Shady Walz

[Decker Moss]

All this shady stuff. He was suspended one game because he criticized a ref. First of all we all know how bad the refs are in WBB and second this shows me that he is standing up for his players. Second, what team beside the Lady Vols have a 100% grad rate? It should be stressed to him how important it is but you can’t hold the program hostage over it. And transfers. Every school has them now. He is no nonsense coach, some kids want to be coddled. I would rather have hard working motivated kids. Finally his shadiness. I want some proof of these vague things he’s done. To me we’re just trying to find excuses.
Please look at the final poll of the season for WBB. Of the teams in the Top Ten, which proven, successful coach of those teams do we have the best chance of getting? Very few. Of those couple, who has the best ability to take a huge and important WBB program and make them immediately a contender? To me their is only one choice. Jeff Walz

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

I think Jeff Walz will be the next Tennessee women's head basketball coach. I think he's the overwhelming favorite to be the next Tennessee women's basketball head coaching job among all Tennessee fans.

 

[POLOinDC]

Although I do like Walz as the next coach, he is shady as hell. He was responsible for the poaching of our starting pg Gatewood during the middle of the season. That left Tennessee without a proven pg. Hornbucle had to be moved over from sg to pg. It really messe up Tennessee chances for a title that year. He also offered a scholarship to a friend of Merced just to get Mercedes to sign with Louosville. When Mercedes signed with Tennessee, Walz rescinded the scholarship offer.

 

[POLOinDC]

Although I do like Walz as the next coach, he is shady as hell. He was responsible for the poaching of our starting pg Gatewood during the middle of the season. That left Tennessee without a proven pg. Hornbuckle had to be moved over from sg to pg. It really messe up Tennessee chances for a title that year. He also offered a scholarship to a friend of Mercedes just to get Mercedes to sign with Louisville. When Mercedes signed with Tennessee, Walz rescinded the scholarship offer.

 

[Smallvol#1]

Although I do like Walz as the next coach, he is shady as hell. He was responsible for the poaching of our starting pg Gatewood during the middle of the season. That left Tennessee without a proven pg. Hornbucle had to be moved over from sg to pg. It really messe up Tennessee chances for a title that year. He also offered a scholarship to a friend of Merced just to get Mercedes to sign with Louosville. When Mercedes signed with Tennessee, Walz rescinded the scholarship offer.

Frese was responsible for the Gatewood episode. The old “ buck stops here”. She was HC and his boss. The Mercedes story is true and 100% on him. Maybe he carried her ethics with him...

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

Although I do like Walz as the next coach, he is shady as hell. He was responsible for the poaching of our starting pg Gatewood during the middle of the season. That left Tennessee without a proven pg. Hornbuckle had to be moved over from sg to pg. It really messe up Tennessee chances for a title that year. He also offered a scholarship to a friend of Mercedes just to get Mercedes to sign with Louisville. When Mercedes signed with Tennessee, Walz rescinded the scholarship offer.

So nice you had to say it twice

 

[madtownvol]

The SWG story is the one that many long-time LV seem to be most upset about.

I remember that the transfer saga as well, though the behind the scenes component was never to my knowledge made public.

Was it really Walz or Frese?; was it really Maryland poaching or was SWG and her family looking for some other option?

On some practical considerations that are unrelated to the ethics issue.

Hornbuckle had come in as a PG and was probably going to be starting over SWG. What hurt the LVs was that she broke her wrist mid-season, which pushed the team to a PG by committee (which might not have happened if SWG had been on the team; though with her deteriorating knees there is no guarantee).

CP3, in her freshman redshirt year, and Zolman wound up sharing PG duties (mostly Zolman) and that worked okay until they ran up against North Carolina in the elite match (the LVs won the SEC title).

But, that season opened the door for the legendary Shannon Bobbitt and and defensive stopper Alberta Augustus to join the team as JUCO transfers and the back to back NCs.

 

[rickyb712]

Although I do like Walz as the next coach, he is shady as hell. He was responsible for the poaching of our starting pg Gatewood during the middle of the season. That left Tennessee without a proven pg. Hornbucle had to be moved over from sg to pg. It really messe up Tennessee chances for a title that year. He also offered a scholarship to a friend of Merced just to get Mercedes to sign with Louosville. When Mercedes signed with Tennessee, Walz rescinded the scholarship offer.

you think he only coach to pull offer? Also if our PG was happy and winning she would have not left

 

[volunator]

Just wonder if anyone would consider it shady if he were doing it for UT instead of to UT.

 

[papatomany]

Just wonder if anyone would consider it shady if he were doing it for UT instead of to UT.

Yes. I would consider it shady. So, there's at least one.

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

Yes. I would consider it shady. So, there's at least one.

I would look the other way if Tennessee was winning the SEC,going to Final Fours and National Championship Games.

