Space Exploration

Are NASA's future missions and budget justified?

  • It's worth the time and expenditures

    Votes: 225 66.2%

  • Complete waste of money

    Votes: 41 12.1%

  • We need to explore, but not at the current cost

    Votes: 74 21.8%
  • Total voters
    340
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CagleMtnVol said:
Why?

The vast majority of launches will be from Cape Canaveral. That's a little over 500 miles from Huntsville compared to the over 1,500 from Cheyenne Mtn./Colorado Springs. That's a lot closer for travel back and fourth by Space Force Command/Personal.
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I don't know, maybe because the infrastructure is already there and we aren't going to spend [waste] billions more on bloated defense contracts to move something that's already established?

Look, Air Force Space Command was headquartered at Peterson AFB since 1983 and they monitored those launches fine for 40+ years. Your argument that they're closer to the Cape doesn't hold water.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump said he did this in part because Colorado has mail in voting. You cannot make this nonsense up. Trump said it. Idiot.
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doesn't change the fact that Biden ditched Huntsville - apparently as a shot at Tuberville for his fillibuster and Alabama's general redness.

the analysis said it should be in Huntsville and Biden ignored it for political reasons.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I don't know, maybe because the infrastructure is already there and we aren't going to spend [waste] billions more on bloated defense contracts to move something that's already established?

Look, Air Force Space Command was headquartered at Peterson AFB since 1983 and they monitored those launches fine for 40+ years. Your argument that they're closer to the Cape doesn't hold water.
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Huntsville still has Marshall Spaceflight Center that oversees on orbit operations.
 
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volinbham said:
doesn't change the fact that Biden ditched Huntsville - apparently as a shot at Tuberville for his fillibuster and Alabama's general redness.

the analysis said it should be in Huntsville and Biden ignored it for political reasons.
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See, I disagree here. Where it is/was located is a pretty reliably red stronghold in Colorado. Unfortunately the state has become much like Illinois that Denver controls the state's elections. Anyway...

The big thing I have issues with are the "analysts" that thought moving to Alabama was a good idea. You see, I was at Peterson AFB when they consolidated all the services space forces there and spent billions of dollars to do it. But suddenly it's a good idea to spend billions more on new facilities and uprooting thousands of service members and their families and dropping them into an area that might not be able to support that massive influx? Especially when the infrastructure already exists albeit in a "blue" state?

Which of those analysts are getting rich off construction contracts in Aniston?

This is one of those situations where the Biden Admin made the right call, maybe for the wrong reasons, but the right call because it was going to be cheaper to keep the existing facilities.
 
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Totally sidestepping the political side of this story; I was so happy to see the reconciliation between Musk and Trump Sunday night. Not for any reason related to politics in general; but because this removes what could have been a real hindrance to SpaceX and their most important job; getting humanity onto other worlds.
Mars, here we come!
I love rockets
 
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Disturbing info about 3I/Atlas. I find it also very strange that there:

-There have been so many UAPs in Denmark that airports were closed and the PM had to address the nation.
-Feds had to announce an "incident" involving US aircraft above Area 51
-Recent UAP sightings, New Jersey etc.



Is it time to purchase the tin foil hat?
 
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Tman44 said:
Disturbing info about 3I/Atlas. I find it also very strange that there:

-There have been so many UAPs in Denmark that airports were closed and the PM had to address the nation.
-Feds had to announce an "incident" involving US aircraft above Area 51
-Recent UAP sightings, New Jersey etc.



Is it time to purchase the tin foil hat?
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I feel like this is saying a whole lot of nothing, to really not say all that much at all.

1, 2, 3, & 6 are all pretty much the same point. it has a different chemical make up than we are USED to seeing. note that they don't ever claim we have NEVER seen this make up before, or anything similar. also the heavier/different nickel presence would change the rest of the off gassing. like I said, this is really 1 point, they broke down into four to make it seem more "alien". we have no reason to think what is normal on earth is normal ANYWHERE else; if anything science tends to point to earth being the cosmic anomaly with advanced life. different than what we are used to seeing does not equal, must have been made by aliens.

#4, that is just one, and the largest, ESTIMATION of its size. others have it not nearly as large, I bet we see the estimates change multiple times by large amounts.

so #5 is a laughably bad take. we know its an interstellar body, meaning not from this solar system. Yet #5 brings up the point that it isn't following the standard motions of bodys from this solar system. well yeah, we already knew it came from outside our solar system, why would we ever expect it to follow OUR standards?

also on number #5, they note the astronomical odds of the path it takes, but fail to note that that is more due to the planets being more aligned than they normally are. a good percentage of those odds are just based on the cycles of our solar system and have nothing to do with the interstellar object itself. again they are making a bigger point while not telling the whole story to make it seem more alien.
www.usatoday.com

The final planet parade of 2025 starts this weekend: Here's how you can view it

The last planetary alignment of 2025 will occur August 10 with four planets visible to the naked eye.
www.usatoday.com

#7 they note is speculation. and the polarization and other things would likely be tied to the chemical make up.
 
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