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Get teal dude, you just got done giving them hell for passing on Christian Morris without even knowing why they did it. How is that not bashing them?

I hardly think questioning a recruiting decision is bashing the staff. I'm not a dool aid drinker and still don't know why we hired him besides the fact that we couldn't get anyone else. What exactly has he done to warrant not getting bashed anyways? Seems like they're banking our recruiting class on the fact we win 9 or 10 games which who knows?
 
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I hardly think questioning a recruiting decision is bashing the staff. I'm not a dool aid drinker and still don't know why we hired him besides the fact that we couldn't get anyone else. What exactly has he done to warrant not getting bashed anyways? Seems like they're banking our recruiting class on the fact we win 9 or 10 games which who knows?

In January of 2010 no one wanted this job (save Kippy Brown).

"They're" actually banking on the last 3 recruiting classes to win this year

2010-2012 are without question the best 3 consecutive recruiting classes in the past decade.

Upper classmen and talent is what wins in the SEC and Dooley has his Junior class this year - things are looking up for a change.
 
#28
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This thred is a perfect example of why I have to be careful what threads I read in the summer. The amount of general ignorance many of our fanbase show in July is astounding. Not even worth responding to most of it.
 
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#29
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This thred is a perfect example of why I have to be careful what threads I read in the summer. The amount of general ignorance many of our fanbase show in July is astounding. Not even worth responding to most of it.

sounds like some good advice for me :)
 
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This thred is a perfect example of why I have to be careful what threads I read in the summer. The amount of general ignorance many of our fanbase show in July is astounding. Not even worth responding to most of it.

So true. That's why I generally don't respond but I thank those who do because I would be afraid to see what would happen if ignorance was allowed to go unimpeded.
 
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In January of 2010 no one wanted this job (save Kippy Brown).

"They're" actually banking on the last 3 recruiting classes to win this year

2010-2012 are without question the best 3 consecutive recruiting classes in the past decade.

Upper classmen and talent is what wins in the SEC and Dooley has his Junior class this year - things are looking up for a change.

I agree with everything you said, thanks for the response.
 
#32
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This thred is a perfect example of why I have to be careful what threads I read in the summer. The amount of general ignorance many of our fanbase show in July is astounding. Not even worth responding to most of it.

These are just opinions man. I just like to stir the pot. Are you saying that people who don't like the job Dooley has done are ignorant? Please shed some of your amazing brilliance on us.....
 
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I agree with everything you said, thanks for the response.

No problem - glad to hear it.

I wouldn't call myself a Dool-aid drinker, but I do think CDD deserves to be judged based on resuts with his guys and not based on the mess that was left by his predecessors.

Coach Majors got 9 years to get the program out of the hole Battle left it in - waaay too long for today's standards I know, but I think 3-4 years for Dooley should be very reasonable from a fan's perspective.

I'll never understand the crowd that thinks Dooley should have been able to win big games in '10 & '11 with minimal talent, very few upperclassmen and zero depth.

Perfect Example: The standout Senior leader from 2011 team was Malik Jackon. Malik was a 2010 DE transfer from USC who came to UT and was converted to DT due to lack of talent, depth, and upperclassmen on D-line.
 
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No problem - glad to hear it.

I wouldn't call myself a Dool-aid drinker, but I do think CDD deserves to be judged based on resuts with his guys and not based on the mess that was left by his predecessors.

Coach Majors got 9 years to get the program out of the hole Battle left it in - waaay too long for today's standards I know, but I think 3-4 years for Dooley should be very reasonable from a fan's perspective.

I'll never understand the crowd that thinks Dooley should have been able to win big games in '10 & '11 with minimal talent, very few upperclassmen and zero depth.

Perfect Example: The standout Senior leader from 2011 team was Malik Jackon. Malik was a 2010 DE transfer from USC who came to UT and was converted to DT due to lack of talent, depth, and upperclassmen on D-line.

