SIAP: NFL Teams Reconsider Dobbs QB Skills

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Link: https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/nfl-teams-reconsider-josh-dobbs-qb-skills-after-strong-november

I hope this is true. He's a great kid who deserves a chance.

Two things about Dobbs in the NFL:

1) Keep in mind we've never seen him with legit QB coaching. NFL has some gurus that might make all the difference for him, who knows, but I'd like to see him get a chance.

2) If he isn't an NFL QB, I could easily see him becoming the next Antwaan Randle-El. Not unlike what Terrell Pryor is doing now, but I think Dobbs is twice the athlete that Pryor is.
 
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I told ya'll this would happen. Imagine if we actually had lived up to the hype and had a good season? Imagine if we made it to the playoffs? He would be getting Deshaun Watson hype. But alas Butch Jones was too much to overcome.

I expect Dobbs to be drafted between the 2nd-4th round. He won't go lower than the 4th and its possible after the senior bowl, combine, and pro day, one team will fall in love with him and takes him alot higher than everyone else.

All I know is I'm confident Dobbs will be a great NFL QB. Too bad Butch Jones was too bad of a coach to utilize him to his full potential.
 
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I would LOVE for Dobbs to explode and be the next Dak Prescott next year and take the NFL by storm. Don't think it'll happen by any stretch, but I'd love it. I'd love to have a top flight former Vol NFL QB to follow for the next 15 years now that Peyton has retired.

I will say this.....Dobbs has greatly improved his downfield throwing. He has plenty of arm and we know he's a bright, high character young man. This is one time that I'd love to be called out by D4H and I'd gladly eat crow and say I was wrong.

That being said, I still say he's likely a late round pick who will struggle to make a roster next year. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
 
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If he's open to a position change, I definitely think he'll stick in the NFL. And even be a regular player who does well.

As far as the Prescott comparison, Dak is a much better raw passer, so I think Dobbs will require more legit coaching. At the draft he will be viewed as a seasoned leader with tons of experience but in need of position specific coaching.
 
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Doesn't throw the deep ball consistently well. Misses short throws often. Comes off primary reads too quickly (see last play vs vandy).


Granted his OL was terrible throughout his career. He wont be able to run like that in the NFL and his passing ability isnt enough to get him by. Thats been the scouting report on Dobbs his whole career.
 
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Unless we are watching different NFLs, if he's a late round pick he will NOT struggle to make a roster. The league is structured in a way now where most draft picks will play out rookie contracts.
 
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He will be a mid round pick. If he has any success it will depend on the situation he goes to.
 
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KBVol said:
I would LOVE for Dobbs to explode and be the next Dak Prescott next year and take the NFL by storm. Don't think it'll happen by any stretch, but I'd love it. I'd love to have a top flight former Vol NFL QB to follow for the next 15 years now that Peyton has retired.

I will say this.....Dobbs has greatly improved his downfield throwing. He has plenty of arm and we know he's a bright, high character young man. This is one time that I'd love to be called out by D4H and I'd gladly eat crow and say I was wrong.

That being said, I still say he's likely a late round pick who will struggle to make a roster next year. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
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I watch every Cowboys game. Dak makes throws on a regular basis that Dobbs has never shown the ability to make.
 
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Prescott has 30 pounds on Dobbs. I don't think Dobbs could withstand the hits he'd take in the NFL when he keeps it. That means he'd have to rely on his arm more, which at times can be suspect. He doesn't always get through his progressions well, and completely avoids the short and intermediate middle field. Maybe that can be fixed with coaching, but I think he needs his run threat to succeed.
 
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The best part of Dobbs game is his elusiveness to evade tackles.... in college.

Not sure that would hold up in the NFL.

If you take his ability to run out of the equation it's still a mystery how consistent he can be when forced to be a pocket passer.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Doesn't throw the deep ball consistently well. Misses short throws often. Comes off primary reads too quickly (see last play vs vandy).


Granted his OL was terrible throughout his career. He wont be able to run like that in the NFL and his passing ability isnt enough to get him by. Thats been the scouting report on Dobbs his whole career.
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He also is poor at making reads in general.
 
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Yeah he had a strong November but let's not act like he faced the '85 Bears in that time frame.
 
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Joshua Dobbs, first person to set foot on Mars.

If his NFL career doesn't pan out for some reason.
 
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I see him more like a Colin Kaepernick type of QB. A good athlete that can run and not very accurate. I'm not sure how he would be at the WR position. Is he fast enough, can he run routes and how good are his hands? I'm sure the NFL will take a look at him just because of his athletic ability alone.
 
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RG III was a faster, better throwing Dobbs. You see where he got. Dobbs will not last in the NFL if he even makes a team next year. Too fragile, too weak an arm, poor decision making when hurried.
 
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1982Alum said:
RG III was a faster, better throwing Dobbs. You see where he got. Dobbs will not last in the NFL if he even makes a team next year. Too fragile, too weak an arm, poor decision making when hurried.
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RG III had one of the very best rookie seasons in history before the injury. Dobbs is bigger and more durable though.

How is he too fragile when he hasn't been hurt, even with the pounding he takes due to the oline?

How is his arm too weak? He has thrown many deep passes. He probably has more arm strength than half the NFL starting qbs. Accuracy is what makes the qb, not arm strength. He has good arm strength for the NFL.

