Saban takes a swipe at Kiffin and Fulmer

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from the Memphis Commercial Appeal, from when Saban spoke at the TD Club of Memphis:

Saban thinks Tennessee first-year coach and former Saban assistant Derek Dooley, who just lost to Saban 41-10 on Saturday, is doing a great job despite not yet winning an SEC game yet. "It's not his fault. It's the cumulative effect of mismanagement for several years in terms of what they've done in the program. They are well-coached right now. Look at the players they have. Are they being put in the right places? (Dooley and his staff) are doing the right things. You can take another regime, I'm not going to mention names, I'm not sure where they were going was doing all the right things."
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I'd like to know what they asked him, but I find nothing wrong with what he said. It may not mean what some think it does though. Mismanaging the program includes more than just Fulmer. The last part is definitely about the course of the Lane Train, but the entire thing reads kind of like Nostradamus.
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I hate Kiffin but Saban was holding onto his dear life at the end when he played Kiffin coached UT team.
 
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If it was so clear for everyone, how did you miss it?

He was talking about Hambone and Kiffin. One person got it right.

Might want to change the OP title.....

I suppose we knew this given Saban took him everywhere he went, but it is reassuring to hear the greatest living college football coach speak highly of Dools.
 
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I'm with previous poster, he was speaking of Hammy, and the Kitten debacile.
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utgibbs said:
If it was so clear for everyone, how did you miss it?

He was talking about Hambone and Kiffin. One person got it right.

Might want to change the OP title.....

I suppose we knew this given Saban took him everywhere he went, but it is reassuring to hear the greatest living college football coach speak highly of Dools.
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Sure, just like when Fulmer said he'd have won 7 or 8 games in 2009 he really meant he'd have won 9 or 10. Because saying you'd have won more games with less talent than the previous year is a super modest thing to say.
 
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lego126 said:
I'm with previous poster, he was speaking of Hammy, and the Kitten debacile.
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Without two blocked field goals, those two guys take away a National Championship from Saban. On the other hand, Nick rolled Phil with a .500 team that couldn't get past Louisiana-Monroe.
 
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utgibbs said:
If it was so clear for everyone, how did you miss it?

He was talking about Hambone and Kiffin. One person got it right.

Might want to change the OP title.....

I suppose we knew this given Saban took him everywhere he went, but it is reassuring to hear the greatest living college football coach speak highly of Dools.
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Kiffin was here "several years"?
 
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"It's not his fault. It's the cumulative effect of mismanagement for several years in terms of what they've done in the program.
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Several years means Fulmer's fault >>> Kiffin's fault
 
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Godfatha said:
Kiffin was here "several years"?
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Saban was using some kind of coach speak and doesn't really mean for that to be interpreted with the obvious literal interpretation. I'm sure he has the utmost respect for the coach he pummeled.
 
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Godfatha said:
Kiffin was here "several years"?
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He makes direct reference to Kiff.

Hambone has been here several years.

The coaching fraternity know what a mess Hambone is. Hence, so many "no thank you"s from coaches who would be receiving nice salary increases at a premier school. I'm sure it's common knowledge Hambone was out to do Fulmer in; hence he wouldn't pay for the Michigan OC team. Hence, he fired him in the middle of the season after Fulmer almost took the NC (and the SEC) away from Saban's LSU team.
 
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utgibbs said:
He makes direct reference to Kiff.

Hambone has been here several years.

The coaching fraternity know what a mess Hambone is. Hence, so many "no thank you"s from coaches who would be receiving nice salary increases at a premier school. I'm sure it's common knowledge Hambone was out to do Fulmer in; hence he wouldn't pay for the Michigan OC team. Hence, he fired him in the middle of the season after Fulmer almost took the NC (and the SEC) away from Saban's LSU team.
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Hey look. More made up garbage. He wouldn't pay enough money for a guy that took a job as an assistant offensive line coach, but Clawson made over $300,000. Seems like a real smart assumption there.

And that was Les Miles's uninspired second string LSU squad we played that day.

And you might try looking up the word "direct".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Several years means Fulmer's fault >>> Kiffin's fault
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Wrong. It means Hambone's fault.

The coaching fraternity is well aware of Hambone and his shenanigans.

The Fulmer "mismanagement" with a less talented squad just about cost Saban's LSU team the NC not that long ago. Saban is talking about Hambone. It is well-known in coaching circles Hambone stuck the knife in Fulmer and hamstrung him especially regarding the Michigan OC team.

I forgot all those coaches so eager to take a pay-cut last year they said NO to TN.....
 
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kptvol said:
Hey look. More made up garbage. He wouldn't pay enough money for a guy that took a job as an assistant offensive line coach, but Clawson made over $300,000. Seems like a real smart assumption there.

And that was Les Miles's uninspired second string LSU squad we played that day.

And you might try looking up the word "direct".
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It's well known Hambone wouldn't write the check for Fulmer's first choice. It's actually made ridiculous by what Hambone paid for "his guy" Monte Kiffin. It's well known a lot of coaches decided for a massive pay cut to stay put rather than come to Tennessee. It's Hambone straight up and down. Only the ideologically blinded could assume otherwise.

(Les Miles might have been on the sideline, but it was Saban's team.)
 
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utgibbs said:
Wrong. It means Hambone's fault.

The coaching fraternity is well aware of Hambone and his shenanigans.

The Fulmer "mismanagement" with a less talented squad just about cost Saban's LSU team the NC not that long ago. Saban is talking about Hambone. It is well-known in coaching circles Hambone stuck the knife in Fulmer and hamstrung him especially regarding the Michigan OC team.
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You're so right. I mean, there's no way the Michigan OC would let an NC-winning coach get fired. And I'm sure that guy was so well thought of in the "coaching fraternity" that he'd find a really respectable job somewhere. And clearly the guy we "settled for" was a bum. No way anyone would offer him a job.
 
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