SEC teams will take notice of a Kiffin hire

[AmoebaVol]

I’m telling you right now, Florida fan is secretly disgruntled they went out and hired a ho-hum guy like Mullen ... and will be pissed if we go hire Kiffin.

 

[livefaith]

Hitler was a very charismatic and strong leader too. That doesn't mean I would want him resurrected to run things in Germany again. OK, maybe that's a bit much but y'all get the point.

And by the way, Saban and serious Bammer fans were flat out DONE with Lane. He was finished there regardless of the crap job he took.

 

[jimed1]

We're already the laughingstock of college football. Might as well check the "battered wife syndrome" box too and accept Kiffin back because "he's a different person now".

I mean, setting football Xs and Os aside for a moment, there were some serious issues surrounding Kiffin the last time, and he was only in Knoxville for like 11 months. Off the top of my head, there was:

- the hostess gate scandal
- his 1st recruiting class completely disintegrated. In fact, maybe the only worthwhile long time contributor from that class was Daniel Hood, who had a MAJOR red flag coming in (to his credit was completely clean his entire time at UT as far as I know). The rest of the class either left, didn't pan out, or ended up in prison.
- he thought it was wise to needle the SEC office to the point where they were publicly reprimanding him
- someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it heavily speculated (or maybe proven) that he wrecked his vehicle with it being highly likely that alcohol was involved?

Do you guys really think he's grown up? Or maybe he seems like a good fit for us now in this moment as an "us against the world" arrogant mindset? I agree he brings a lot to the table in terms of offensive coaching. Outside of that...count me out.

Did he do stuff like this at USC or did he learn by pushing the limits at UT in his first year as a college HC?

 

[jimed1]

Hitler was a very charismatic and strong leader too. That doesn't mean I would want him resurrected to run things in Germany again. OK, maybe that's a bit much but y'all get the point.

And by the way, Saban and serious Bammer fans were flat out DONE with Lane. He was finished there regardless of the crap job he took.

Bama fans are spoiled like everyone else and used Lane as the goat when they lost. Bama lost to Ole Miss 43-37 in 2015 and they blamed Lane for not scoring enough points instead of Kirby Smart for his defense giving up 43. Go figure.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Hitler was a very charismatic and strong leader too. That doesn't mean I would want him resurrected to run things in Germany again. OK, maybe that's a bit much but y'all get the point.

And by the way, Saban and serious Bammer fans were flat out DONE with Lane. He was finished there regardless of the crap job he took.

Okay, I had to laugh a bit. Pretty much agree, I am actually shocked we are even having this conversation on a Vol forum.

 

[dgcarter43]

Kiffy is a pompous a@@ for sure but he can actually coach - and has PROVEN that both at Bumma and FAU. We could put up with that because we think he will WIN. There is no doubt in my mind that within 3 years (and likely much sooner) a Kiffen led team would be a major problem for ANY team. Can he bring a Natty here? Dont know but it would be a fun rah rah time going at it. He is a Bruce Pearl kind of hire. High risk, high reward.

Kiffen would be on his best behavior for first few years I think and has learned his lessons on some areas. Biggest danger would be down the road perhaps once he is massively successful. At this point, its a risk I would be willing to take.

Put a clause in his contract that, if he steps out of line in regards to sanctions, he gets nothing if fired. His dad said he realizes this would be his last best chance at a big time position and he will not blow it!

 

[Crazy Ivan]

I will take notice of how many mattresses are burned.

He is a good game day play caller but he is douche of a person.... that isn't going to change. I am so confused, Tennessee doesn't hire one guy because fans scream a ethical/moral character issue - some of the same fans scream to hire Lamo after he already burned down the program once. I'm so confused.

Don' worry about it. It won't effect you.

 

[Teirnon]

As Tennessee again finds itself engulfed in flames, Lane Kiffin waits by his phone - CBSSports.com

 

[LSU-SIU]

Don' worry about it. It won't effect you.

Well, it won't effect anyone on the forum directly. I've been here (forum) for 8 years, most of my immediate family actually lives in Tennessee, and I am a big Vols fan which you can see from my post history... I did go to LSU, and lived most of my childhood in Louisiana but actually I don't live but across the border from Tennessee a little bit now.

