SEC / Big 10 takeover of CFP the beginning of the end .....

[sami]

Just a bit of hyperbole there, but to me the plan for auto bids to the CFP is an awful idea that kills so much that is potentially good about the expanded playoffs. Now I'm not a fan of expanding anyway, as my feeling is that a max of 8 simply seeded by the rankings, with the first round in college stadiums, would be perfect.

But this 4+4+2+2+1+1 idea is just a pure money grab that kills much of the late season excitement of chasing playoff bids, as we'll pretty much know who's in, who's out, and who has no shot at getting there. It essentially becomes an invitational event.

Obviously the bottom line is all Sankey and Petitti are concerned with, but a 16-team event going straight off the rankings, with no byes and the five conference champs getting auto bids would seem to be the best way to placate all parties - being a conference champ is rewarded, and the SEC and Big 10 will have at least four teams in (well, at least the SEC will) virtually every season.

They will go with the auto bid 14-team deal initially, and it remains to be seen how it will do over the first 4-5 years before they can change it again. Interested in the thoughts of the forum about this as it seems to be a done deal.

Big Ten, SEC set to unveil grand plans for College Football Playoff change ... but is anyone else on board?

No drastic decisions are expected on Tuesday, but the two power conferences will begin their quest for a CFP takeover

www.cbssports.com

 

[LouderVol]

not a fan of any automatic qualifiers. SEC included. if you want the best, it should be all "at large" bids.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

IMO scheduling needs to be fixed before we get some CFP model that works for everyone. I think there needs to be scheduling uniformity among P4 Conferences. Everyone should play the same # of conference games and also have at least one OOC P4 team on the schedule. In the Nebraska thread in the FF a lot of people are saying we should schedule like Indiana did last year. I hate that . We’re de-emphasizing/devaluing the regular season by scheduling a bunch of Directional State schools to avoid real OOC matchups during the regular season. I think it’s bad for college football and it also short changes the fans.

 

[sami]

IMO scheduling needs to be fixed before we get some CFP model that works for everyone. I think there needs to be scheduling uniformity among P4 Conferences. Everyone should play the same # of conference games and also have at least one OOC P4 team on the schedule. In the Nebraska thread in the FF a lot of people are saying we should schedule like Indiana did last year. I hate that . We’re de-emphasizing/devaluing the regular season by scheduling a bunch of Directional State schools to avoid real OOC matchups during the regular season. I think it’s bad for college football and it also short changes the fans.

Agree with regard to wanting more competitive football, but there's one huge problem with that - all conferences aren't even close to being created equally. Our schedule was no harder than Indiana's except that we had an SEC schedule and they had a Big 10 schedule, where the only really tough games are OSU and maybe PSU. The Big 10 is an 18-team league with 3-4 good teams.

The same can be said for the Big 12 and ACC, except they have no one as good every year as OSU. Playing a 9-game SEC schedule puts us at an immediate disadvantage to the other leagues, which is the one point where I agree with Sankey wanting guaranteed auto bids. Petitti should be laughed out of the room for asking for that.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Agree with regard to wanting more competitive football, but there's one huge problem with that - all conferences aren't even close to being created equally. Our schedule was no harder than Indiana's except that we had an SEC schedule and they had a Big 10 schedule, where the only really tough games are OSU and maybe PSU. The Big 10 is an 18-team league with 3-4 good teams.

The same can be said for the Big 12 and ACC, except they have no one as good every year as OSU. Playing a 9-game SEC schedule puts us at an immediate disadvantage to the other leagues, which is the one point where I agree with Sankey wanting guaranteed auto bids. Petitti should be laughed out of the room for asking for that.

I agree with what you’re saying about the conferences not being equal, but that’s kind of the point of the AQ bids if everyone is playing the same # of conference games. I very much want a scheduling agreement w/ the B1G because I think it’s good for football and it would be good for the SEC. The B1G is pretty much banking on the idea that Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, USC and maybe Washington, Wisconsin and longshot Iowa can get a bid. The SEC has UGA, Bama, Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, maybe Mizzou, Auburn and USCjr all competing for CFP bids . I would say that SEC has a better chance at getting more at large bids than the B1G bc top to bottom the SEC is much deeper.

There’s no perfect formula, but I still would like to see every Power 4 team play 10 Power 4 games if the conference schedule doesn’t go to 9 games. I don’t want the best regular season in sports to be sacrificed for the betterment of 4 games in December and January.