I definitely agree, but I think I could win 9 games with this offense. I believe Dooleys toughest test will come if Bray and Co decide to head to the NFL. I think DR is definitely gone. IF Bray throws for 3500 and 30 TDs, he's got to be a first rounder right. On the other hand, if Dooley can convince them to stay, we could really have something special going. A lot of ifs.....
 
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I definitely agree, but I think I could win 9 games with this offense. I believe Dooleys toughest test will come if Bray and Co decide to head to the NFL. I think DR is definitely gone. IF Bray throws for 3500 and 30 TDs, he's got to be a first rounder right. On the other hand, if Dooley can convince them to stay, we could really have something special going. A lot of ifs.....

Agreed, but 3-5 of our star players leaving early for NFL could/should be considered a good thing...especially for recruiting

happened all the time between '89-'03

Nathan Peterman is supposed to be the real deal and Worley has already seen some action and looked OK.

The young guys Dooley and his staff are building this roster into a very solid group...I don't expect a huge dropoff in '13 even with some early departures to NFL

Croom, Howard, Bowles will all be ready to step up and start in '13
 
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Agreed, but 3-5 of our star players leaving early for NFL could/should be considered a good thing...especially for recruiting

happened all the time between '89-'03

Nathan Peterman is supposed to be the real deal and Worley has already seen some action and looked OK.

The young guys Dooley and his staff are building this roster into a very solid group...I don't expect a huge dropoff in '13 even with some early departures to NFL

Croom, Howard, Bowles will all be ready to step up and start in '13

That is very true, i also think Borque will surprise some folks. Supposedly a very nasty runner, which we def need.
 
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That is very true, i also think Borque will surprise some folks. Supposedly a very nasty runner, which we def need.

Another big help for '13 is the defense should improve as much or more than the offense steps back

year 2 of 3-4 scheme supposed to be much better than year 1

Sal seems like a very good hire at this point
 
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These are just opinions man. I just like to stir the pot. Are you saying that people who don't like the job Dooley has done are ignorant? Please shed some of your amazing brilliance on us.....

And yet when people share their opinions in sarcastic manners, you get all defensive and put up your nice, little facade like you're merely representing an opinion.

Such childish antics..
 
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And yet when people share their opinions in sarcastic manners, you get all defensive and put up your nice, little facade like you're merely representing an opinion.

Such childish antics..

Sorry Dad! Anything about the thread you wanna add? Id like to hear your thoughts.
 
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These are just opinions man. I just like to stir the pot. Are you saying that people who don't like the job Dooley has done are ignorant? Please shed some of your amazing brilliance on us.....

Well, since you ask, I'll point out yours. You say, "...I was under the impression we might need more than one o lineman in this class."

Well, in 3 seconds on Rivals you can easily see we have already taken 3 offensive linemen, including one of the top ranked in-state players, and are still recruiting several other high ranked out of state linemen. We likely will have a smaller class this year than years past due to scholly limits, so it's not like we can take 10 linemen.

It's pretty clear that this coaching staff has more of a commitment to recruiting in-state talent than any staff in the past decade or so. That said, they aren't interested in every good player in the state, just the ones we want, and we've missed on a few of those but have landed most (of the ones we want).

We recruit based on 1. ability 2. need 3. other factors (such as local). You don't offer Johnny because he's the best LB in Greene county, you offer him because Johnny is the LB that fits your teams needs regardless of where he lives. If two players are exactly equal, but one is from TN and one is from WI, you offer the local.

Another example from someone else....

Like I said, I've been preaching to give Dooley a fair chance. However, the program will be right back in a hole soon if they don't improve their recruiting.

That's just silly. Recruiting as well as we have despite being terrible for 5 years is the only reason we even have a shot at climbing out of the hole. You don't go from terrible to awesome by signing one top 3 class, because no terrible team signs a top 3 class. You go from terrible to good by signing 3-4 top 10-15 classes, then once you are good you have a shot at signing some top 5 classes and being great.
 
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