Runningbacks

#101
#101
molsen81 said:
Yeah very funny, but I don't think it's fair to keep things on the hush when we all know Coker's in the doghouse for something. And so what if I make a statement that he should be the starter. That's what everyone else is doing in this thread :realmad:
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it's not an issue if you think he should be the starter.

it's the idea that the staff owes you, the fan, jon doe public, a reason as to why he's not starting or in the doghouse that we're taking issue with.
 
#103
#103
kptvol said:
As I recall, things started off this way:


1. Hardesty, 2. Foster, 3. RS Coker


Then, Hardesty gets injured, Foster comes in and has some great games against Vandy, UK, and such. So next season:


1. Foster, 2. Hardesty, 3. Coker


Now, it's a pretty jumbled mess. Coker came in and had some good games against Vandy, UK, and such. Now people seem to think it should be:


1. Coker, 2. Hardesty/Foster


It seems like they've all had their moments where it seems like one of them is above the rest. None of them have really proven they can carry the load against elite competition yet. I'd prefer to wait before just demanding that one guy get the majority of the carries.
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Coker averaged around 6 yds a carry, while Foster and Hardesty averaged around 3. Thats a big difference.

Both Foster and Hardesty had opportunities against weaker competiion like Vanderbilt to rack up big runs, they simply didn't do it.

IMO Coker goes into fall as the starter, he's earned it.
 
#107
#107
With the question marks at WR, I think we will see Coker and Foster in the backfield together with Coker splitting out to catch passes. This would keep the D on its toes when the handoff/fake goes to Foster.
 
#109
#109
He was an all-purpose back coming out of high school...Im sure he catch well enough...he caught the long one from Lucas Taylor vs. Florida...
 
#110
#110
that was a pretty easy catch. athough sometimes those are the hardest when there is absolutely no one around you
 
#112
#112
Code: 
NAME              CAR   YDS   YPC   LONG    TD   REC  REC-YDS  YPR   LONG   REC-TD 
LaMarcus Coker    108   696   6.4   89(TD)   5    13      168  12.9  48(TD)   1 
Montario Hardesty 107   384   3.6   43(TD)   4     6       54   9.0  22       0 
Arian Foster       91   322   3.5   24       5    11       88   8.0  15       0
Based on '06, you have to lean very heavily towards Coker being the focus of the run game. BUT:

- Does he have the endurance to handle the load if you give him 160+ carries?
- Has he fixed his fumbling problems?
- Is he really "in the doghouse"?

With all those question marks, I could easily see Foster as the main man once again. But IF Coker has managed to hang on to the ball better, I suspect we'll see a lot of him in the first few games. Hardesty and Foster would spell him and Foster will be your short yardage / goal line guy. If Coker has still had fumbling issues, then it will be full blown RB by committee once again.

Edit: How great would it be to see some two-RB sets with Coker in the slot or Hardesty at FB? I'm hoping they manage to exploit this depth.
 
#113
#113
AirGibson said:
Code: 
NAME              CAR   YDS   YPC   LONG    TD   REC  REC-YDS  YPR   LONG   REC-TD 
LaMarcus Coker    108   696   6.4   89(TD)   5    13      168  12.9  48(TD)   1 
Montario Hardesty 107   384   3.6   43(TD)   4     6       54   9.0  22       0 
Arian Foster       91   322   3.5   24       5    11       88   8.0  15       0
Based on '06, you have to lean very heavily towards Coker being the focus of the run game. BUT:

- Does he have the endurance to handle the load if you give him 160+ carries?
- Has he fixed his fumbling problems?
- Is he really "in the doghouse"?

With all those question marks, I could easily see Foster as the main man once again. But IF Coker has managed to hang on to the ball better, I suspect we'll see a lot of him in the first few games. Hardesty and Foster would spell him and Foster will be your short yardage / goal line guy. If Coker has still had fumbling issues, then it will be full blown RB by committee once again.

Edit: How great would it be to see some two-RB sets with Coker in the slot or Hardesty at FB? I'm hoping they manage to exploit this depth.
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Wow . . . Good first post.

Welcome to the board. :hi:
 
#114
#114
Coker is a Reggie Bush or a Rocket type player. You can't make him tote it 30 times but you better give it to him 15 times a game. Our other RB's Montario and Arian are the pounders.

By the way, I don't think Coker is as good as Reggie or Rocket.
 
#115
#115
AirGibson said:
Code: 
NAME              CAR   YDS   YPC   LONG    TD   REC  REC-YDS  YPR   LONG   REC-TD 
LaMarcus Coker    108   696   6.4   89(TD)   5    13      168  12.9  48(TD)   1 
Montario Hardesty 107   384   3.6   43(TD)   4     6       54   9.0  22       0 
Arian Foster       91   322   3.5   24       5    11       88   8.0  15       0
Based on '06, you have to lean very heavily towards Coker being the focus of the run game. BUT:

- Does he have the endurance to handle the load if you give him 160+ carries?
- Has he fixed his fumbling problems?
- Is he really "in the doghouse"?

With all those question marks, I could easily see Foster as the main man once again. But IF Coker has managed to hang on to the ball better, I suspect we'll see a lot of him in the first few games. Hardesty and Foster would spell him and Foster will be your short yardage / goal line guy. If Coker has still had fumbling issues, then it will be full blown RB by committee once again.

Edit: How great would it be to see some two-RB sets with Coker in the slot or Hardesty at FB? I'm hoping they manage to exploit this depth.
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Excellent stuff. Not only are your points good, but you have GOT to tell me how to post a table like that...
 
