Should The Vols Abandon The Pro-Style Offense?

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Meyer On Gators' Up-Tempo Offense: 'It Could Be Lethal' - GatorZone.com

The Ducks’ high-powered attack caught the Gators’ attention earlier this season when Florida was preparing to play at Tennessee. The previous week, Oregon scored 45 unanswered points in a 48-13 win at Tennessee after falling behind 13-3.

After the game, James was asked what adjustments the Ducks made to surge back and decimate the Vols.

“We didn't make any adjustments in the second half,’’ James told reporters. “It comes down to tempo. Once the tempo gets going, it's hard to stop. Once those guys got tired we kept rolling.’’

The Gators turned up the tempo in a 34-31 win over Georgia on Saturday in Jacksonville, installing a no-huddle up-tempo offense that included rotating quarterbacks John Brantley and Trey Burton around at times on the same play.

The tweaks produced 450 yards and what Meyer called his most important victory, snapping a three-game losing streak and keeping the Gators’ quest for a third consecutive trip to the SEC Championship Game alive.

“I just see the evolution of the game right now,’’ Meyer said. “Florida has got as good athletes as anybody in America. What’s our edge? We have to find that edge.

“In ’05, we really didn’t have one. In ’06 we had some edge when we recruited Percy [Harvin] and then Dallas [Baker] came on and then obviously Tim [Tebow] went crazy in ’07. In ’08, you had a bundle of them. We are just still trying to find what that edge is. You can’t play offensive football without it. If you don’t have that edge, then it’s just a mess. That’s kind of where we’ve been. So we’re looking at tempo as an edge, multiple quarterbacks as an edge, and development of players.’’

Before you all go off the deep end with the anti-gator comments, I think its a legit question. Dont focus on the source, but on the question. Is Dooley hurting the program by not be progressive in this circumstance? Would it help recruiting to change offenses? Look at the guys lining up to play for Malzahn.
 
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It doesn't matter what system you use unless you got the qb to fit your system. Hopefully Tyler Bray is the answer.
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I read that and see the reason for the success was because UT got tired. It's true that tempo contributes to that but the bigger reason is depth. If Dooley recruits and builds teams like we had in past and like Bama has now, then we'll be fine. Look at what happened to Florida's tempo when they played Bama. When those smaller faster players repeatedly get punched in the mouth by bigger stronger players, they get tired too.

IMO, Urban looking for an edge is merely saying what everyone is now realizing. His coaching is not that great and he needs a new trick. Auburn is good this year but is it the system or Cam Newton? I say Newton.

I think once we have a complete roster then we'll be okay.
 
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What would the advantage be in changing systems now?
 
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It doesn't matter what system you use unless you got the qb to fit your system. Hopefully Tyler Bray is the answer.
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He won't be the answer if we try to go with an Oregon Duck's style offense.
 
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No, because almost everyone in the nation wants that type of player because they have gone to the spread. Once we have the type of players to fit our system then we will see how successful we will become. Like in 07,08 team we had pro-style and it worked! we can't just freak out and become like everyone else,especially if don't have those types of players like 08 season. Besides remember clawoffense spread need i say more. (Crompton has 3 OC's and we wonder why he sucked at first and was pro-set up and down)
 
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You can run an up-tempo no-huddle offense out of a Pro Style offense.

Converting to a Zone Read or Option Offense would be disastrous for UT. We can use elements of the West Coast/Spread without deviating too much from our standard package.

People stopping singing Florida's Spread Offensive praises when an NFL styled Defense punched them in the mouth. You'll hear the same silence if Oregon plays Bama in the NCG. Oregon best hope that Auburn wins out this year.

There is a reason that the NFL runs that style of Offense.
 
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the pro style offense works if you have a quarterback who can stand in the pocket and deliver passes with accuracy and a strong arm... ...hopefully that's bray...
...the run and shoot works well at hawaii, that might be our answer.
 
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You can run an up-tempo no-huddle offense out of a Pro Style offense.

Converting to a Zone Read or Option Offense would be disastrous for UT. We can use elements of the West Coast/Spread without deviating too much from our standard package.

People stopping singing Florida's Spread Offensive praises when an NFL styled Defense punched them in the mouth. You'll hear the same silence if Oregon plays Bama in the NCG. Oregon best hope that Auburn wins out this year.

There is a reason that the NFL runs that style of Offense.

Like the Indy Colts with Peyton. You play the system that works for the players that you have. I agree that the Ducks hope for Auburn rather than Bama.
 
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HMMM Alabama hasn't had too much of a problem with UF, and has had great results running the Pro Style . . .

Its the players fitting the system that counts, not the type of system.
 
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The only way it works is if you can convert 3rd downs. If you watch the OR/UT game we were in the game when OR wasn't converting. I wouldn't mind us going to a no huddle offense kinda like what Indianapolis runs. You have to have a smart QB who can pick up on different defensive looks though. I don't think you have to go to the spread to accomplish what they are doing.
 
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UT hasn't had a good qb since Casey Clausen. UT would be better off trying the gimmick system of the pistol than what Oregon runs atm. I prefer the pro style system, and I think Tyler Bray will be our best qb since Casey Clausen.
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I don't think we should abandon the pro-style. I like the fact that we can use it as a recruiting tool. I hope Dooley tells kids that this offense will prepare them for the NFL better than the spread. The pro style is also better suited for the caliber of athletes we have now. If we tried to switch now, then you're looking at the same situation Michigan has been in.
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I read that and see the reason for the success was because UT got tired. It's true that tempo contributes to that but the bigger reason is depth. If Dooley recruits and builds teams like we had in past and like Bama has now, then we'll be fine. Look at what happened to Florida's tempo when they played Bama. When those smaller faster players repeatedly get punched in the mouth by bigger stronger players, they get tired too.

IMO, Urban looking for an edge is merely saying what everyone is now realizing. His coaching is not that great and he needs a new trick. Auburn is good this year but is it the system or Cam Newton? I say Newton.

I think once we have a complete roster then we'll be okay.

Auburns offense was pretty good last year with average quarterbacks..the system works..if a team with SEC talent ran Oregons offense, it would be unstoppable.
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Oregon is successful with the spread because they get the kind of players that excel in the spread, and have been consistently running it for years.

Bray, Poole, J. Hunter, D. Rogers, and the kind of lineman we are recruiting are more suited to a Pro Style.
 
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You can run an up-tempo no-huddle offense out of a Pro Style offense.

Converting to a Zone Read or Option Offense would be disastrous for UT. We can use elements of the West Coast/Spread without deviating too much from our standard package.

People stopping singing Florida's Spread Offensive praises when an NFL styled Defense punched them in the mouth. You'll hear the same silence if Oregon plays Bama in the NCG. Oregon best hope that Auburn wins out this year.

There is a reason that the NFL runs that style of Offense.
We ran this with Eric Ainge result 10-3
UT hasn't had a good qb since Casey Clausen. UT would be better off trying the gimmick system of the pistol than what Oregon runs atm. I prefer the pro style system, and I think Tyler Bray will be our best qb since Casey Clausen.
True, but since Casey Ice man Clausen we have 3 OC's Sanders (who did i screw to the get this job and thank for God Casey cause is don't know $hit) (Cut the God Father of OC's and QB Guru 3 of the UT qb's in the NFL as of now) ClawOffense (everything on the Offence side said pro set and we do spead and screw up a season)
 

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