Yes, I would like to see Tennessee make a good hire, Lamo wasn't it the first time, he isn't it this time. imo I don't say that in spite, Lamo was a doucebag before he got to Tennessee, he was a douchebag at Tennessee, he was a douche bag after he left Tennessee.... and he is a douchebag now.

I am grateful to most Tennessee fans on this board as this board has some of the best and welcoming bunch on the internet, generally speaking. Now some of the visitors from other teams, not so much, including from time to time horrible LSU fans. With that said, its just my opinion that its not a good idea, obviously it was horrible last time... not sure its going to turn out different this time.

:hi:

 

[DonDiego]

Well, it won't effect anyone on the forum directly. I've been here (forum) for 8 years, most of my immediate family actually lives in Tennessee, and I am a big Vols fan which you can see from my post history... I did go to LSU, and lived most of my childhood in Louisiana but actually I don't live but across the border from Tennessee a little bit now.

Yes, I would like to see Tennessee make a good hire, Lamo wasn't it the first time, he isn't it this time. imo I don't say that in spite, Lamo was a doucebag before he got to Tennessee, he was a douchebag at Tennessee, he was a douche bag after he left Tennessee.... and he is a douchebag now.

I am grateful to most Tennessee fans on this board as this board has some of the best and welcoming bunch on the internet, generally speaking. Now some of the visitors from other teams, not so much, including from time to time horrible LSU fans. With that said, its just my opinion that its not a good idea, obviously it was horrible last time... not sure its going to turn out different this time.

:hi:

confirmed all time record for the use of the word douchebag in a post...

 

[LSU-SIU]

confirmed all time record for the use of the word douchebag in a post...

That word seems to be the one that really capture the essence of the man. I think evil is too much, difficult is not enough... douche bag seems about right.

(Up voted)

 

[BTS]

That is Tennessee fans throwing that up, sure, I wouldn't want the guy for other reasons. One guy might have done something, the other guy you know does stuff and keeps doing it... Tennessee fans had a front row seat, if I remember correctly.

I actually think this is an insane conversation, baffling would be an understatement. Good luck guys.

He was there when it was going on and we should have stayed away from him for that reason alone.

 

[BTS]

We're already the laughingstock of college football. Might as well check the "battered wife syndrome" box too and accept Kiffin back because "he's a different person now".

I mean, setting football Xs and Os aside for a moment, there were some serious issues surrounding Kiffin the last time, and he was only in Knoxville for like 11 months. Off the top of my head, there was:

- the hostess gate scandal
- his 1st recruiting class completely disintegrated. In fact, maybe the only worthwhile long time contributor from that class was Daniel Hood, who had a MAJOR red flag coming in (to his credit was completely clean his entire time at UT as far as I know). The rest of the class either left, didn't pan out, or ended up in prison.
- he thought it was wise to needle the SEC office to the point where they were publicly reprimanding him
- someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it heavily speculated (or maybe proven) that he wrecked his vehicle with it being highly likely that alcohol was involved?

Do you guys really think he's grown up? Or maybe he seems like a good fit for us now in this moment as an "us against the world" arrogant mindset? I agree he brings a lot to the table in terms of offensive coaching. Outside of that...count me out.

the hostesses are something that every school does.
the rest of the class left or didnt pan out on Dooleys watch.
the only place i ever heard the car wreck alcohol thing was on this board after he left and everyone was pissed at him.
I dont care about Lane Kiffin the coach in 2009 all i care about is Lane Kiffin the coach today. he is our best shot and being relevant in the SEC again. Lets move on from the past .

 

[TheTimeIsNow]

Steve Spurrier was a complete douche to Tennessee but you all would take him in a heart beat. I hate to say it but Kiffin is a Spurrier jr. He can and will win.

 

[Cdywolfe]

One is rumor or an allegation.... Lamo is a douche... that is pretty much taken as fact. He set Tennessee football back years... I would say most will agree with that.

Either way, my guess... if you polled people across the country as to who as the least ethical/moral character in all of college football... may guess would be Lamo by a mile.... I don't even think its close.