 

[POLOinDC]

So nice you had to say it twice

LMAO I didn't see or know where the edit button was....LOL

 

[Amb3096]

The SWG story is the one that many long-time LV seem to be most upset about.

I remember that the transfer saga as well, though the behind the scenes component was never to my knowledge made public.

Was it really Walz or Frese?; was it really Maryland poaching or was SWG and her family looking for some other option?

On some practical considerations that are unrelated to the ethics issue.

Hornbuckle had come in as a PG and was probably going to be starting over SWG. What hurt the LVs was that she broke her wrist mid-season, which pushed the team to a PG by committee (which might not have happened if SWG had been on the team; though with her deteriorating knees there is no guarantee).

CP3, in her freshman redshirt year, and Zolman wound up playing PG (mostly Zolman) and that worked okay until they ran up against North Carolina in the elite match (the LVs won the SEC title).

But, that season opened the door for the legendary Shannon Bobbitt and and defensive stopper Alberta Augustus.

SWG was starting PG, Shanna/Alexis were the starting wings, and Candace/Nicky were the posts. SWG's transfer caused Alexis to slide over to PG. I don't remember who moved into the starting lineup then...maybe Spencer...but SWG was tabbed as the starting PG of the team that season and probably beyond. Agreed that her leaving resulted in getting Bobbitt, Wich ended up working for Tennessee.

 

[madtownvol]

SWG was starting PG, Shanna/Alexis were the starting wings, and Candace/Nicky were the posts. SWG's transfer caused Alexis to slide over to PG. I don't remember who moved into the starting lineup then...maybe Spencer...but SWG was tabbed as the starting PG of the team that season and probably beyond. Agreed that her leaving resulted in getting Bobbitt, Wich ended up working for Tennessee.

Checked out the way back machine and her some brief news reports on SWG's season and a half as a LV:

2004-2005
Wiley-Gatewood spent much of her 2005 rookie season rehabbing her left knee for patella tendonitis. The 5-9 guard appeared in 13 games as a freshman and averaged 3.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg and 1.2 apg.


2005-2006

Hornbuckle and Sade Wiley-Gatewood shared time at the point guard position prior to Wiley-Gatewood transferring to Maryland at mid-semester.

 

[TenUhSee]

I think Jeff Walz will be the next Tennessee women's head basketball coach. I think he's the overwhelming favorite to be the next Tennessee women's basketball head coaching job among all Tennessee fans.

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[POLOinDC]

you think he only coach to pull offer? Also if our PG was happy and winning she would have not left

Tennessee was winning that year. That transfer messed up our season.

 

[bballnut90]

All this shady stuff. He was suspended one game because he criticized a ref. First of all we all know how bad the refs are in WBB and second this shows me that he is standing up for his players. Second, what team beside the Lady Vols have a 100% grad rate? It should be stressed to him how important it is but you can’t hold the program hostage over it. And transfers. Every school has them now. He is no nonsense coach, some kids want to be coddled. I would rather have hard working motivated kids. Finally his shadiness. I want some proof of these vague things he’s done. To me we’re just trying to find excuses.
Please look at the final poll of the season for WBB. Of the teams in the Top Ten, which proven, successful coach of those teams do we have the best chance of getting? Very few. Of those couple, who has the best ability to take a huge and important WBB program and make them immediately a contender? To me their is only one choice. Jeff Walz

The thing is, I don't want a shady coach. If you look at the top 10 teams in WCBB, Jeff is by far the shadiest. I don't want a coach who makes conditional offers to land players like what happened with Mercedes. I don't want to see feuds with other coaches. I don't want half of our players to end up transferring (Jeff's current transfer rate). I don't want there to be rumors of our staff poaching other players mid year like what allegedly happened with SWG.

Tennessee has an absolutely loaded roster coming back that is top 10 caliber. Looking at the WBB landscape next year, I think almost anyone we bring us puts us back in the top 10 as long as players return. A strong mid-major coach can also make us an immediate contender while also avoiding a lot of the negatives that Jeff brings to the table.

 

[bballnut90]

Tennessee was winning that year. That transfer messed up our season.

I agree we were winning that year....that was one of the only years where I thought we legitimately had a great shot to go undefeated. Even with the Hornbuckle injury and having Parker handle PG duties, we were a Final Four caliber team. We were screwed by being the top 2 seed and getting placed in the closest region, which happened to have North Carolina in it, a team that was the consensus #1 team and had a 33-1 record. Had we been placed with the weakest #1 seed (LSU or Ohio State), we probably make the Final Four.

Anyway, I don't know what happened behind the scenes with SWG, but from the little I know, the blame has to be on SWG rather than Frese/Walz. In Pat's book she says SWG transferred because she felt she couldn't play "her game" in Pat's system. In her last game, I remember Pat pulled her for a bad shot or something, then talked with her, put her back in and she made the same bad decision and was pulled for the game. That was the end of it. She was a shining example of when Pat used to say, "Tennessee isn't for everyone."

