Rewatched the game tonight (slowed down the plays), 4 notable observations

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DC Vol said:
Okay, so here's a counter. We got a wake-up call in the 1st Half by allowing a scrappy 2-10 team to hang with us. The stats showed Tennessee was playing significantly better in the 1st Half:

215 yards and 17 points for UT against 120 yards and 14 points for GaState. Okay, it's close but we can button up and let our superior depth/talent win out over time. A lot of teams struggle with scrappy games early in the season.

The 2nd Half, though, showed a pretty nasty story. GaState made the halftime adjustments. GaState won out with superior depth/talent.

3rd Quarter:

40 yards and 3 points (thanks to a short field) for UT against 123 yards and 7 points for GaState

Okay, we'll pull through in the 4th Quarter (I'm not counting the last drive in trash time):

76 yards and 3 points for UT against 120 yards and 17 points (3 from a short field) for GaState



So the "dominated" narrative comes from the fact that a 2-10 Sun Belt team came into Neyland and racked up 243 yards in the 2nd Half and 24 points against 116 and 6 points for us. They outgained us by more than 2:1.


Apparently you haven't learned this lesson, that was taught to us time and time again under Dooley and Jones: It's not how you start a game, it's how you finish it.
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So you’re saying that the final stats were dominating?
 
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ReelfootVol said:
Chaney is so predictable and old school...............1947 style ! Entirely too conservative and his offense is severely outdated. The reason Georgia fans were thrilled when he came to us. The only thing I can say about Chaney is that he beats what we had last year. ............I still believe Pruitt can be a good coach but he sure screwed up when he hired Chaney!!!!!!!!!!!! And futhermore JG is NOT an SEC caliber quarterback. I say this even if he were to win the Heisman Trophy.
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Chaney adjusts to his qbs skill sets. Go back and watch the spring game. It was like Nickolass Cage in “Face off” depending on the qb as to what plays he called.
 
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volmoon said:
So you’re saying that the final stats were dominating?
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After that game I thought there is no hope. I was thinking there's no way they can clean that much up in a week, but after I finally calmed down I rewatched the tape and I was surprised to see how well both lines played in the first half (with exception of first def stand after turnover...I didn't pay much attention to the line there).

The OL missed a couple pickups but Grey and JG bailed them out on great moves/quick passes respectively. But if you go back and really pay attention to the line play you'll see that both lines were stronger and dominated at the LOS. The 2d half is a different story. They flat gave up on the entire defensive side. But the 1st half is encouraging outside of the turnovers.
 
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Gators right...I don't think we've found our savior. It sucks to say it, but he's generally spot on. I like JP, but the program seems to have gotten worse. You cant run for less than a hundred and a measly 3 yds a carry against GS. It's just unacceptable to be that soft as a football team.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
2) The line play/QB difference:

The line play (both sides) wasn’t as miserable as everyone wants to make it out to be. We didn’t play great on either line, but it wasn’t disastrous. The truth is, their QB was better than our QB. Their QB was quick, confident, and decisive. JG was a safe-route throwing machine. I won’t bore you all by naming specific plays, but if you go watch again you’ll see how many times he missed a wide open receiver and checked down instead. In fact, don’t watch, it will irritate you.
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I'm going to disagree in a big way. Their QB completed < 50% of his passes for 130 yards. Our DL got pushed back 3-4 yards almost every play, and I never saw them in the backfield. GA ST beat us in the trenches and with our own mistakes.
 
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I agree with the OP that JG missed seeing wide open receivers all day. He would lock in on a route or a spot on the field and he couldn't or wouldn't see anything else. It was that same fault that got him sacked twice.

I thought early on he looked OK. I feel like as the game wore on, the old JG came back - the one that holds onto the ball too long. I was really expecting a breakout game from him. That just didn't happen. I wonder if it ever will?
 