The only think that is more strange than Lamo, is Tennessee fans wanting him back. Each his own.

First, I highly doubt he'd be voted the least ethical coach. Second, if he did, it would show nothing more than how incredibly stupid the average person is and easily they'll let their emotions overtake any objectivity.

Anybody who thinks immaturity is the worst thing you can find in a college football coach is nothing but a fool.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Well, it won't effect anyone on the forum directly. I've been here (forum) for 8 years, most of my immediate family actually lives in Tennessee, and I am a big Vols fan which you can see from my post history... I did go to LSU, and lived most of my childhood in Louisiana but actually I don't live but across the border from Tennessee a little bit now.

Yes, I would like to see Tennessee make a good hire, Lamo wasn't it the first time, he isn't it this time. imo I don't say that in spite, Lamo was a doucebag before he got to Tennessee, he was a douchebag at Tennessee, he was a douche bag after he left Tennessee.... and he is a douchebag now.

I am grateful to most Tennessee fans on this board as this board has some of the best and welcoming bunch on the internet, generally speaking. Now some of the visitors from other teams, not so much, including from time to time horrible LSU fans. With that said, its just my opinion that its not a good idea, obviously it was horrible last time... not sure its going to turn out different this time.

:hi:

Everyone has different opinions. I never considered him a douchebag. I thought of him as immature punk at times who was inexperienced at being an SEC coach, but that was 8 years ago. He has now been a HC at 2 other schools, one a premier school, and was directly under Saban for a couple of years, so got to watch and learn from the Master.

Granted, he still can be a complete troll on twitter, but as others have pointed out, he is the Social Media Age version of Spurrier. And trolling only sucks when you are the ones being trolled. If he was our coach and trolling others? Cool. Ask Florida fans if Spurrier's trolling UT bothered them.

He will bring excitement to the program. He will excite recruits. He knows how to develop QBs and run a first class offense.

Will a compliance officer have to live in his office? Probably, but the same would have been true if Gruden had been hired.

Eff it. We are teetering on the edge of Irrelevance, and if we don't get a Kiffin or a Tee who can excite the fanbase and recruits, as well as our current commits, we sink to the bottom of the SEC for awhile.

Edit: I guess we are already at the bottom of the SEC.

Nothing against you personally because you are an ok rival poster, but I don't give a ratz azz what other fanbases might think of us rehiring Kiffin.

 

[Model12]

Put a clause in his contract that, if he steps out of line in regards to sanctions, he gets nothing if fired. His dad said he realizes this would be his last best chance at a big time position and he will not blow it!

I like your thoughts. I say:

1.Pay structure - base is 2M. Win the east, add 1M. Win the SEC, add another 1M. Win it all, add another 1.5M.

2. First 2 years' salary goes into escrow, until 1 year after he leaves here (for whatever reason). If you get us on probation, we keep the money, and sue for damages on top of that.

3. Buyout is super high for the first 5 years, then drops to reasonable levels in sustaining years. We have a drop-you-at-any-time clause for the first 2 years. Pay attention dummy!!!

4. We have 2 birddogs attached at your hip 24/7/365 to keep you from doing stupid crap. They get paid from your salary (in escrow). No personal twitter unless it goes thru the birddogs.

5. Act like an adult or get fined by the AD (hopefully Blackburn at that time).

6. Respect Tennessee, or GTFO.

I still don't trust you, nor do I trust the school to do an unusual contract like this. Now we can see if he is serious about being a grown-up.

 

[DonDiego]

Ok, many people on VN, along with other forums and social media, banded together to make the Schiano thing not happen (I've made my views on that one clear in other threads). So, what do we do to make the Kiffin thing happen?

If VN can do one, we should be able to accomplish the other, right? What's the POA?

 

[illinoisvolfan1]

I really don't give a Sh!t what the guy does as long as he wins, keeps his players out of jail and not on academic probation, and keeps the program out of trouble with the NCAA. And doesn't molest children.

 

[PACKERVOL]

He cheated on us once, and he'll do it again.

 

[utvolfan98]

somebody post a poll...Kiffin vs Gundy. i'd be willing to bet that Kiffin wins.