There were also rumors that SWG had very difficult parents who were very much the, "my daughter should be playing more!!" type. SWG never panned out at Maryland and also left before completing her eligibility.

Her leaving when she did was probably a blessing in disguise, as it led to the addition of Shannon Bobbitt who was vital to our 2 championships. Just wish we could've avoided that drama/injuries in 2006 and all of the injuries in 2005. If we did, we honestly would've had a great shot to win all 4 years with Parker.

Side rant over.

 

[lvocd]

The thing is, I don't want a shady coach. If you look at the top 10 teams in WCBB, Jeff is by far the shadiest. I don't want a coach who makes conditional offers to land players like what happened with Mercedes. I don't want to see feuds with other coaches. I don't want half of our players to end up transferring (Jeff's current transfer rate). I don't want there to be rumors of our staff poaching other players mid year like what allegedly happened with SWG.

Tennessee has an absolutely loaded roster coming back that is top 10 caliber. Looking at the WBB landscape next year, I think almost anyone we bring us puts us back in the top 10 as long as players return. A strong mid-major coach can also make us an immediate contender while also avoiding a lot of the negatives that Jeff brings to the table.

That sure gives me a lot to think about this weekind!

 

[bobkitten]

My misgivings are only due to observed behavior. I always think: Would I want this person as the face of LVs? There is more to life than winning games, and I say that as someone competitive as h3ll!

 

[lvocd]

I heard something that gave me some insight as to at least one possible reason Walz loses so many players through transfers.

Apparently, a reporter asked a group of Louisville players what it’s like to play for Walz. They all looked at each other, grinned, and then one of them blurted out, “Hitler. It’s like playing for Hitler.” They all laughed really hard, and Walz (who was also with the group), smiled and said so ething like, “Yeah, I’d say that’s accurate.”

Soooo, sounds like he’s a demanding coach who might be a little too tough for some players.

 

[OldNSlow]

I heard something that gave me some insight as to at least one possible reason Walz loses so many players through transfers.

Apparently, a reporter asked a group of Louisville players what it’s like to play for Walz. They all looked at each other, grinned, and then one of them blurted out, “Hitler. It’s like playing for Hitler.” They all laughed really hard, and Walz (who was also with the group), smiled and said so ething like, “Yeah, I’d say that’s accurate.”

Soooo, sounds like he’s a demanding coach who might be a little too tough for some players.

I think everyone knows who is the boss when playing for Walz. Very structured behind the scenes, which does not lead to .........

 

[OldNSlow]

The thing is, I don't want a shady coach. If you look at the top 10 teams in WCBB, Jeff is by far the shadiest. I don't want a coach who makes conditional offers to land players like what happened with Mercedes. I don't want to see feuds with other coaches. I don't want half of our players to end up transferring (Jeff's current transfer rate). I don't want there to be rumors of our staff poaching other players mid year like what allegedly happened with SWG.

Tennessee has an absolutely loaded roster coming back that is top 10 caliber. Looking at the WBB landscape next year, I think almost anyone we bring us puts us back in the top 10 as long as players return. A strong mid-major coach can also make us an immediate contender while also avoiding a lot of the negatives that Jeff brings to the table.

About 50% of what you just said is straight lies. The other 50% is partial truths which equates to even worse than straight lies. Im not guessing either.

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

I heard something that gave me some insight as to at least one possible reason Walz loses so many players through transfers.

Apparently, a reporter asked a group of Louisville players what it’s like to play for Walz. They all looked at each other, grinned, and then one of them blurted out, “Hitler. It’s like playing for Hitler.” They all laughed really hard, and Walz (who was also with the group), smiled and said so ething like, “Yeah, I’d say that’s accurate.”

Soooo, sounds like he’s a demanding coach who might be a little too tough for some players.

A strict head coach will be a pleasant change from Holly Warlick

 

[volfanIND]

I heard something that gave me some insight as to at least one possible reason Walz loses so many players through transfers.

Apparently, a reporter asked a group of Louisville players what it’s like to play for Walz. They all looked at each other, grinned, and then one of them blurted out, “Hitler. It’s like playing for Hitler.” They all laughed really hard, and Walz (who was also with the group), smiled and said so ething like, “Yeah, I’d say that’s accurate.”

Soooo, sounds like he’s a demanding coach who might be a little too tough for some players.

You all know that Summitt was as tough as they come right? Like, the toughest? This is a woman who walked by the men's basketball practice while Pearl was the coach, didn't like what she saw and just took over the whole practice. Pearl let her and just sat on the sidelines the rest of the practice. A player pubicly came out about it and even said something like "I will always remember that day because I threw up after practice"