#116
#116
Vercingetorix said:
Excellent stuff. Not only are your points good, but you have GOT to tell me how to post a table like that...
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- Use Notepad or any text editor / word processor with a fixed pitch font (like Courier).

- Type it up and space it out to where it looks good.

- Copy / Paste it to the message board and enclose it with the CODE tags.
 
#117
#117
AirGibson said:
Code: 
NAME              CAR   YDS   YPC   LONG    TD   REC  REC-YDS  YPR   LONG   REC-TD 
LaMarcus Coker    108   696   6.4   89(TD)   5    13      168  12.9  48(TD)   1 
Montario Hardesty 107   384   3.6   43(TD)   4     6       54   9.0  22       0 
Arian Foster       91   322   3.5   24       5    11       88   8.0  15       0
Based on '06, you have to lean very heavily towards Coker being the focus of the run game. BUT:

- Does he have the endurance to handle the load if you give him 160+ carries?
- Has he fixed his fumbling problems?
- Is he really "in the doghouse"?

With all those question marks, I could easily see Foster as the main man once again. But IF Coker has managed to hang on to the ball better, I suspect we'll see a lot of him in the first few games. Hardesty and Foster would spell him and Foster will be your short yardage / goal line guy. If Coker has still had fumbling issues, then it will be full blown RB by committee once again.

Edit: How great would it be to see some two-RB sets with Coker in the slot or Hardesty at FB? I'm hoping they manage to exploit this depth.
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AirGibson said:
- Use Notepad or any text editor / word processor with a fixed pitch font (like Courier).

- Type it up and space it out to where it looks good.

- Copy / Paste it to the message board and enclose it with the CODE tags.
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Beautiful. Just the CODE tag? I saw that, and figured it couldn't be that easy. Thanks very much; I've been posting miserably formatted tables on here for awhile now.
 
#119
#119
AirGibson said:
Code: 
NAME              CAR   YDS   YPC   LONG    TD   REC  REC-YDS  YPR   LONG   REC-TD 
LaMarcus Coker    108   696   6.4   89(TD)   5    13      168  12.9  48(TD)   1 
Montario Hardesty 107   384   3.6   43(TD)   4     6       54   9.0  22       0 
Arian Foster       91   322   3.5   24       5    11       88   8.0  15       0
Based on '06, you have to lean very heavily towards Coker being the focus of the run game. BUT:

- Does he have the endurance to handle the load if you give him 160+ carries?
- Has he fixed his fumbling problems?
- Is he really "in the doghouse"?

With all those question marks, I could easily see Foster as the main man once again. But IF Coker has managed to hang on to the ball better, I suspect we'll see a lot of him in the first few games. Hardesty and Foster would spell him and Foster will be your short yardage / goal line guy. If Coker has still had fumbling issues, then it will be full blown RB by committee once again.

Edit: How great would it be to see some two-RB sets with Coker in the slot or Hardesty at FB? I'm hoping they manage to exploit this depth.
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I don't think Coker would have a problem with 160 carries. That's only about 13 a game. I'd limit him to about 15 and work him in on some routes or motion out of the backfield.

As far as fumbles go, there's only one rb that has a fumble problem and that's Foster. 3 fumbles in 05 and 3 fumbles in 06 in 91 carries. Coker fumbled once last year.
 
#120
#120
Would anyone be surprised if it was Hardesty having a big year this season? I just realized that Foster came out of nowhere in 2005, Coker showed his stuff in 2006 with Foster's untimely injury, 2007...........? You have to admit that we have not had a consistent RB probably since Cheese. T. Stephens had one sensational year as did Riggs even in mop up duty.
 
#121
#121
I've been cautiously predicting a good season from him since the end of 2006, as have some others around here. Wasn't he the #2 back behind Riggs at the beginning of 2005?
 
#123
#123
molsen81 said:
Would anyone be surprised if it was Hardesty having a big year this season? I just realized that Foster came out of nowhere in 2005, Coker showed his stuff in 2006 with Foster's untimely injury, 2007...........? You have to admit that we have not had a consistent RB probably since Cheese. T. Stephens had one sensational year as did Riggs even in mop up duty.
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Uh. Travis Henry really only had one year where he was the lone lead guy. Same deal with Travis Stephens. Stephens, however, broke Henry's rushing record and contributed to several other seasons (including 1998).
 
#124
#124
TheDeeble said:
I don't think Coker would have a problem with 160 carries. That's only about 13 a game. I'd limit him to about 15 and work him in on some routes or motion out of the backfield.

As far as fumbles go, there's only one rb that has a fumble problem and that's Foster. 3 fumbles in 05 and 3 fumbles in 06 in 91 carries. Coker fumbled once last year.
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I'm not saying Coker can't handle the load, BTW. I'm just saying "We don't know." He hasn't been called on to do that week in, week out yet. I think he could, but 16 or more (in addition to using him as a dump off as they often did) may be pushing it.

Foster had butterfingers, without a doubt. For Coker, I am referring more to the spring events this year like the orange and white game and earlier reports. If I recall, Coker was involved in two different fumbles (though I think one wasn't his fault) in that game and he seemed absolutely pedestrian. Additionally the sentiment has been that fumbling is an issue for him. If that holds true, I would not be surprised to see him on the bench more often.

But personally, I think the kid has earned a shot at getting notable time based on the '06 performance alone.
 
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