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Tnwoodsman
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If we are the team that finishes 6-2 and and some team in the west finishes 7-1 then it gives us a chance to redeem ourselves much like the Auburn game last year. At least we had one final chance and if the loser can't manage more than the Peach Bowl then just too bad.... they should have won it if they want something better.
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It's real simple folks...and many of you have hit the nail on the head...either all conferences have one or none have them....as far as conf. cg's go.
I love the fact that the SEC set the precedent on the conf. CG. I love the fact that the Big 12, ACC, and a couple of other smaller conf. have followed suit. At least now we're not the only ones who have this "penalty" game. Ask VaTech...
But before there is any play off in CFB, All conf. champions should be decided the same way. And all conf champions should have a shot in this play off. Until this happens, all conf champ games are penalty games, noting more. ANd a little side note about the Big 12...what a freakin' Joke. you call that a championship game? If you are a Big 12 fan, you should be embarrassed. the big 12 in my opinion is no better than the Big East this year. I don't care who's in it, the whole conf. sucked except for TX.
Notre Dame has to get on a level playing feild. What they have right now could be the equivalent of a monopoly, when you consider the rev. sharing the conf. have to par take in, vs. the qualifier for ND to reep the benefit of a BCS game...
This whole system sucks, the bowls suck and it's purely media driven and monye hungry. there is no tradition in CFB anymore, its a cash cow, and that's it. Presidents got greedy, and the networks and sponsors were more than happy to feed the machine.
nothing will make this fair until there is a true playoff or we just go back to the good old days....and by true play off, i mean a 16 team tournament...not a plus one, not an 8 game play off....think about this...what if there were a plus one this year....you telling me that the winner of the TX USC game isn't the national champion? that after that game they'd have to go play PSU or ND? talk about a penalty....and as for the 8 team playoff, well you'd just open up the door for a conf. champion from a BCS conf. or the #9 team to bitch about "we deserve....".
For a playoff to work there has to be a qualifier, not your position in the polls....yeah, the polls are real accurate of grading the best teams huh? we were pre season #3. Michigan was #3. Iowa was top 5. OSU was top 5...as were UF, UGA, Bama etc...and PSU wasn't ranked...yep, where you are in the polls is REAL accuarate...so that should be considered a qualifier for getting in? NOPE.
you take ALL conference champions, 11 of which i think there are...and 5 at large teams...maybe these at large teams come from the highest ranked non conf. champions in the BCS...you seed them based on their rankings after the conf. chamions are crowned, and go play....at least then, it truly is decided on the feild and there is a qualifier....not just being lucky enough to be ranked 8th in the final poll. And the "wild cards" wouldn't be known unitl after the conf. champs are decided...
And for those of you that say that the MAC champ doesn't deserve to get in over a #10 ranked BCS team that DIDN'T win it's conf., get over it....if they're that good, they'll take care of business...
either way, everybody wins...your going to have more Big Conf. teams in anyway bases on the Wild CArd teams, but even the little guy gets his shot and gets some moentary beneift from being in the playoff....and the polls still matter, the big confs. still get the check and the fans get one of the best sporing events on the planet---a college football playoff, not a champion decied by someone's opinion and a computer.
have a great day. :rock:
I love the fact that the SEC set the precedent on the conf. CG. I love the fact that the Big 12, ACC, and a couple of other smaller conf. have followed suit. At least now we're not the only ones who have this "penalty" game. Ask VaTech...
But before there is any play off in CFB, All conf. champions should be decided the same way. And all conf champions should have a shot in this play off. Until this happens, all conf champ games are penalty games, noting more. ANd a little side note about the Big 12...what a freakin' Joke. you call that a championship game? If you are a Big 12 fan, you should be embarrassed. the big 12 in my opinion is no better than the Big East this year. I don't care who's in it, the whole conf. sucked except for TX.
Notre Dame has to get on a level playing feild. What they have right now could be the equivalent of a monopoly, when you consider the rev. sharing the conf. have to par take in, vs. the qualifier for ND to reep the benefit of a BCS game...
This whole system sucks, the bowls suck and it's purely media driven and monye hungry. there is no tradition in CFB anymore, its a cash cow, and that's it. Presidents got greedy, and the networks and sponsors were more than happy to feed the machine.
nothing will make this fair until there is a true playoff or we just go back to the good old days....and by true play off, i mean a 16 team tournament...not a plus one, not an 8 game play off....think about this...what if there were a plus one this year....you telling me that the winner of the TX USC game isn't the national champion? that after that game they'd have to go play PSU or ND? talk about a penalty....and as for the 8 team playoff, well you'd just open up the door for a conf. champion from a BCS conf. or the #9 team to bitch about "we deserve....".
For a playoff to work there has to be a qualifier, not your position in the polls....yeah, the polls are real accurate of grading the best teams huh? we were pre season #3. Michigan was #3. Iowa was top 5. OSU was top 5...as were UF, UGA, Bama etc...and PSU wasn't ranked...yep, where you are in the polls is REAL accuarate...so that should be considered a qualifier for getting in? NOPE.
you take ALL conference champions, 11 of which i think there are...and 5 at large teams...maybe these at large teams come from the highest ranked non conf. champions in the BCS...you seed them based on their rankings after the conf. chamions are crowned, and go play....at least then, it truly is decided on the feild and there is a qualifier....not just being lucky enough to be ranked 8th in the final poll. And the "wild cards" wouldn't be known unitl after the conf. champs are decided...
