Smith, Jumper & Sapp in the mix for Vols' 3rd LB spot

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
LBs better be DKjr at Will, Bituli at Mike, and Austin at Sam.

Anything else would be irresponsible.
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Yeah. Because you are SO much smarter than Shoop.

Shoop is trying to get to a D that looks more like what he did at Vandy and PSU... where he succeeded in stopping teams with more talent than he had. You'd do well to watch and learn rather than making an absolute fool out of yourself... again.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
LBs better be DKjr at Will, Bituli at Mike, and Austin at Sam.

Anything else would be irresponsible.
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yeah, cause DK has shown so much lateral speed.....

DK is built for the middle. Thig is right about one thing....those longer, more athletic bodies work better outside so they can cover more ground, especially sideline to sideline, setting the edge etc...

body type alone, DB, DK and CJ are "built" for the middle. Sapp, Smith, Reed "look" like outside backers.

3 to play 1, and 3 to play 2. and that's the problem. if you want to have a 2 deep at all three, someone is likely going to be playing out of position. and that somebody is most likely Jumper, if you read between the lines in what Thig said.

not sure where CM and KB play in to the rotation. but the better they get, the better the rotation and depth chart start to look all the way around.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
He was one of our better LBs last year. Hes came a long way.
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Fade is right, it's not a knock at Colton. Kid plays with great effort, has improved and can help. But if we're gonna play at a championship level, he can't be a starter and a guy we're counting on heavily. Our linebacker talent and DEVELOPMENT has to improve exponentially imo.
 
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Jumper, while a gritty player is not a sec impact player. He can't make impact plays, he gets ran over a bunch. He is smart but is not fast nor strong enough to start a LB in the sec. Jumper makes a ton of tackles after 8-10 yard gains but not enough at the LOS much less the backfield. Austin Smith is more talented, we have to put talent on the field at linebacker. Kirkland, Bituli, Smith with Shannon Reid getting some reps also, that is my top 4 as far as talent. GBO!!!
 
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The good news here is that Sapp appears to be recovering well from his ACL injury.

I definitely like DKJr, Bituli, Sapp and Cortez. That is a real nice core of LBs. Both Jumper and El. Berry have proven to be more than ample backups as well.
 
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wildorange said:
Jumper, while a gritty player is not a sec impact player. He can't make impact plays, he gets ran over a bunch. He is smart but is not fast nor strong enough to start a LB in the sec. Jumper makes a ton of tackles after 8-10 yard gains but not enough at the LOS much less the backfield. Austin Smith is more talented, we have to put talent on the field at linebacker. Kirkland, Bituli, Smith with Shannon Reid getting some reps also, that is my top 4 as far as talent. GBO!!!
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McDowell not even your 4th man?
 
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jakez4ut said:
yeah, cause DK has shown so much lateral speed.....

DK is built for the middle. Thig is right about one thing....those longer, more athletic bodies work better outside so they can cover more ground, especially sideline to sideline, setting the edge etc...

body type alone, DB, DK and CJ are "built" for the middle. Sapp, Smith, Reed "look" like outside backers.

3 to play 1, and 3 to play 2. and that's the problem. if you want to have a 2 deep at all three, someone is likely going to be playing out of position. and that somebody is most likely Jumper, if you read between the lines in what Thig said.

not sure where CM and KB play in to the rotation. but the better they get, the better the rotation and depth chart start to look all the way around.
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I do not dispute your main point. But, are the current bodies/abilities of Bituli and A. Smith all that different?
 
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orangebloodgmc said:
I do not dispute your main point. But, are the current bodies/abilities of Bituli and A. Smith all that different?
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I think bituli is a little bulkier, and iirc, smith is a little longer...haven't checked the measurables lately. Going off memory & thigs comments.
 
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jakez4ut said:
I think bituli is a little bulkier, and iirc, smith is a little longer...haven't checked the measurables lately. Going off memory & thigs comments.
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A'ight. I seem to recall that before Smith's injuries, he was said to be above average for a LB in pass coverage. I hope that is true and applicable at this time.
 
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actually, on the 247 website, they have them both at 6'3" and 235#....basically they're twins, minus any development this off season and some more specific measurables...arm length, speed, workout weights, reps etc, etc....which i honestly don't know.
 
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jakez4ut said:
actually, on the 247 website, they have them both at 6'3" and 235#....basically they're twins, minus any development this off season and some more specific measurables...arm length, speed, workout weights, reps etc, etc....which i honestly don't know.
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Bituli is up to 250 lbs and he is faster and quicker than he was last season at 235 lbs.
 
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