SEC vs. Top 25 OOC games on the road in the last 15 years

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sickemsmokey10

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Kindda interesting to see who in the SEC has done well and who hasn't done so good against Top 25 OOC teams on the road over the last 15 years. If you take away UGA and Tennessee's records, the SEC would be 2-22

Georgia (2-1)
W Clemson, '03, 30-0
L Ga Tech, '99, 51-48
W Ga Tech, '97, 27-24

LSU (0-4)
L Va Tech, '02, 26-8
L Notre Dame, '98, 39-36
L Texas A&M, '95, 33-17
L Texas A&M, '93, 24-0

Alabama (0-1)
L Oklahoma, '02, 37-27

Florida (1-6-1)
W Fla State, '04, 20-13
L Miami, '03, 38-33
L Fla State, '02, 31-14
L Fla State, '00, 30-7
L Fla State, '98, 23-12
L Fla State, '96, 24-21
T Fla State, '94, 31-31
L Fla State, '92, 45-24

Auburn (0-2)
L USC, '02, 24-17
L Syracuse, '01, 31-14

Vanderbilt (0-4)
L Michigan, '06, 27-7
L Navy, '04, 29-26
L TCU, '03, 30-14
L Notre Dame, '95, 41-0

Tennessee (3-1)
L Notre Dame, '05, 41-21
W Miami, '03, 10-6
W Syracuse, '98, 34-33
W UCLA, '97, 30-24

Arkansas (1-1)
L USC, '05, 70-17
W Texas, '03, 38-28

South Carolina (0-2)
L Virginia, '02, 34-21
L Clemson, '00, 16-14

Kentucky (0-2)
L Louisville, '06, 59-28
L Louisville, '04, 28-0

Neither Mississippi State or Ole Miss has played a top-25 team out-of-conference on the road in the past 15 years.
 
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I didn't know SEC teams besides Tenn played non conference bcs road games. Great records. Keep telling yourself that kentucky or vandy would be dominant in another conference. . .
 
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We basically lost to everyone in 05'. If it wasn't for a bad call in last years UT vs Fla game, you might not have a NC trophy in you case.
 
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droski said:
I didn't know SEC teams besides Tenn played non conference bcs road games. Great records. Keep telling yourself that kentucky or vandy would be dominant in another conference. . .
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So the record is 7-25.

A few things:

A. This is only the record ON THE ROAD. Not overall.
B. This is not top 25 SEC teams vs. top 25 ooc teams. It includes the terrible Kentucky teams playing Louisville and Vandy playing Michigan and others like that.

Considering those two factors, the record isn't that bad.

As for the comment that you didn't know SEC teams played touch OOC games...where does that come from? SEC teams routinely play tough OOC schedules (besides Auburn). But even if they didn't, we get our schedule is tough enough just playing in conference. On the other hand, if USC were to schedule no tough OOC games, the only tough team they'd play would be Cal (who was the 2nd best team in the Pac 10 last year, but got blown out by the SEC #5).
 
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GregAmsler said:
So the record is 7-25.

A few things:

A. This is only the record ON THE ROAD. Not overall.
B. This is not top 25 SEC teams vs. top 25 ooc teams. It includes the terrible Mississippi State teams playing Oregon and Vandy playing Michigan and others like that.

Considering those two factors, the record isn't that bad.

As for the comment that you didn't know SEC teams played touch OOC games...where does that come from? SEC teams routinely play tough OOC schedules (besides Auburn). But even if they didn't, we get our schedule is tough enough just playing in conference. On the other hand, if USC were to schedule no tough OOC games, the only tough team they'd play would be Cal (who was the 2nd best team in the Pac 10 last year, but got blown out by the SEC #5).
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From pete carroll himself:

"Our toughest games by far last season were in our conference," USC coach Pete Carroll explained. "This is an extraordinary conference. There's great coaching and excellent offenses and excellent football players. We're challenged every week. Our score spreads make it obvious."

Rivals.com College Football - Pac-10 Notes: Dixon returns to Ducks early
 
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droski said:
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From pete carroll himself:

"Our toughest games by far last season were in our conference," USC coach Pete Carroll explained. "This is an extraordinary conference. There's great coaching and excellent offenses and excellent football players. We're challenged every week. Our score spreads make it obvious."

Rivals.com College Football - Pac-10 Notes: Dixon returns to Ducks early
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That seals it. PAC-10 is amazing because one of its own said so.
 
