SEC's Top Active Coaches/ Where Does Phil Fit In

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Not What They Did in 90's; What They've done The Last 4-5 years and going forward

1) Meyer (unreal what he did in just his 2nd year)

2) Saban (LSU talent the last two years has been unreal and the credit goes to St. Nick)
3) Richt (great x's & o's)

4) Spurrier (on a slight decline of his career like Parcells but still has things rockin' in SC)

5) Ruberville (proved he can recruit and if he has good o.c. there good team ~ hence Petrino & Borges)

6) Fulmer (no longer in prime, outdated, still has the facilites and players to remain competitive; as Small Mike calls UT; we're the glorified Wisconsin of the SEC)

7) Les Miles (loaded w/ talent left from St. Nicky. Without Jimbo and losing some of that top talent, this year will tell if he can handle this league)

8) H. Nutt (great motivator, team always tends to be inconsistent from year to year, I know his fans HATE HIM. Not a bad coach, outside of a couple years, always seems to have Phillip's #)

9) Tie Bobby Johnson & Rich Brooks; both deserve some credit from what they've accomplished at their poor in tradition schools)

11) Ed Orgeron (great recruiter, jury still out on his coaching ability. If you can land back-to-back top 15classes at that school you're doing something right. Coach "Rut" left that program in bad shape as far as talent. He appears to be getting it back but is moving @ turtle speed)

12) Coach Croom (I know there on punishment but they don't seem to be coached real well. Although he did beat the "Football Buzz" this year. Jury is still out. Don't seem to be recruiting good. Hopefully Phil will not slip up down there next year)
 
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im really suprised at what les miles has done at lsu with all that pressure that he's always under. Right now, he and meyer are at the top. Fulmer is somewhere near the middle.
 
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Orgeron is the worst. It's not even close. If that moron were the coach of my middle school football team, I'd transfer.
 
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I have watched CPF for years. I was at the bus stop with Phil Jr. when he lived in Concepts 21 in Bearden. He was the Offensive Lineman Coach at the time. I think that he has great potential, however he doesn't close the deal. ie; No matter what the kids do he claps his hands like it's ok. I am a Chief in the military and I hole heartedly believe in climbing in a kids @ss if they mess up or don't show respect. I believe that we lost something somewhere. I think he is a great guy but he needs to drop his nuts and be a coach. The friendship ends at the gate. Just my 2 cents.
 
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booooooooooo knx... boooooooooo. shun shun. HONOR THE MORATORIUM... AT LEAST TWO MORE DAYS PLEASE....booooooooooooooo
 
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We were having this exact discussion a few weeks ago over at wildcatnation.net. Here's what they came up with:

1 Richt - Got caught w/o a QB this year, but that's unlikely to happen again.

2 Saban - If he can weather the 1st couple of years, he will win big at Bama

3 Meyer - Has won big everywhere he's been. Will have to adapt his offense better.

4 SOS - Fine coach, but Bob Stoops isn't walking through that door.
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5 Tubberville - Always fields a physical team no matter what, but needs a QB badly.

6 Brooks - Has as much football knowledge as anyone in the SEC. Just needs more time & players, both of which will come.
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7 Miles - Team has too many mental letdowns in games, or he would be in the top 5.

8 Johnson - Does as much with what he has as can be expected.

9 Nutt - Hard guy to figure out. Just when you think he's a gonner, he'll pull a McFadden out of his hat.

10 Great Pumpkin - Still a master recruiter, but has gotten lazy, and his team follows his personality.

11 Croom - In a bad situation at State in terms of facilities and mess left by Sherrill.

12 Orgeron - Very good recruiter, but makes Zook look like Lombardi on the sidelines.
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GAVol said:
A whole lot of Georgia fans would beg to differ.
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Couple reason's as to why I think Richt is a good x's and o's. He calls a good game. They do try to score, he takes shots. Second, look @ FSU since he's been, they've fell off the face of the earth offensively.

Alot of sec coaches are neck and neck with one another. Meyer, Richt, Saban & SS, all four are ahead of the rest in this league.

Ruberville is close but would take those four first.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
Terminally shuncast. Boooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Is shuncast even a word? I like it, word or not.


Brian McCat said:
6 Brooks - Has as much football knowledge as anyone in the SEC. Just needs more time & players, both of which will come.
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8 Johnson - Does as much with what he has as can be expected.

10 Great Pumpkin - Still a master recruiter, but has gotten lazy, and his team follows his personality.
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That tells alot about the UK forums. They rank a coach whose best year culminated in a Music City Bowl birth, and who a large majority were lobbying to fire before the season, and a coach who has never had a winning season since joining the SEC, ahead of Fulmer. It is a shining example of the level of football knowledge occupied by most fans of the University of Kentucky.
 
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cotton said:
That tells alot about the UK forums. They rank a coach whose best year culminated in a Music City Bowl birth, and who a large majority were lobbying to fire before the season, and a coach who has never had a winning season since joining the SEC, ahead of Fulmer. It is a shining example of the level of football knowledge occupied by most fans of the University of Kentucky.
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Keep that superiority complex going! You keep forgetting that UK is coming off a crippling probation, and is doing the turnaround with a veteran coach, a brilliant staff, solid recruiting, and a balanced attack- no gimmicky pass-oriented offenses here, just running the football effectively when necessary.

