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It was a different Meghan Simmons. She wasn't taking bad shots was taking it to the basket and getting the short jumpers. She took A&M off the dribble four or five times. I think this should have been her game for the last four years. I was glad to see her play within the team concept today but still be aggressive with good shot attempts.
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Simmons had a great game last night, and I'm happy for her (and the team), but that's NOT the way she normally plays. Her shooting percentage is low--second worst on the team, though it's improved recently. Some of the shots she took last night WERE tough, but she made them. The problem with Simmons is that she often shoots 5-15 rather than 12 for 19--and when she shoots badly against a good team, which is often, we lose. You don't know what you're going to get with her from night to night. She is a player who tends to play better against lesser competition. We've been living and dying with her for four years--and mostly dying in big games. Maybe she's turned a corner--we all hope so because we need her to shoot well. Same with Burdick: She has to knock down the 12-15 footers she gets. And it is important that we get Graves involved in the offense too.
Warlick needs to recognize when Simmons is not shooting well and get her to dial back and help her teammates get good shoots. That's proved a hard thing to do, however. Now is the time for Simmons to shine.
Maybe I'm looking at the stats wrong, but when you compare Simmons FG% to NON-post players, she is 2nd best on the team plus our team's leading scorer:
Carter, Andraya --> 0.448
Simmons, Meighan ---> 0.437
Jones, Jasmine ---> 0.421
Massengale, Ariel ---> 0.385
Reynolds, Jordan ---> 0.375
Burdick, Cierra ---> 0.344
In fact, her FG% right now is the best it's been for any one of her 4 seasons and her 3P% is within 2 one hundredth of a % point within her 4 year average - pretty good consistency.
All the post players (Russell, Graves, Harrison, and Moore) do have better FG% because they shoot the ball, on average, closer to the basket - usually right under the basket. You're not comparing apples to apples if you include post players analysis versus guards regarding FG%.
Source @ on 1/27/2014:
http://www.utsports.com/sports/w-baskbl/stats/2013-2014/teamcume.html
Meighan Simmons Bio - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
To say she OFTEN plays poorly is simply not true. On AVERAGE, she plays very well. She has great games, she has poor games, and she has average games, just like 90% plus of good players at every level of sports. And, the Lady Vols don't lose "often". We're winning 80% of our games ATM with one of the toughest schedules in the country in arguably the best conference in the country and the schedule actually looks favorable to us for the first time in a while, so that will hopefully improve further.
I agree shot selection, no matter how well or poor you are shooting, can always be a point of emphasis and the past three games in particular, Simmons has shown a willingness to drive and score or drive and dish and it's paying dividends. You simply cannot coach a team with a "hindsight is 20/20" mindset. To say, "Ok, Simmons, you missed your first few shots, you're done for the night" is absurd. To say she shouldn't be playing is also absurd and MANY people here have suggested it. As I've said, you have to take the good with the bad with all players.
When Simmons is having a bad game, other players DO need to step up and pick up the slack, BUT Simmons DOES need to keep shooting, keep slashing, keep dishing, and keep playing solid defense, and turn a bad game into a good game. You never KNOW when a game is going to be good or bad until it's over. You give it your all every game so that every game can be a good one. You don't really know, though, until the game is over. There's no crystal ball that says, "Oh, you need to take 30 shots tonight because you're going to be hot" or "I'm just not even going to play you because you're going to lay an egg".
Sure, life would be a LOT easier if you knew the result beforehand, but it doesn't work that way.
Carter, Andraya --> 0.448
Simmons, Meighan ---> 0.437
Jones, Jasmine ---> 0.421
Massengale, Ariel ---> 0.385
Reynolds, Jordan ---> 0.375
Burdick, Cierra ---> 0.344
In fact, her FG% right now is the best it's been for any one of her 4 seasons and her 3P% is within 2 one hundredth of a % point within her 4 year average - pretty good consistency.
All the post players (Russell, Graves, Harrison, and Moore) do have better FG% because they shoot the ball, on average, closer to the basket - usually right under the basket. You're not comparing apples to apples if you include post players analysis versus guards regarding FG%.
Source @ on 1/27/2014:
http://www.utsports.com/sports/w-baskbl/stats/2013-2014/teamcume.html
Meighan Simmons Bio - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
To say she OFTEN plays poorly is simply not true. On AVERAGE, she plays very well. She has great games, she has poor games, and she has average games, just like 90% plus of good players at every level of sports. And, the Lady Vols don't lose "often". We're winning 80% of our games ATM with one of the toughest schedules in the country in arguably the best conference in the country and the schedule actually looks favorable to us for the first time in a while, so that will hopefully improve further.
I agree shot selection, no matter how well or poor you are shooting, can always be a point of emphasis and the past three games in particular, Simmons has shown a willingness to drive and score or drive and dish and it's paying dividends. You simply cannot coach a team with a "hindsight is 20/20" mindset. To say, "Ok, Simmons, you missed your first few shots, you're done for the night" is absurd. To say she shouldn't be playing is also absurd and MANY people here have suggested it. As I've said, you have to take the good with the bad with all players.
