Shooting on Campus/In the fort

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NoWooInRockyTop said:
Gotta love the bible belt, just think if the drugs those kids were buying were legal and taxed, someone would still be alive. The dealer wouldn't have had the incentive to buy a gun or rob this person. Keep drinking your beer and telling yourself that it's the drugs that are the problem, instead of the way they are demonized. Here's to hoping the other kid lives to tell his story.
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I agree pot should be legal.

Cocaine, heroin, etc. should not be. Dealers would just find something else to profit from.
 
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#52
And why is this turning into a legalization issue? This isn't the time or place, most rational people agree with marijuana being legal.. but this is about the victims Sawyer Webb (deceased) and Crestus Roser
 
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Shot0fClarity said:
I agree pot should be legal.

Cocaine, heroin, etc. should not be. Dealers would just find something else to profit from.
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Like what? Selling groceries tax free? All drugs should be cheap, legal, taxed and regulated. Offer help if when people go to pick up their H. Collapse the market, take the money from people who use it for intimidation and crimes against men.
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I understand it is about the victim, but the root cause is the fact that our laws have created this profitable and explosive situation.Change the laws and this doesn't happen.
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Right on about the drug legalization, because robberies and shootings never occur in banks, convenience stores, or alleyways. Keep smoking, bro.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Right on about the drug legalization, because robberies and shootings never occur in banks, convenience stores, or alleyways. Keep smoking, bro.
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And you don't think that those aren't drug motivated? Good grief the most often robbery in this area is a pharmacy one. If they want to be hooked let them be hooked, at least then the only persons life they will be putting in danger is their own. It's been speculated that the most egregious crime in this area happened because a couple was attempting to buy drugs. Wake up.
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NoWooInRockyTop said:
And you don't think that those aren't drug motivated? Good grief the most often robbery in this area is a pharmacy one. If they want to be hooked let them be hooked, at least then the only persons life they will be putting in danger is their own. It's been speculated that the most egregious crime in this area happened because a couple was attempting to buy drugs. Wake up.
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It's funny for you to ask a doctor to "wake up." You can't even imagine how big the prescription drug problem is in this country. I have close friends in the DEA and it is downright scary when they explain the situation.

What do you propose? A nation full of narc'ed up, worthless, stoners that can't hold a job or take care of their children? I can tell you this: one of us needs to wake up (or back off it for while), and it sure isn't me.
 
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Maybe we can sit and talk sometime. I'd be happy to explain some of the unthinkable abuse and neglect that happens because people choose drugs over taking care of their helpless babies. It would make you vomit. Or, possibly, change your view.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
It's funny for you to ask a doctor to "wake up." You can't even imagine how big the prescription drug problem is in this country. I have close friends in the DEA and it is downright scary when they explain the situation.

What do you propose? A nation full of narc'ed up, worthless, stoners that can't hold a job or take care of their children? I can tell you this: one of us needs to wake up (or back off it for while), and it sure isn't me.
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Would tons of people all of the sudden go out and buy herion if it were legal? Would you? I know I wouldn't.
 
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KnoxVillain said:
Would tons of people all of the sudden go out and buy herion if it were legal? Would you? I know I wouldn't.
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Would more buy it? Absolutely. Especially if it were cheaper than their current fix. You and I aren't in this discussion. Trust me, I am in the middle of the situation on a regular basis, and it is downright horrific. I wish I could give you more details, but privacy rights restrict the info I can share. Just stop for a second and think: "Why would I BS you?"
 
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Here's a few anonymous samples, if you care to think on them:

Kids get left at home while parents out to party. House with open liquor bottles, used condoms, and drugs.

Wasted parent can't handle kid crying in bathtub...smashes head against the tub until he stops crying. I keep his systems viable until the organ harvest team can fly in.

Parent drinks and snorts, intentionally drives car off the road, kills both parents...leaving kids to fend for their own.

Care to reconsider? You really want this behavior legalized or made more accessible?
 
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Meth addict runs over 5 year old son's legs while the mother holds him down. They were convinced he was the devil and was possessing them. Campbell county 2005
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Would more buy it? Absolutely. Especially if it were cheaper than their current fix. You and I aren't in this discussion. Trust me, I am in the middle of the situation on a regular basis, and it is downright horrific. I wish I could give you more details, but privacy rights restrict the info I can share. Just stop for a second and think: "Why would I BS you?"
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Actually legalization has been shown to drop crime and drug abuse rates. Look at Portugal. They legalized everything and crime and drug abuse has dropped considerably across the board. Not to mention the unequal drug law enforcement and incarnation of minorities. But any way. Its always a tragedy when something like this happens. My heart goes out to the family.
 
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I don't know what effect legalizing drugs will have. I just know the people that are going to use it generally seek it out knowing the risks ahead of time. I think people should have the right to have the decision. I have no interest in it, but we will never truly rid the world of it.
 
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It's strange when people begin to compare the U.S. to other parts of the world with very dissimilar economies and culture. I'll say this and say no more: the legalization of marijuana/other drugs or a release of control over prescription narcotics would be the worst decision in the history of this great nation's healthcare.

I'm not an old prude or a close-minded guy, but I see stuff that most of you don't even want to imagine. It's a bad, bad idea, and I wish some of you would think outside of your box toward other means of peace.
 
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Ok alcohol causes 100 times as many of those situations. At least the behavior will be regulated, we treat these people as the sick people they are instead of sending them to prison where they become more hardened criminals and more psychological problems. My point is that the rules and regulations we have in place clearly aren't working! Does anyone disagree? It causes instances like this and everything you guys have responded with. In football, if things arent working you change what you are doing.Applies to society as well as football.
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kiddiedoc said:
It's strange when people begin to compare the U.S. to other parts of the world with very dissimilar economies and culture. I'll say this and say no more: the legalization of marijuana/other drugs or a release of control over prescription narcotics would be the worst decision in the history of this great nation's healthcare.

I'm not an old prude or a close-minded guy, but I see stuff that most of you don't even want to imagine. It's a bad, bad idea, and I wish some of you would think outside of your box toward other means of peace.
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Again, I am not a proponent of drug use; however, I think people should have the right to decide. It is more of a moral issue as far as I am concerned. Remember there will still be serial killers and people of the such that will do such disgusting things. I see your point of view, but terrible terrible things will probably always occur.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
It's strange when people begin to compare the U.S. to other parts of the world with very dissimilar economies and culture. I'll say this and say no more: the legalization of marijuana/other drugs or a release of control over prescription narcotics would be the worst decision in the history of this great nation's healthcare.

I'm not an old prude or a close-minded guy, but I see stuff that most of you don't even want to imagine. It's a bad, bad idea, and I wish some of you would think outside of your box toward other means of peace.
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Portugal is a major modern European country. They have shown legalization works. You don't hear about it alot here because too many people make money on the drugs being illegal and crime and incarceration rates being high.
 
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I also fail to see how being a medical doctor qualifies one as an expert in sociology? If our current archaic system of drug regulation and enforcement sought drastic changes that took money and power away from the black market and put it within our own country instead of exported to south America(coke) and the middle east(opium) and away from street gangs here then it would almost surely revive our struggling economy and simulaneously see a significant drop in violent crime rates.
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