And for those of you that say that the MAC champ doesn't deserve to get in over a #10 ranked BCS team that DIDN'T win it's conf., get over it....if they're that good, they'll take care of business...
either way, everybody wins...your going to have more Big Conf. teams in anyway bases on the Wild CArd teams, but even the little guy gets his shot and gets some moentary beneift from being in the playoff....and the polls still matter, the big confs. still get the check and the fans get one of the best sporing events on the planet---a college football playoff, not a champion decied by someone's opinion and a computer.
have a great day. :rock:
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I like the conference championship game. It was an innovation when we started this. Also, with a 12 team conference and no championship game you face the possibility of two undefeated SEC teams in a single season. Who wants to see that scenario? And for the people who seem to feel bad for LSU, do any of you really think that UGA would be going to a BCS game if they had lost or not even played in the CC game? We had one 1-loss team this year. There was no way the SEC was getting more than one BCS bowl appearance and LSU had to know that going into the game.
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This is not the WHOLE picture. Yes, the BCS eliminated the conference tie-ins when it came to #1 versus #2, but that's it! There are two problems. First, and foremost, it has not done anything to decide who is #1 and #2. It is still a subjective system doing that (it is not objective just because it is by computer -- the computer is programmed subjectively to acount for items deemed appropriate by the people running it). The BCS does not truly tell us who is best. It tells us who is better between two teams. That's all.
Second, the BCS is evil because it is a distraction from the real problem, which is that you don't have to play your way into the championship game by running a juggernaut of toughest opponents. Now, I've watched USC and that is a special team, no doubt. But shouldn't they have to play some really good teams to get to the championship game? Too many PAC-10 cupcakes, in my opinion.
I'm not saying UGA or LSU or UF would beat USC this year. But if they had to play the likes of those teams over the course of a year, then I am not so sure they come out undefeated. How about Ohio State at this point? Or Penn State? You think those teams could give USC or Texas a run for their money?
With a properly bracketed playoff system of the top 8 teams, I think the odds of USC and Texas left standing for the college Super Bowl is only about one in five.
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I like the playoffs too and I think it would work great. But the thing is: There isn't going to be a playoff. I read somewhere that the big 10 presidents have said they will leave the NCAA if a playoff system is installed and most college presidents and boards have come out against it. The best we can hope for would be the "plus one" thing. We can harp on wanting a playoff til doomsday but it isn't going to happen.
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It's already been said that had LSU taken care of our business, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Although there is a good point in that the conferences with championship games seem to have a disadvantage. But it's one step closer to a playoff. We'll just have to suffer until the rest of the NCAA gets a clue.
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Two things I know and a third I'm about 98% on.
#1. Orangewhiteblood and Lawgator have earned my respect with their insightful posts on this site, and third, the playoff system for upper college division football will come to be about the same time marijuana is made legal, when all the old law/rule makers (politcians,etc) step aside and turn it over to the youngbloods. (and I don't even smoke--anything)!
#1. Orangewhiteblood and Lawgator have earned my respect with their insightful posts on this site, and third, the playoff system for upper college division football will come to be about the same time marijuana is made legal, when all the old law/rule makers (politcians,etc) step aside and turn it over to the youngbloods. (and I don't even smoke--anything)!
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Oh come on la, when we played LSU everyone was pulling for them. The guy on Cold Pizza even went as far to say "how dare we beat that team after what they've been through" or something to that effect.
LSU lost to a pitiful Tennessee team at home....
Penn State lost to a decent Michigan team by 1 second
Virginia Tech had only lost to Miami prior to this past weekend.
LSU losing to us should've knocked them out of the top 25 the way we played this year... :angel:
I'm not saying the hurricane stuff is the ONLY reason they were up above the other one loss teams, I was just saying that it's a POSSIBILITY that there was some sympathy for them... :hi:
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I won't discount the sympathy part, but they did win some big games in there...Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas....Florida, Arz St....
for me, the loss to TN definitely hurt, esp. as our season went in to the crapper...but also don't forget they played App St as well....you get no love in the SOS category for playing D 1AA schools....
Were they a top 3 team? no. Top 10, sure, i'll buy that...1 loss in the SEC, you should automatically get top 10 love. But losing to us was equivalent of losing to Ole Miss in most years and the App St game...whew, man....go get a sun belt team at least..you got ULL and ULM up the road for goodness sakes!
for me, the loss to TN definitely hurt, esp. as our season went in to the crapper...but also don't forget they played App St as well....you get no love in the SOS category for playing D 1AA schools....
Were they a top 3 team? no. Top 10, sure, i'll buy that...1 loss in the SEC, you should automatically get top 10 love. But losing to us was equivalent of losing to Ole Miss in most years and the App St game...whew, man....go get a sun belt team at least..you got ULL and ULM up the road for goodness sakes!
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