 

[sami]

I agree with what you’re saying about the conferences not being equal, but that’s kind of the point of the AQ bids if everyone is playing the same # of conference games. I very much want a scheduling agreement w/ the B1G because I think it’s good for football and it would be good for the SEC. The B1G is pretty much banking on the idea that Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, USC and maybe Washington, Wisconsin and longshot Iowa can get a bid. The SEC has UGA, Bama, Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, maybe Mizzou, Auburn and USCjr all competing for CFP bids . I would say that SEC has a better chance at getting more at large bids than the B1G bc top to bottom the SEC is much deeper.

There’s no perfect formula, but I still would like to see every Power 4 team play 10 Power 4 games if the conference schedule doesn’t go to 9 games. I don’t want the best regular season in sports to be sacrificed for the betterment of 4 games in December and January.

Agreed, and I guess that means I support the four SEC auto bids after all, even if it isn't good for CFB as a whole.

Honestly, I'd be just fine playing a 10-game SEC schedule with a couple of cream puff games to fund small schools followed by a four team SEC playoff for the championship. This past season was so sickening with the Big 10 bias that I really have no need to see anyone outside the SEC.

 

[bigmac]

Totally agree, the auto-bid system feels like it's sucking the drama out of the regular season. The chase for those playoff spots is what makes college football so exciting! A straight-up ranked 16-team playoff with conference champs getting a nod seems way fairer and keeps more teams in the hunt for longer. This whole thing just feels like the big conferences trying to lock in their spots and rake in more cash.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Agreed, and I guess that means I support the four SEC auto bids after all, even if it isn't good for CFB as a whole.

Honestly, I'd be just fine playing a 10-game SEC schedule with a couple of cream puff games to fund small schools followed by a four team SEC playoff for the championship. This past season was so sickening with the Big 10 bias that I really have no need to see anyone outside the SEC.

I want to take that bias away as well, and This is actually part of the reason i want the the SEC/Big 10 challenge. I think the SEC would beat the Big 10 H2H more times than not, and it usually being around 10-6 or 11-5 in favor of the SEC. I want this to happen so when it comes down to who gets that home game in the CFP , maybe the Big 10 team would be coming to our place, instead of going to Columbus or Happy Valley.

FTR, I’m not really big into buying into the media being biased towards the Big 10 schools most of the time , but I will say there are a ton of national writers and personalities from Northwestern and other Big 10 schools who turn their noses up at the SEC. They didn’t seem too upset to see the big bad SEC be taken down a peg or two this past season.

 

[sami]

I want to take that bias away as well, and This is actually part of the reason i want the the SEC/Big 10 challenge. I think the SEC would beat the Big 10 H2H more times than not, and it usually being around 10-6 or 11-5 in favor of the SEC. I want this to happen so when it comes down to who gets that home game in the CFP , maybe the Big 10 team would be coming to our place, instead of going to Columbus or Happy Valley.

FTR, I’m not really big into buying into the media being biased towards the Big 10 schools most of the time , but I will say there are a ton of national writers and personalities from Northwestern and other Big 10 schools who turn their noses up at the SEC. They didn’t seem too upset to see the big bad SEC be taken down a peg or two this past season.

Didn't seem upset? They were downright gleeful, rubbing their noses in the dirt. Scumbags like Dennis Dodd at CBS Sports.com never missed an opportunity to talk up Indiana, Penn State, and the "strength of record" idiocy while referring to SEC teams with three losses after a brutal schedule as "mediocre".

Funny part about it was the same idiot who lectured that SMU and Boise St. belonged in the playoff referred to Penn State's playoff draw as the easiest in the field. It's my fault for reading that crap, but the national media is all based in the north and have been waiting for this for a decade and a half. A few SEC wins won't change the bias.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Didn't seem upset? They were downright gleeful, rubbing their noses in the dirt. Scumbags like Dennis Dodd at CBS Sports.com never missed an opportunity to talk up Indiana, Penn State, and the "strength of record" idiocy while referring to SEC teams with three losses after a brutal schedule as "mediocre".

Funny part about it was the same idiot who lectured that SMU and Boise St. belonged in the playoff referred to Penn State's playoff draw as the easiest in the field. It's my fault for reading that crap, but the national media is all based in the north and have been waiting for this for a decade and a half. A few SEC wins won't change the bias.

Dennis Dodd. Haha. That’s pretty on brand for him. He’s always been a joke. I liked the “the SEC isn’t dominant anymore because everyone can pay players.” The fact that these people think the Big 10 is some bastion of morality is hilarious .