Sorry, I'm going against the crowd

[Titans4Vols]

And saying, this isn't Fulmers fault. Should he be responsible for hiring such a horrid o-coord? Yeah. But he saw potential, and it hasn't worked. I know, with an offense that has Foster, Creer, Hardesty, Jones, Taylor, great o-line, etc, we should be putting massive amounts of points, and we're not. 2 Years ago, with Coach Cut as O Coord, Crompton looked like another great QB, and it was looking like losing Ainge wouldn't be much of a drop off.

Buuuuuuuuuuuut. We lose Coach Cut when Crompton finally starts, and he gets hit with a completely new offense, completely new everything. Clawson makes him throw it 50 times a game, when our run game is very much dominant, and had we run it 30-40 times a game, we'd be 4-1 or undefeated this year. Fulmer doesn't call the plays. Clawson does. I really wish we had kept Trooper Taylor too, what a great man he was, great motivator.

Fulmer has brought us bowl games all but 1 year. And its been what, 16 years now? How can you complain about that? Oh, we don't get in the national championship game every year, we should fire him. Good lord. We play in the toughest conference year in and year out. We're not gonna win it every year. But we've contended each year but one of those 16 years.

I have to say, we have some of the worst fans, as far as being pleased goes. A good 60-70 teams wish they could be as successful as us, year in and year out. We can still turn this season around, and if we take away the play calling from Clawson, I think we can. Maybe Stephens will give this team a lift. I dunno.

Maybe he's a better fit then Crompton at QB. Maybe he's who we need to run this type of offense. But I still think we should pass 20 times, run it 40. We have 3 backs who would be starting on basically any team in America. If we win this week vs Georgia, I see a turn-around coming. If not, 7-5 at best.

We can still make a season out of this.

 

[BleedinOrange]

You are very very confused, or very very mislead

 

[Titans4Vols]

You are very very confused, or very very mislead

No. I just see the whole picture. Clawson is this teams problem.

 

[BleedinOrange]

Lol, you see the whole picture that CPF more than likely changes 45% of Clawson's plays before they hit the field?

 

[Titans4Vols]

Lol, you see the whole picture that CPF more than likely changes 45% of Clawson's plays before they hit the field?

I'd like proof of that.

 

[BleedinOrange]

Go look at spring videos, what our offense looked like. Then look at what happens on the field during games this year. Then tell me whats different this year from last year. Then explain why Fulmer had all the players change wrist bands at half-time of the UCLA game. lots of thens huh?

 

[Titans4Vols]

Spring videos? Our offense looked awful in the spring. What I'm saying is, Fulmer may not be the best coach in the NCAA, but if we fire him, do you really know, that for sure, we'll be as successful as he made us these 16 some odd years? Really?

 

[BleedinOrange]

Um, our offense looked much better in the spring. Not sure which videos you were watching. As for firing him and getting some young-blood coach in here, of course we will have a down year or so (see Alabama) As for how successful we have been these last 16 years could you please tell me what we have done in the last 10 of those 16?

 

[Titans4Vols]

1998 Tennessee 13–0 8-0 1st (East) W Fiesta 1 1
1999 Tennessee 9–3 6-2 2nd (East) L Fiesta 9 9
2000 Tennessee 8–4 5-3 T-2nd (East) L Cotton 25 —
2001 Tennessee 11–2 7-1 1st (East) W Florida Citrus 4 4
2002 Tennessee 8–5 5–3 3rd L Peach — —
2003 Tennessee 10–3 6–2 T-1st (East) $ L Peach 16 15
2004 Tennessee 10–3 7–1 1st W Cotton 15 13
2005 Tennessee 5–6 3–5 T-4th (East) No Bowl Appearance — —
2006 Tennessee 9–4 5–3 2nd (East) L Outback 23 25
2007 Tennessee 10–4 6–2 T-1st (East) W Outback 12 12
2008 Tennessee 2–3 0–2 6th (East) TBD — —

 

[kidbourbon]

No. I just see the whole picture. Clawson is this teams problem.

bwahahahahahaha. Yes, blame it on the new guy. Don't blame it on the head coach who hasn't been able to put together a decent offense without David Cutcliffe. Solid analysis. You should get a radio show.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Fulmer has brought us bowl games all but 1 year. And its been what, 16 years now? How can you complain about that?

