SEC Football Preview 2016: Measuring Each Coach's Effectiveness

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Measuring Each Coach's Effectiveness

Below are some excerpts that talk about UT. I highly recommend reading the article.

Butch is 5th in the conference at winning games he shouldn't. Record: 3-20

He is 4th in the conference at winning games he should. Record: 30-1

He is 7th in the conference at winning tossups. Record: 30-21

Note these records span the coaches entire head coaching career.

One of the hot button issues in the SEC this offseason has been whether Tennessee can break through and win its first East crown in a almost decade. On the skeptics' side, some of the arguments against have been, say, critiques that Joshua Dobbs isn't as good a passer as some people assume.

However, a lot of the dissenting opinions have been that people don't know if they can trust Butch Jones as a coach. The way in which his team gave up leads in losses to Oklahoma, Florida, and Arkansas a year ago certainly plays into that. However, OU was about ten points better than the Vols a year ago according to the year-end S&P+ figures. Putting the Sooners on the ropes spoke highly of what the team could do, even if it couldn't seal the deal. And though dropping tossups to the Gators and Razorbacks was not great, UT won tossups against Georgia and Northwestern. Winning half of your tossups is pretty much implied by what the word "tossup" means, and over the long haul, Jones has won 58% of them.

Using the early S&P+ numbers and a very simplistic method, I estimated a win total of about 9.5 for UT. I can now add some extra context here using Jones's track record. The Vols still will likely lose to Alabama and still will probably beat the eight teams they're more than a touchdown better than on the schedule. That leaves three tossups, but the Vols are better than all three of their tossup opponents. Jones has won 64% of tossups when his team has been at least a point better than his opponent in S&P+, which is roughly winning two of three.

That would suggest rounding him up from 9.5 to ten wins, and a ten-win regular season should qualify as him breaking through. The S&P+ numbers aren't infallible—the final figures aren't even out in a single set yet—but them combined with what Jones has been doing over his nine seasons as a head coach suggest this really is the year for Tennessee to get the kind of win total the fans have been thirsting for.

Of course, it also only implies a 6-2 SEC record, and whether or not that's good enough to win the East's bid to Atlanta will probably depend on tiebreakers with Florida and/or Georgia. Even as the SEC East has lacked a true power team more often than not in the eight years since Tennessee's last SEC Championship Game appearance, the East's champion had worse than a 7-1 record just one time (2010).

Jones: Two of his three victories in games he shouldn't have won were over SEC teams, but only one was as an SEC coach. That one was in 2013 when he prevented South Carolina from getting a second splattering at the hands of Auburn in Atlanta. The other was his 2011 Liberty Bowl win over Vanderbilt while head coach of Cincy.
 
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This year defines Jones, a champion, a subpar coach or a solid coach.

Honest Q. What if he goes ...

10-2,

Loses in ATL,

Wins a close one in the bowl,

Finishes 11-3,

... which one does that make him?

East Champion?
Can't win the SEC Championship?
Solid 4th Yr coach?
Subpar with a Playoff Roster?
 
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Measuring Each Coach's Effectiveness

Below are some excerpts that talk about UT. I highly recommend reading the article.

Butch is 5th in the conference at winning games he shouldn't. Record: 3-20

He is 4th in the conference at winning games he should. Record: 30-1

He is 7th in the conference at winning tossups. Record: 30-21

Note these records span the coaches entire head coaching career.


Interesting OP. But, I have a major problem with this idea of "Measuring Effectiveness" based on a scale of Should/Shouldn't/Tossup.

Why? Because @ 50% of a college coach's effectiveness is directly tied to recruiting, and not game day execution.

The idea of being favored or not, is heavily based on perceived talent on the field. Saban, for example, should not have had a tossup or underdog game for the past 5 years. He's considered the greatest based on RESULTS. Those results are based on the fact that he's won on the recruiting trail.

