC. It's pretty obvious to me that Cut was the only offensive coach to prosper under Fulmer because Fulmer kept his hands off. That's just me though.
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Clawson was the reason NOTHING worked. Not Drayton. You don't get coaching gigs at UF and UT because you suck. Everyone that is saying Drayton sucks just based off last year is pretty moronic. As far as recruiting he was a top 25 recruiter in 06' i believe.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
They ran a completely different offense last year. Look to the past with Gran's history as a RBs coach and the players that played under him. That right there will tell you that Gran and Drayton are night and day as far as coaching ability.
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So did we. I never said Drayton was a better coach than Gran. I just don't think he's as bad as people on here seem to think.
 
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JMBIGORANGE said:
Clawson was the reason NOTHING worked. Not Drayton. You don't get coaching gigs at UF and UT because you suck. Everyone that is saying Drayton sucks just based off last year is pretty moronic. As far as recruiting he was a top 25 recruiter in 06' i believe.
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If that was the case, Clawson would be unemployed and Fulmer would be coaching Bowling Green. Drayton isn't that highly regarded as a coach, and made his name off of recruiting Florida for Meyer for 2 years. Sometimes coaches aren't on staff because of coaching prowess, sometimes it's just for recruiting. I think that Fulmer hired him based on that thought process and Drayton didn't have the same success on the recruiting trail at UT and he did in Florida. There is also a reason he doesn't really have an extended stay anywhere except Villanova. Seeing the drop off of recruiting moving from Florida to UT lets me know that I am on the right track.
 
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JMBIGORANGE said:
Meyer did not run him off. He left because he and Urban didn't see eye to eye and he wanted to coach in a system that actually has RBs and not Running QBs and WRs that play RB. You look really stupid when you don't know what you're talking about.
By the way Auburns running game was horrible last year also.
If Gran really is the better coach than i'm all for him. UFs running game isn't better because Drayton left it's because their O-line is alot better this year and they have tremendous athletes.
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I guess he couldn't coach at West Virginia either because their RBs are the size of Floridas. I don't care if he has to coach WRs to play RB he needs to do it and do itwell. That's what he's getting paid to do.
 
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JMBIGORANGE said:
So did we. I never said Drayton was a better coach than Gran. I just don't think he's as bad as people on here seem to think.
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I didn't see much of a difference. Most everyone else that I have talked to about it that has followed UT football over the years say we didn't either.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
If that was the case, Clawson would be unemployed and Fulmer would be coaching Bowling Green. Drayton isn't that highly regarded as a coach, and made his name off of recruiting Florida for Meyer for 2 years. Sometimes coaches aren't on staff because of coaching prowess, sometimes it's just for recruiting. I think that Fulmer hired him based on that thought process and Drayton didn't have the same success on the recruiting trail at UT and he did in Florida. There is also a reason he doesn't really have an extended stay anywhere except Villanova. Seeing the drop off of recruiting moving from Florida to UT lets me know that I am on the right track.
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Everyone here semms to think Gonzales is a great recruiter but couldn't you say the same about him. He's just riding Meyers coattails. As far as having the same success at UT as he did at UF that is a stupid assumption. UF is surrounded by talent. UT has to cross state lines many times over to get talent. Any top recruiter will have more success at UF than UT.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
I guess he couldn't coach at West Virginia either because their RBs are the size of Floridas. I don't care if he has to coach WRs to play RB he needs to do it and do itwell. That's what he's getting paid to do.
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How do you know he didn't do it well? Our offensive line was horrible among other things. If you know football you have to have an adaquate O-Line and a decent passing game to run the ball. We had neither. Get back to me when you can make some sense.
 
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JMBIGORANGE said:
Everyone here semms to think Gonzales is a great recruiter but couldn't you say the same about him. He's just riding Meyers coattails. As far as having the same success at UT as he did at UF that is a stupid assumption. UF is surrounded by talent. UT has to cross state lines many times over to get talent. Any top recruiter will have more success at UF than UT.
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When we were involved in SEC Championships and BCS bowls, the talent sure seemed to want to cross those borders. I think that Florida is having success because of the 2 NC's and SEC championships Meyer has won since he has been at Florida. Gonzalez probably is a better coach than Drayton since he has been rumored as an OC candidate more than once. Drayton hasn't been offered that in the past to my knowledge. Nothing is more effective in recruiting as winning and having coaches that can develop solid relationships. Drayton told Giles to look elsewhere, that right there tells me that he needs to go even though he had to retract that statement.
 
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