So your goal is to be one of the top 60 or so teams in college football every year, huh? Awesome. Aim high.

 

[kidbourbon]

You are very very confused, or very very mislead

Or both.

 

[BleedinOrange]

This is 2008, so 98' does not count in the 10 years. I for one dont get too excited about SEC East Banners. But ok buddy. I guess we could fire Dave Clawson, bring in another guy who CPF turns into a puppet. Give CPF an extension and make another 10 year run at mediocrity. :toast:

 

[Titans4Vols]

It seems like it's just a bunch of fans who expect undefeated seasons year in and year out.

" bwahahahahahaha. Yes, blame it on the new guy. Don't blame it on the head coach who hasn't been able to put together a decent offense without David Cutcliffe. Solid analysis. You should get a radio show. "

No excuse for this poor of an offensive showing when you have talent that any decent O-Coord would turn in to a championship caliber offense.

 

[Titans4Vols]

I'm not Fulmer's biggest fan, but we're not gonna get much better then him right now. Sorry.

 

[BleedinOrange]

I'm not Fulmer's biggest fan, but we're not gonna get much better then him right now. Sorry.

I think you need to do some serious research about what your posting before you post it man. Serious. CPF is a terrible game day coach, and this is the most unmotivated, undiscplined team i have ever seen in my life. Thats not Dave Clawsons fault

 

[kidbourbon]

It seems like it's just a bunch of fans who expect undefeated seasons year in and year out.

" bwahahahahahaha. Yes, blame it on the new guy. Don't blame it on the head coach who hasn't been able to put together a decent offense without David Cutcliffe. Solid analysis. You should get a radio show. "

No excuse for this poor of an offensive showing when you have talent that any decent O-Coord would turn in to a championship caliber offense.

Or it could be a bunch of fans who simply don't expect us to be pure garbage.

First of all, we don't have near as much talent on the offensive side of the ball as several other SEC teams. Nonetheless, there is still no excuse for our poor performance. But Fulmer is to blame. He's the top guy. To deny the direction the program has been heading under Fulmer is to either be fulmer's press secretary or to have some weird homoerotic attraction to the man. I'm hoping for the former.

 

[kidbourbon]

I think you need to do some serious research about what your posting before you post it man. Serious. CPF is a terrible game day coach, and this is the most unmotivated, undiscplined team i have ever seen in my life. Thats not Dave Clawsons fault

Yeah, I think the best option is to either ignore his posts or response in pure gibberish. The posts from titans4vols are obviously not written by a man who has the ability to formulate and complete a coherent thought of his own.

 

[vol4life14]

why does it seem when we have coach cut calling plays are offense looks so good...u know y b/c coach cut would not allow fulmer to touch his plays. so wat we r seeing is fulmer plau calling and not coach clawson... the problem is at the top the soner everybody realizes this the better

 

[Titans4Vols]

I love how everyone here insults. Can't debate like human beings can you?

As I've said, I'm not Fulmer's biggest fan, but everyone blames every single problem on him, and it's not all of his fault. Clawson deserves a lot of it as well. I highly doubt Fulmer touches the plays, and honestly, till I get proof, I'm not going to believe it. So, say, we fire Fulmer. Who do we get, that will do everything he has done in 16 years?

 

[vol4life14]

i say we get will muschamp... has a fire and intensity no body can match would make r d- fense even better... and bring back some youth into the program

 

[Titans4Vols]

Our defense is fine, we don't need a defensive minded coach.

 

[gsvol]

Fulmer has brought us bowl games all but 1 year. And its been what, 16 years now? How can you complain about that?

I have to say, we have some of the worst fans, as far as being pleased goes. A good 60-70 teams wish they could be as successful as us, year in and year out.

We can still make a season out of this.

Fulmer and Nebraska legend Tom Osborne are the only coaches to lead a team to a bowl game in their first 13 years of coaching.

A record of 45-5 from 1995-98, the most victories over a four-year span in school history.

Fulmer has nine 10 or more win seasons in 15 full seasons .600 per cent lifetime.