I could see "best game day results" as a measure. But "best coach" is the one who get's it done, period. The idea of "coaching" is impossible to separate from recruiting at the collegiate level.
 
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Jones and team 120 are in the drivers seat for 2016, they have a very good chance to claim the SEC east
 
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Honest Q. What if he goes ...

10-2,

Loses in ATL,

Wins a close one in the bowl,

Finishes 11-3,

... which one does that make him?

East Champion?
Can't win the SEC Championship?

Subpar with a Playoff Roster?

If that happened, it's possible, if not likely, that two of the losses were to the same team, and that team is a final four NCS team.

And, they would probably play in a bowl against a top 10 team, so winning a close one on a neutral field is big, IMO.

I'm disappointed every time they lose, but with a little time to vent, you'd have to consider it progress.

I'm going with "Solid fourth year."
 
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Will Jones take solid control of his future at UT or perhaps write his own epitaph?
Own It Vols
 
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Interesting OP. But, I have a major problem with this idea of "Measuring Effectiveness" based on a scale of Should/Shouldn't/Tossup.

Why? Because @ 50% of a college coach's effectiveness is directly tied to recruiting, and not game day execution.

The idea of being favored or not, is heavily based on perceived talent on the field. Saban, for example, should not have had a tossup or underdog game for the past 5 years. He's considered the greatest based on RESULTS. Those results are based on the fact that he's won on the recruiting trail.

I could see "best game day results" as a measure. But "best coach" is the one who get's it done, period. The idea of "coaching" is impossible to separate from recruiting at the collegiate level.

That's a fair assessment. I don't think any data should be taken as gospel (wasn't there a big stats guy on here that said his data proved Saban wasn't a great coach). You can make it fit whatever agenda you have. However, you should note that the requirements for should/shouldn't/tossups were based on the betting spread from Vegas, which I think takes into account recruiting.
 
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Interesting article, one thing stood out to me...Why in the hell did S. Carolina hire Muschamp?
 
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Bottom line is CBJ and CO. Have to make it to ATL. If any upper tier coach in this league were coaching this team, they would have them in the SEC title game IMO. 2016 has been the year most reasonable fans and analysts pointed to and said this is the year. The upcoming season will be very telling of how good or bad CBJ is as a coach.
 
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Bottom line is CBJ and CO. Have to make it to ATL. If any upper tier coach in this league were coaching this team, they would have them in the SEC title game IMO. 2016 has been the year most reasonable fans and analysts pointed to and said this is the year. The upcoming season will be very telling of how good or bad CBJ is as a coach.

You can lead a horse to water, buy you cannot make him drink. This season is not all on Butch. Football is a team sport. Butch must make the right decisions in the games. However, the players have to do their part and perform up to expected levels. If both of those things hapoen, then we will be SEC and possibly national champions.
 
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If that happened, it's possible, if not likely, that two of the losses were to the same team, and that team is a final four NCS team.

And, they would probably play in a bowl against a top 10 team, so winning a close one on a neutral field is big, IMO.

I'm disappointed every time they lose, but with a little time to vent, you'd have to consider it progress.

I'm going with "Solid fourth year."

I think it matters how we lose those games. Do we not get the break we need? Do we lose a key player? If it an Oklahoma type loss (remember we lost our defensive captain) then I'd be ok. If it's a Florida type loss then we never learned anything from last season.

We are losing a lot of talent after this season, that's why I feel this is the year we need to get it done. If we get to SEC championship, it will boost our recruiting and build for years to come, win and it gets even better. This year will be fun and will setup great years to come.
 
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I don't care about Butch's overall record, his best team got trucked by Dooley.

Many corrections have to be made. Remember "get 1% better every day."
 
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I don't care about Butch's overall record, his best team got trucked by Dooley.

Many corrections have to be made. Remember "get 1% better every day."

Team 120 hasn't played Dooley and on paper Team 120 is clearly his best team.:crazy:
 
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