No offense intended, but your comments are also a shining example of only keeping your eyes on the Vols, downtrodding those who you consider beneath you.

The list, I think, was more along the lines of rank them in terms of job performance in the last few years. Surely you would agree that CPF hasn't lived up to expectations?
 
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GAVol said:
10th huh? Are you trying to incite a riot? :p
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:) Nah, it was one other poster's assessment. You see, KY fans have YOU-KNOW-WHAT ENVY when it comes to UT football. Most UK fans both loathe their success and envy it at the same time. I never said that it was my ranking (you probably don't want me to put it here, anyway).

I just thought it might be interesting to post how another team's fans ranked them.

Personally, I think SOS is over-rated.
 
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knxfbfan said:
He calls a good game. They do try to score, he takes shots.
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Richt came under so much fire the past couple of years that he has finally relented and has given up the playcalling. I don't think he's bad . . . but he's no Steve Spurrier.
 
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kptvol said:
Orgeron is the worst. It's not even close. If that moron were the coach of my middle school football team, I'd transfer.
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Let's give him another year or two. He is a great recruiter and unlike some head coaches he will keep changing assiatants until he gets it right. I predict a winning season for the Rebs this year.

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The obvious issue here...and we're all kinda dancin around the maypole on it...is that the coach we're all interested in is a consensus middle of the pack coach.

One step forward...two steps back....how long to get to the top again?
 
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CoastieVol said:
I have watched CPF for years. I was at the bus stop with Phil Jr. when he lived in Concepts 21 in Bearden. He was the Offensive Lineman Coach at the time. I think that he has great potential, however he doesn't close the deal. ie; No matter what the kids do he claps his hands like it's ok. I am a Chief in the military and I hole heartedly believe in climbing in a kids @ss if they mess up or don't show respect. I believe that we lost something somewhere. I think he is a great guy but he needs to drop his nuts and be a coach. The friendship ends at the gate. Just my 2 cents.
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This is one reason I was glad to see Shula go. He was to buddy, buddy with the players. Most college athletes need some stern direction, they need a leader, not a best friend. They need authority that they will respect.
 
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That tells alot about the UK forums. They rank a coach whose best year culminated in a Music City Bowl birth, and who a large majority were lobbying to fire before the season, and a coach who has never had a winning season since joining the SEC, ahead of Fulmer. It is a shining example of the level of football knowledge occupied by most fans of the University of Kentucky.
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I was thinking something similar. I knew they were gonna post the uk coach higher then he should be. Putting him in front of coaches that have actually won something screams of homerism.
 
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Brian McCat said:
Keep that superiority complex going! You keep forgetting that UK is coming off a crippling probation, and is doing the turnaround with a veteran coach, a brilliant staff, solid recruiting, and a balanced attack- no gimmicky pass-oriented offenses here, just running the football effectively when necessary.

No offense intended, but your comments are also a shining example of only keeping your eyes on the Vols, downtrodding those who you consider beneath you.
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Actually, embarrassingly enough, my eyes are turned towards Lexington far too often as a result of my living amongst the blue faithful. I know that the Cats played better than most expected this year, but those expectations were exceedingly low. I have a hard time putting too much faith in the program's turnaround, despite it's first bowl win during any of the current players' lifetimes, based on wins over a freefalling Clemson team that lost 3 of 4 coming in, a Georgia team that finished just above .500, Vandy, the Mississippi bottom dwellers, Central Michigan, highschool teams from Texas and Louisiana, and a close loss in Knoxville.

And yes, I do consider the UK football program to be "beneath" the UT program, considering the Vols have the nation's second longest winning streak over UK and the fact that the Cats haven't won the conference since Gerald Ford was in office (in all fairness, they have won it twice since the Herbert Hoover administration.) If pointing out such facts is "downtrodding" then I suppose I am a downtrodder.
 
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TravisHenryCBlockedMe said:
Putting him in front of coaches that have actually won something screams of homerism.
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Maybe I should educate you of the fact that Rich Brooks put Oregon football on the map. In 1977 they were the doormats of the Pac-10. By the end, they were in the Rose Bowl, and have been pretty much top 25 since. So,... to say that he's never done anything isn't exactly homerism.

Oh, his team did go +5 in wins over last year, too. That's pretty hard to do.
 
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Brian McCat said:
Keep that superiority complex going! You keep forgetting that UK is coming off a crippling probation, and is doing the turnaround with a veteran coach, a brilliant staff, solid recruiting, and a balanced attack- no gimmicky pass-oriented offenses here, just running the football effectively when necessary.
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Yes. Put your faith in Randy Sanders. :p

Also, your single 4* recruit will obviously dominate the SEC next year. I'm sure that ranking 11th out of 12 in the conference is a banner year in recruiting up in Lexington. Plus, you have one more 3* guy than we have 5* guys....so....bonus!

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