When Simmons is having a bad game, other players DO need to step up and pick up the slack, BUT Simmons DOES need to keep shooting, keep slashing, keep dishing, and keep playing solid defense, and turn a bad game into a good game. You never KNOW when a game is going to be good or bad until it's over. You give it your all every game so that every game can be a good one. You don't really know, though, until the game is over. There's no crystal ball that says, "Oh, you need to take 30 shots tonight because you're going to be hot" or "I'm just not even going to play you because you're going to lay an egg".
Sure, life would be a LOT easier if you knew the result beforehand, but it doesn't work that way.
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Maybe I'm looking at the stats wrong, but when you compare Simmons FG% to NON-post players, she is 2nd best on the team plus our team's leading scorer:
Carter, Andraya --> 0.448
Simmons, Meighan ---> 0.437
Jones, Jasmine ---> 0.421
Massengale, Ariel ---> 0.385
Reynolds, Jordan ---> 0.375
Burdick, Cierra ---> 0.344
In fact, her FG% right now is the best it's been for any one of her 4 seasons and her 3P% is within 2 one hundredth of a % point within her 4 year average - pretty good consistency.
All the post players (Russell, Graves, Harrison, and Moore) do have better FG% because they shoot the ball, on average, closer to the basket - usually right under the basket. You're not comparing apples to apples if you include post players analysis versus guards regarding FG%.
Source @ on 1/27/2014:
http://www.utsports.com/sports/w-baskbl/stats/2013-2014/teamcume.html
Meighan Simmons Bio - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics
To say she OFTEN plays poorly is simply not true. On AVERAGE, she plays very well. She has great games, she has poor games, and she has average games, just like 90% plus of good players at every level of sports. And, the Lady Vols don't lose "often". We're winning 80% of our games ATM with one of the toughest schedules in the country in arguably the best conference in the country and the schedule actually looks favorable to us for the first time in a while, so that will hopefully improve further.
I agree shot selection, no matter how well or poor you are shooting, can always be a point of emphasis and the past three games in particular, Simmons has shown a willingness to drive and score or drive and dish and it's paying dividends. You simply cannot coach a team with a "hindsight is 20/20" mindset. To say, "Ok, Simmons, you missed your first few shots, you're done for the night" is absurd. To say she shouldn't be playing is also absurd and MANY people here have suggested it. As I've said, you have to take the good with the bad with all players.
When Simmons is having a bad game, other players DO need to step up and pick up the slack, BUT Simmons DOES need to keep shooting, keep slashing, keep dishing, and keep playing solid defense, and turn a bad game into a good game. You never KNOW when a game is going to be good or bad until it's over. You give it your all every game so that every game can be a good one. You don't really know, though, until the game is over. There's no crystal ball that says, "Oh, you need to take 30 shots tonight because you're going to be hot" or "I'm just not even going to play you because you're going to lay an egg".
Sure, life would be a LOT easier if you knew the result beforehand, but it doesn't work that way.
They will see once she leaves how bad we will miss her i can't say what i really want to say out of respect for my girls but she has been here for 4 yrs its not her fault
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Simmons raised her season shooting percentage in the last game from .421 to .437 by going 12 for 19. So, before the last game (when most of the discussion about Simmons occurred) she was shooting the same % as Jasmine Jones. With her performance in the last game, she boosted herself up to about about 180th best in Div 1.
If Simmons was a freshman walk on instead of All American and Wade Trophy candidate people would think she was fantastic. When expectations are not met, criticism occurs. In the last game, Meighan's shots were going in in bunches. She still took ill advised shots, but they were going in. In other games those shots miss in bunches. Therein lies the problem.
Looking at the stats it could be said that Simmons is an ok shooter. But that is misleading because she is such an inconsistent shooter.Consistency is very important to a team. Shooting 70% in one game and 10% in the next leads to losses.
In your statement about hindsight, you implied Simmons should not be removed for missing shots. I agree. What she should be removed for is taking a bad shot (even if it goes in). What is a bad shot? A contested shot, a shot early in the shot clock, an off balance shot, a long bomb when there are more than a few seconds left in the shot clock, where others are open for a better shot. Her skill enables her to make some of those poor shots, but she'd be so much better if she didn't take them.
What you are missing in your analysis are all the other parts of Meighan's game. She has shown herself to be a poor passer. Her assists to turnover ratio is horrendous. On offense, she is often just standing in one spot waiting for someone to pass her the ball. Her defense needs a lot of work with her speed she should be much better. She commits dumb fouls. When she is in the game, she hurts the team just as often as she helps. This is how I see it.
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The positive about Meghan Simmons was that she was shooting most of her shots inside the paint. She took four three point shots and hit one. I don't care how much she shoots if the shots are in the paint or she is trying to take the ball to the basket. The part of her offensive game I hate is when someone passes her the ball and she immediately shoots it. Or two she gets the ball runs down court and jacks one up with no one under to rebound. If you took all those shots off her record and instead made her go to the basket or shoot in the paint or circle her field goal percentage would be 47 percent of higher. I hope she continues to take the ball to the basket and takes jumpers inside the free throw circle. That is her best range as a shooter.
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