UT with Fulmer at the helm has won eastern division of SEC in 1993, 1997, 1998, 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2007, or .467, nearly every other year.

Most successful coaches in SEC history by winning percentage:

1. Robert Neyland,.. 173-31-12, .829, Tennessee,......... 1926-1952

2. Bear Bryant,..... 323-85-17, .780, Kentucky/Alabama,.. 1945-1982

3. Phil Fulmer,..... 147-45-0, .766 Tennessee,......... 1992-2007

4. John Vaught,..... 190-61-12, .745, Mississippi,....... 1947-1973

5. Steve Spurrior,.. 163-56-2, .740 Duke/Florida/USC,...1989-2007

6. Vince Dooley,.... 201-77-10, .715, Georgia,........... 1964-1988

7. Bobby Dodd,...... 165-64-8, .713, Georgia Tech,...... 1945-1966

By total wins:
1. Bear Bryant,..... 323-85-17, .780, Kentucky/Alabama,.. 1945-1982

2. Vince Dooley,.... 201-77-10, .715, Georgia,........... 1964-1988

3. John Vaught,..... 190-61-12, .745, Mississippi,....... 1947-1973

4. Robert Neyland,.. 173-31-12, .829, Tennessee,......... 1926-1952

5. Bobby Dodd,...... 165-64-8, .713, Georgia Tech,...... 1945-1966

6. Steve Spurrior,.. 163-56-2, .742 Duke/Florida/USC,...1989-2007

7. Phil Fulmer,..... 147-45-0, .766 Tennessee,......... 1992-2007

Number of wins minus losses for top SEC HCs:
(not counting any ties)
1. Bryant.... 238
2. Neyland... 142
3. Dooley.... 134
4. Vaught.... 129
5. Spurrier.. 107
6. Fulmer.... 102
7. Dodd...... 101

Fulmer joined an elite coaching list in 2007 when his career record improved to 100 games over the .500 mark. Currently 147-45, Fulmer joins Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, Jim Tressel, Steve Spurrier, Chris Ault and Frank Beamer as the only active coaches in that fraternity.

And Fulmer’s 16 seasons of coaching are the fewest of the seven owning that distinction. (actually 15 and 1/3 seasons)

Seventh in all time wins by any SEC coach in history.

A look at current SEC coaching competition:

Overall coaching record: 1,075 wins-595 losses, .644

47 bowl wins,
five National Titles, (plus Auburn's 14/0 season that should
be considered equal to a national title.)
18 conference championships,
five Coach of the Year Awards

Six coaches have over 100 career wins;
(Tuberville, Spurrier, Fulmer, Saban, Rich Brooks, and Houston Nutt) and three more (Richt, Meyer, and Miles) will surpass that mark in the next three to four years with ease. (and Johnson at Vandy is one of the very best coaches in college football, he just won't be getting to 100 wins all that soon, considering what he has
to work with, his 5-0 record this year says volumes.)

In addition, the SEC coaches have racked up their wins in major conference football, rather than lower divisions as others have.

10+ Win Seasons for SEC Powers Since 2000:

Georgia -- 5
Louisiana St -- 5
Tennessee -- 4
Florida -- 3 (in 3 years Meyer has one 10 win season.)
(and we beat Spurrior in one of their 10 win seasons)
Auburn -- 2
Alabama -- 2
Arkansas -- 1

SEC East champions last 10 years.
Tennessee 5 - 98,01,03t,04,07t
Florida 4 - 99,00,03t,06
Georgia 4 - 02,03,05,07t

A ten win season in 2008 might not be proable but it is still possible.

You are very very confused, or very very mislead

You meant "misled?"

You ever think you could be confused yourself??

 

[Titans4Vols]

Wow GSVol, I applaud you.

 

[BleedinOrange]

Lol you would. Hes on 80% of the people on this boards ignore list and just joined mine , forgive me for making a spelling error at 2:30 in the morning, get a life. He is also one with a love for never winning Championships. And nobody is insulting you, read around these boards and see that there is a ton of information out there about new coaches and everything. We are not just ignorant rednecks screaming about getting the fat guy out.