He has made a few bad decisions. All qbs do. Most of the time when he is hurried he doesn't have time to make a good or bad decision. The d is in the backfield in 1.5 seconds. Brady or Manning can't make a good decision in that amount of time either.

He has a chance. He is the best SEC qb this year. If you can be the best qb in the best conference you at least have some chance at an NFL career.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yeah he had a strong November but let's not act like he faced the '85 Bears in that time frame.
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But lets not act like he had an NFL offensive line protecting him.

Dobbs will be successful in the NFL because he's been successful in college without any protection. He's been running for his life the last 3 years and still making plays.

A major reason alot of highly decorated college QBs fail in the NFL is that they're not used to dealing with pressure from defensive lines. They're used to being surrounded by superior talent and when they get to the league and play on a bad team they don't know how to handle throwing the ball when your offensive line can't protect.

This is a major positive about Dobbs people are overlooking. He succeeded in spite of his offensive line. Not because of it. I can't think of many other big time college QBs you can say that about.
 
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1982Alum said:
RG III was a faster, better throwing Dobbs. You see where he got. Dobbs will not last in the NFL if he even makes a team next year. Too fragile, too weak an arm, poor decision making when hurried.
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First of all RG3 was injury prone even in college. He tore his ACL as a sophomore. Dobbs on the other hand has been a model of durability. I don't think he's even missed a snap since he became a full-time starter in 2014. And he's shown an uncanny ability to avoid big hits. While RG3 seemed to take brutal hits every game. Dobbs seems to just glide around the field bouncing off tacklers like its nothing. His style of play reminds me of Russell Wilson who also has an uncanny ability to avoid big hits.

But more importantly lets get to that ignorant comment you made above that I bolded. Why do people keep saying Dobbs has a weak arm? There is literally no evidence of this. The kid has been throwing bombs all season. He has been hitting passes all over the field with impressive velocity. If Dobbs arm is weak, then whose is strong?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I told ya'll this would happen. Imagine if we actually had lived up to the hype and had a good season? Imagine if we made it to the playoffs? He would be getting Deshaun Watson hype. But alas Butch Jones was too much to overcome.

I expect Dobbs to be drafted between the 2nd-4th round. He won't go lower than the 4th and its possible after the senior bowl, combine, and pro day, one team will fall in love with him and takes him alot higher than everyone else.

All I know is I'm confident Dobbs will be a great NFL QB. Too bad Butch Jones was too bad of a coach to utilize him to his full potential.
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Trubisky is on an Average team and got Watson hype. Kiser is on an awful team and has got Watson hype. You think NFL teams pass on great players cause they're on bad teams? Ha!😂
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
But lets not act like he had an NFL offensive line protecting him.

Dobbs will be successful in the NFL because he's been successful in college without any protection. He's been running for his life the last 3 years and still making plays.

A major reason alot of highly decorated college QBs fail in the NFL is that they're not used to dealing with pressure from defensive lines. They're used to being surrounded by superior talent and when they get to the league and play on a bad team they don't know how to handle throwing the ball when your offensive line can't protect.

This is a major positive about Dobbs people are overlooking. He succeeded in spite of his offensive line. Not because of it. I can't think of many other big time college QBs you can say that about.
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Before the season you said Hall, Robertson, Richmond and Thomas(weisman too I think?) would all be NFL linemen. You even said Thomas was a first round pick
 
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Smokey123 said:
Before the season you said Hall, Robertson, Richmond and Thomas(weisman too I think?) would all be NFL linemen. You even said Thomas was a first round pick
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LOL. No. I never said that about any of them.

Only guy I hyped up and am now willing to admit I was wrong on was Coleman Thomas. He regressed considerably this year. Last year he showed tremendous athleticism as a run blocker but struggled in pass protection against physical interior defensive lineman. I thought that he could fix that strength issue and become a great overall center. I was wrong. Coleman regressed as a run blocker and didn't develop that strength I thought he would to become a better pass protector.

The one and only guy I still like on our o-line is Weisman. He might go undrafted but I think he becomes a starting guard in the NFL at some point. I said last year he was our best offensive lineman when most were still going with Robertson (who I correctly identified last year as vastly overrated). And I will say he was once again our best offensive lineman this year on a line that regressed considerably. Richmond has been a disaster. Hall has been too injured to even evaluate properly. And Coleman as mentioned earlier regressed considerably. All in all a very poor season.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Trubisky is on an Average team and got Watson hype. Kiser is on an awful team and has got Watson hype. You think NFL teams pass on great players cause they're on bad teams? Ha!😂
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I don't know if you've been following the draft lately but Kizer has already been passed over. Watch the Notre Dame-USC game this past weekend. Todd McShay was doing anything but hyping him up. He said he needs to stay in school for another year. Kizer had one great game against a terrible Texas team that got everyone infatuated. Then reality hit. Now scouts have moved on. If you notice he's not even in the first round of most mock drafts now after magically jumping to #1 overall in September after one good game.

Mitch Trubisky is just this years 6'3"/6'4" white guy with decent college stats that scouts will hype up in the lead up to the draft that will then fail miserably in the pros. See Jared Goff in 2016. Like clockwork this happens almost every year. We saw it with Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Ryan Tannehill etc.
 
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