So some boosters will not allow their planes to be used

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If this is true, then this would be the reason for a head coach, any head coach, to leave the moment an equal opportunity came along.

Any coach can handle fan grumbling on the internet. Getting your back stabbed by big-money boosters/administrators who are supposed to be helping you, on the other hand, is difficult to accept.
 
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You know how much it cost to operate a private jet? We're not talking about tennessee football. I could understand if we were.
 
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mdrew27 said:
You know how much it cost to operate a private jet? We're not talking about tennessee football. I could understand if we were.
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If we were talking about a program that averaged 5-7,000 per game, then I could sympathize with your argument.

But this is a top 10-15 program in terms of basketball attendance every year. It has made the Sweet 16 four times in eight years. It has the decided potential to fill the coffers for a cash-hungry Athletic Department with up-front investment.

You can't run a top-level basketball program on the cheap and expect basketball fans to continue to support the program as they have been doing recently. Eventually it catches up to you and you end up losing money in a sport where Tennessee can and should generate much-needed revenue.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
They're the ones who financially allow us to hire and fire coaches at will (when necessary, mind you). Not you and I.
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So now I know where the problem lies. Based on the past 7-8 years, this has been a real problem wouldn't you agree? Again, big money boosters have too much influence. Guess we don't need season ticket holders and donors anymore , huh?
 
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If true those "Big $" aren't worth their Money in my opinion. To hamstring any HC with these types of sanctions just tells you the AD was not letting CCM go. It also tells you all you need to know about the fracture at the top of UT athletics.
 
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Martin has used one specific booster plane multiple times. But go ahead and act like you know differently. Typical vn. Overreact and assume when actually clueless.

And a simple fyi, if a plane is not in town, it's hard to use it and other options become necessary.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled drama.
 
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sanddune50 said:
So idiot donors pulling planes making it difficult to recruit is ok with you? I wish the 36K would find a new team. My guess is that most of them never accomplished anything athletically to be considered credible to speak on any topic. Most of the time it's so called popular kids who grew up with a silver spoon in their ASS based on what their daddy did. That or old farts that haven't picked up a basketball since they switched from a peach basket.
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fixed your post
 
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zansdad said:
I wonder how big a deal this really was from a recruiting standpoint. It's my understanding that there are more than a few high dollar donors that make their planes available to coaches. As long as it was only one or 2 donors pulling support I can't see how this is anything but someone trying to fan the fire, so to speak. It's not like these guys were slumming it on MegaBus or something.
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I look at this as a rumor. Since there has been little to back up this up, it's nothing until names are dropped. IMO, it is just another installment of "As the Stomach Turns"
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Martin has used one specific booster plane multiple times. But go ahead and act like you know differently. Typical vn. Overreact and assume when actually clueless.

And a simple fyi, if a plane is not in town, it's hard to use it and other options become necessary.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled drama.
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Sparty, I would like to know how many big $$$ donors have their own planes and how many of those "loan" them to the university for basketball recruiting and with what frequency.

It is not inexpensive to fuel and operate a private plane and I would assume that said donors use the plane(s) for primarily business purposes.
 
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patrick said:
Sparty, I would like to know how many big $$$ donors have their own planes and how many of those "loan" them to the university for basketball recruiting and with what frequency.

It is not inexpensive to fuel and operate a private plane and I would assume that said donors use the plane(s) for primarily business purposes.
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I don't know. Whomever has one while business is good. Thing is they are planes for other uses, their own use, their own business use, company board member use. Just because a coach says I need your plane doesn't mean you say yes sir and drive it over. Boosters get pissed all the time and hold funds or pull their use. That's been happening since as long as I remember.
Acting like the guys spending more $ than most can fathom are going to do something that may prevent a good recruit from signing with TN is typical naïve VN.
Common sense goes nowhere here.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I don't know. Whomever has one while business is good. Thing is they are planes for other uses, their own use, their own business use, company board member use. Just because a coach says I need your plane doesn't mean you say yes sir and drive it over. Boosters get pissed all the time and hold funds or pull their use. That's been happening since as long as I remember.
Acting like the guys spending more $ than most can fathom are going to do something that may prevent a good recruit from signing with TN is typical naïve VN.
Common sense goes nowhere here.
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agreed.
 
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GiveHimSixGoVols said:
For BB recruiting trips.

Coaches have been forced to go commercial for the last month at least.

This can't be good.
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don't think that is completely accurate.

Some boosters asked that their planes not be used. There were other boosters that still let their planes be used. Even with all planes available, there are always times coaches go commercial.

Coaches have not been forced to fly commercial due to some plans not being available..
 
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LWSVOL said:
don't think that is completely accurate.

Some boosters asked that their planes not be used. There were other boosters that still let their planes be used. Even with all planes available, there are always times coaches go commercial.

Coaches have not been forced to fly commercial due to some plans not being available..
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Thank you, LWS. I think this impacted pride (and rightfully so) more than actual operations.
 
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germanicus said:
Thank you, LWS. I think this impacted pride (and rightfully so) more than actual operations.
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I think those that told the AD they were with holding use were trying to force them to take a look at Pearl. They just didn't have enough power to make it happen.

But it is a sign of less support for the basketball staff.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I think those that told the AD they were with holding use were trying to force them to take a look at Pearl. They just didn't have enough power to make it happen.

But it is a sign of less support for the basketball staff.
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You know it's not uncommon for boosters, especially the newer $, to hold off on plane usage and addtl donations to the ath dept while teams and programs are underperforming.
It's been that was forever.
 
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