So I'm reading all this...

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trying to decipher fact from assumption or fiction. It's a lot to go through...and I've been trying to keep up with news reports. I agree it's all an unfortunate mess.

The deal, though, is this. We will always have these incidents, sometimes with longer periods in between, but we'll have them. And so will most other major programs. It's life unfortunately.

We're always going to want our student athletes to represent us well. Some will, some will not. Sometimes it will be because of upbringing and environment but most times it'll just be because someone made poor choices in the heat of a moment. We should appreciate the ones who don't get in any trouble even more than we do. But look how much time and energy and ink is ever spent on that.

Most of you know that my son was involved in a similar incident when he was here, though there were no major injuries. His choices, as he will now tell you, had nothing to do with how he was raised. He was young and dumb. He was drinking before he was legally old enough and he got into a mess that got him arrested, suspended and embarrassed himself and his team and program.

We were talking about all this last night and he has totally changed his stand. In college, he was prepared to protect his teammates, even to the point of being arrested himself. Now, he says he wouldn't do that. He has too much to lose and he tells everyone, including his own brother, that if they go to a club and something goes down, he will not participate. He'll leave before he throws away his career on some nonsense. His future matters more to him than what any friend thinks of him now. Back then, he admits he wasn't mature enough to grasp that. As surprised as I was to hear that, I was relieved. And the only difference is that he's matured enough to understand the permanency of consequences. He could've thrown his future away in college with the thinking he had then, but he isn't willing to do it now because he's smarter.

Most young people live by a code of conduct that many grown folks don't understand. And that is, if one of my friends gets confronted, we'll all go down before we let him get hit. It isn't smart but it's how it is.

Anyway, I think all this is disturbing...the level to which it has turned out. I hope that the ones who wind up in permanent trouble over this learn their lessons. And I hope the ones watching it do as well.

All of us need some football.
 
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trying to decipher fact from assumption or fiction. It's a lot to go through...and I've been trying to keep up with news reports. I agree it's all an unfortunate mess.

The deal, though, is this. We will always have these incidents, sometimes with longer periods in between, but we'll have them. And so will most other major programs. It's life unfortunately.

We're always going to want our student athletes to represent us well. Some will, some will not. Sometimes it will be because of upbringing and environment but most times it'll just be because someone made poor choices in the heat of a moment. We should appreciate the ones who don't get in any trouble even more than we do. But look how much time and energy and ink is ever spent on that.

Most of you know that my son was involved in a similar incident when he was here, though there were no major injuries. His choices, as he will now tell you, had nothing to do with how he was raised. He was young and dumb. He was drinking before he was legally old enough and he got into a mess that got him arrested, suspended and embarrassed himself and his team and program.

We were talking about all this last night and he has totally changed his stand. In college, he was prepared to protect his teammates, even to the point of being arrested himself. Now, he says he wouldn't do that. He has too much to lose and he tells everyone, including his own brother, that if they go to a club and something goes down, he will not participate. He'll leave before he throws away his career on some nonsense. His future matters more to him than what any friend thinks of him now. Back then, he admits he wasn't mature enough to grasp that. As surprised as I was to hear that, I was relieved. And the only difference is that he's matured enough to understand the permanency of consequences. He could've thrown his future away in college with the thinking he had then, but he isn't willing to do it now because he's smarter.

Most young people live by a code of conduct that many grown folks don't understand. And that is, if one of my friends gets confronted, we'll all go down before we let him get hit. It isn't smart but it's how it is.

Anyway, I think all this is disturbing...the level to which it has turned out. I hope that the ones who wind up in permanent trouble over this learn their lessons. And I hope the ones watching it do as well.

All of us need some football.

Isn't it amazing what an experience teaches us? No matter how much or or how many times or what those older people told us, nothing makes us see the light like going through an experience.

Hopefully, some of our young men will learn a lot from the other night, before it is too late.

Tell those young'uns I said hi. :)
 
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I totally agree with you Miss Foster, I think we have all had that time in our lives where were dumb and immature and made some bad mistakes. The only difference is these kids represent the University of Tennessee and are put to a higher standard. I think everybody deserves a second chance (depending on actions) to get straightned out. For some it only takes once and for others it never sinks in the opportunity before them. 10 years later it will hit them and they can never have that time back....one thing is for sure...WE DO NEED FOOTBALL!!
 
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Reminds me of an old saying.

"When I was sixteen my old man was so stupid I couldn't stand to have him around. When I reached twenty one I was amazed at how much he had learned in five years."
 
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Heres to hoping we see Arian starting nest year. Hes running with first team offense in camps.
 
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trying to decipher fact from assumption or fiction. It's a lot to go through...and I've been trying to keep up with news reports. I agree it's all an unfortunate mess.