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droski said:
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From pete carroll himself:

"Our toughest games by far last season were in our conference," USC coach Pete Carroll explained. "This is an extraordinary conference. There's great coaching and excellent offenses and excellent football players. We're challenged every week. Our score spreads make it obvious."

Rivals.com College Football - Pac-10 Notes: Dixon returns to Ducks early
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Of course Pete Carroll is going to say that. He's a Pac 10 coach. I can find you a quotation of the Pope praising Catholicism, if you like.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Of course Pete Carroll is going to say that. He's a Pac 10 coach. I can find you a quotation of the Pope calling praising Catholicism, if you like.
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a) He's right. Pac-10 teams have played USC FAR more competively over the last couple of years than their nonconference opponents. THis is obvious both by records and by the margin of victory. I've been saying this exact thing for months btw.

b) Stanford has played USC far more competively than the SEC has over the last 5 years.
 
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droski said:
a) He's right. Pac-10 teams have played USC FAR more competively over the last couple of years than their nonconference opponents. THis is obvious both by records and by the margin of victory. I've been saying this exact thing for months btw.

b) Stanford has played USC far more competively than the SEC has over the last 5 years.
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That doesn't surprise me. They know USC better. Unless you think Stanford is better than Auburn.

:hmm:
 
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GregAmsler said:
That doesn't surprise me. They know USC better. Unless you think Stanford is better than Auburn.

:hmm:
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My only point all along is that yes the SEC is the best, but the gap between the SEC and the rest of the bcs is not what you guys think it is.
 
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droski said:
a) He's right. Pac-10 teams have played USC FAR more competively over the last couple of years than their nonconference opponents. THis is obvious both by records and by the margin of victory. I've been saying this exact thing for months btw.

b) Stanford has played USC far more competively than the SEC has over the last 5 years.
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a) Look at that list comprised by sickemsmokey...the only Pac-10 team on that list is....USC

b) Look at ESPN.com's list of the top 25 programs of the past decade...a list comprised of a consensus of college football sports writers, not just any one person's opinion.....5 SEC teams in the top 15, 1 Pac-10 team...drum roll...USC

Keep dreamin' and coming up with junk statistics to make your point if you want to...but there is no comparison between our conferences
 
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droski said:
My only point all along is that yes the SEC is the best, but the gap between the SEC and the rest of the bcs is not what you guys think it is.
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Okay...my apologies...I thought you were being a mindless homer
 
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blamie said:
a) Look at that list comprised by sickemsmokey...the only Pac-10 team on that list is....USC

b) Look at ESPN.com's list of the top 25 programs of the past decade...a list comprised of a consensus of college football sports writers, not just any one person's opinion.....5 SEC teams in the top 15, 1 Pac-10 team...drum roll...USC

Keep dreamin' and coming up with junk statistics to make your point if you want to...but there is no comparison between our conferences
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You are really going to quote what a bunch of sportwriters think as some sort of evidence of SEC superiority? You are right stats and scores of actual games mean nothing, growing up an SEC fan, and not watching non SEC games, and in particular reading ESPN, makes you guys experts on all things pac-10.
 
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droski said:
I didn't know SEC teams besides Tenn played non conference bcs road games. Great records. Keep telling yourself that kentucky or vandy would be dominant in another conference. . .
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UGa, FLorida, and USC all have standing OOC traditional foes with opponents that are respectable or better. If UofL continues the recent trend, add Kentucky to that list. And I don't know of anyone who said UK or VU would dominate another BCS conference; they would, however, do better than they do in the SEC.

droski said:
a) He's right. Pac-10 teams have played USC FAR more competively over the last couple of years than their nonconference opponents.
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And this means exactly what? Your point of pride is that the one good team in your conference has beaten you and your west coast bretheren by less than it beat SEC teams?
 
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droski said:
My only point all along is that yes the SEC is the best, but the gap between the SEC and the rest of the bcs is not what you guys think it is.
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Not when USC is included. But take USC out and take out the top SEC program recently (Florida or LSU?) and the gap is huge. Like I said, Cal is the top competition for USC in the Pac 10 and they got humiliated in Knoxville. Your players and coach seemed shellshocked in their post game interviews discussing the stadium, atmosphere, and team speed. Thing is, Neyland Stadium's noise and atmosphere is not an anomoly in the SEC...it's the norm. And the speed that Tennessee has is seen throughout the SEC. As Cal found out last year, playing on the road in the SEC is NOTHING like playing on the road in the Pac 10.

It's simple- where does the talent go? Looking at the recruiting rankings every year, it's plain to see that more talent goes to the SEC BY FAR than the Pac 10 or anywhere else.
 
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