The deal, though, is this. We will always have these incidents, sometimes with longer periods in between, but we'll have them. And so will most other major programs. It's life unfortunately.

We're always going to want our student athletes to represent us well. Some will, some will not. Sometimes it will be because of upbringing and environment but most times it'll just be because someone made poor choices in the heat of a moment. We should appreciate the ones who don't get in any trouble even more than we do. But look how much time and energy and ink is ever spent on that.

Most of you know that my son was involved in a similar incident when he was here, though there were no major injuries. His choices, as he will now tell you, had nothing to do with how he was raised. He was young and dumb. He was drinking before he was legally old enough and he got into a mess that got him arrested, suspended and embarrassed himself and his team and program.

We were talking about all this last night and he has totally changed his stand. In college, he was prepared to protect his teammates, even to the point of being arrested himself. Now, he says he wouldn't do that. He has too much to lose and he tells everyone, including his own brother, that if they go to a club and something goes down, he will not participate. He'll leave before he throws away his career on some nonsense. His future matters more to him than what any friend thinks of him now. Back then, he admits he wasn't mature enough to grasp that. As surprised as I was to hear that, I was relieved. And the only difference is that he's matured enough to understand the permanency of consequences. He could've thrown his future away in college with the thinking he had then, but he isn't willing to do it now because he's smarter.

Most young people live by a code of conduct that many grown folks don't understand. And that is, if one of my friends gets confronted, we'll all go down before we let him get hit. It isn't smart but it's how it is.

Anyway, I think all this is disturbing...the level to which it has turned out. I hope that the ones who wind up in permanent trouble over this learn their lessons. And I hope the ones watching it do as well.

All of us need some football.

Isn't it great when a parent sees their child grow past that troublesome age and begin to show the wisdom in their lives that lets you know that they get it and that they have become someone that you, as a parent, can be proud of raising?

Amen, and good job, fostermom! :good!:
 
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This is an excellent post coming from a mother of a former player who found himself in a very similar situation while he was in college. I think a lot of our players are doing things the right way and should be praised but unfortunately that doesnt happen. I hope the VFL foundation will help remind these kids that they are there to lay the foundation for the rest of their careers. If they hear these first account stories from former players who have been in the same situation, and how close they were to not being where they are now if they had not changed their way of thinking. Coach Dooley has his hands full with this but with the right leadership within the team this should make our team a lot more aware of how to avoid these situations in the future. Go Vols!
 
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Not gonna lie FMom, I got chill bumps reading your post. I think you hit the nail on the head. Great to hear that Arian "gets it". Hope he gets a chance in the fall, love to see him be the feature back. In all seriousness, is it a possibility that Arian could reach out to DD/Lott and speak to these guys a couple times? Or maybe even email/txt/phone some "trouble" guys and five them a first hand account of the landscape they face? Might help coming from a guy 2-3 yrs removed from a similar situation and now in the league. Just a thought.
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When people see these situations with these young adults, they need to step back and ask how it would feel to see their own child in the situation. As a father of a 22 and a 19 year old, I can tell you the outlook is different when you are looking from the inside. Kids do dumb things. Paying the price for their actions will be a great education for them. If they are not guilty of a felony, I am all for giving them a second chance with some stipulations.

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Thank you so much for this contribution
I agree that arian could help the vols for life program but I think young guys will listen even more after what I expect will be a very successful season for him.
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Nicely said Miss Foster.

Kids will be kids. When I was 18 I thought I knew everything. Looking back now I didn't know squat. I hope the cop fully recovers, truth comes out and DD does what needs to be done.

It's guys like Arian that these guys should look up to. He made his mistakes, learned and became a better man. I bet you are very proud of him, As are we. Best of luck to him for the upcoming season.

Go Vols!
 
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Not gonna lie FMom, I got chill bumps reading your post. I think you hit the nail on the head. Great to hear that Arian "gets it". Hope he gets a chance in the fall, love to see him be the feature back. In all seriousness, is it a possibility that Arian could reach out to DD/Lott and speak to these guys a couple times? Or maybe even email/txt/phone some "trouble" guys and five them a first hand account of the landscape they face? Might help coming from a guy 2-3 yrs removed from a similar situation and now in the league. Just a thought.
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Great idea, :eek:k:
 
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True enough, but in this case, it went a bit beyond a typical bar fight and worse...an off duty cop was injured. Circumstances may make this one a bit more painful than immature college kids getting rowdy with one another. As you pointed out, not the first and most certainly won't be the last. Still hard to swallow for some.
 
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Good post fostermom. Glad to see Arian is doing well. Maybe you can go to Knoxville and talk with the kids as well.
 

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