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37620VOL said:
I'm going to disagree in a big way. Their QB completed < 50% of his passes for 130 yards. Our DL got pushed back 3-4 yards almost every play, and I never saw them in the backfield. GA ST beat us in the trenches and with our own mistakes.
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Only in the 2d half. Go back and rewatch the film and pay attention to the line play in the 1st half.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
I’ll keep this short and sweet:

1) The breaks just DID NOT go our way

This is in no way meant to excuse losing to them, but this had a 2016 “App State game” feel to it.

-Their first TD we gave them a tiny field
-Twice we stopped them on third and medium/long, once Nigel was given a terrible PI call, once we were too dumb to call the timeout when we had too many men on the field. They scored on both drives
-The play where their QB rushed for a 20’ish yard TD could have been stopped, but two of our DB’s collided with each other.
-Dom beat his defender when JG threw the long completion to him, it was a walk-in from there, except Dom tripped over his own feet and fell out of bounds.

Basically whatever could have gone wrong this game, very much did. Had the breaks not gone their way ALL DAY LONG, we probably win this game somewhere in the ballpark of 30-7 or 24-13.

2) The line play/QB difference:

The line play (both sides) wasn’t as miserable as everyone wants to make it out to be. We didn’t play great on either line, but it wasn’t disastrous. The truth is, their QB was better than our QB. Their QB was quick, confident, and decisive. JG was a safe-route throwing machine. I won’t bore you all by naming specific plays, but if you go watch again you’ll see how many times he missed a wide open receiver and checked down instead. In fact, don’t watch, it will irritate you.

3. Warren Burrell got picked on:

Sorry CJP, not impressed with your golden boy. We badly missed Bryce out there today. WB was getting beat like he stole something.

4. Jennings was open all day on the crossing route:

JG didn’t see him because he was too busy looking for his safety valve.


It was a bad game, everyone. Stay positive. Aside from #1, all of these things can be corrected/improved on. The popular thing right now is to say “this was no fluke”, it was a fluke. The breaks went their way, quite one-sidedly actually. Combine that with some poor play and poor decision making, and you’re losing to any team at any level.
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So now we need breaks to a team that is projected to finish last in their conference which is sunbelt. You mean we need breaks to beat a team that won 2 games last year? Come on man. There no excuse for what happened.
 
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MyVolsDropped said:
Just continues to prove what I have been saying the past few years.

JG is garbage. Low IQ at the QB position. And terrible awareness.

Can't see open receivers.
Hell this kid can't even see the first down marker and slides down a yard short of it.
Can't see or feel pressure coming at him which is why the sacks and fumbles.

I'll stop there. There's several others but I'm tired of repeating myself everyday.

It's clear we need some fresh air at QB to see how the team plays. They just might surprise everyone. What else do we have to lose?
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He's always a yard or 2 short of a TD or 1st down. If I remember correctly he was 2 yards short of a game winning TD a couple of times in the past. Yep, he should be benched, but be prepared to take some losses before we find his replacement. I remember Bray's first appearance was a pick six. A lot of people forget we lost a lot of games where we scored 40 plus points with Bray at the helm. We had zero defense.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
So now we need breaks to a team that is projected to finish last in their conference which is sunbelt. You mean we need breaks to beat a team that won 2 games last year? Come on man. There no excuse for what happened.
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It’s not as black and white as that. We played poorly, no one is arguing that.

If you play poorly, and the breaks go the other team’s way, you lose. The talent gap doesn’t matter when that happens.
 
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I propose that we play all future games on paper. We’ve got a lot of “highly rated” players on paper. It should yield us 8 to 9 wins a year . Let me know what you think . Haha
 
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Rusty1 said:
He's always a yard or 2 short of a TD or 1st down. If I remember correctly he was 2 yards short of a game winning TD a couple of times in the past. Yep, he should be benched, but be prepared to take some losses before we find his replacement. I remember Bray's first appearance was a pick six. A lot of people forget we lost a lot of games where we scored 40 plus points with Bray at the helm. We had zero defense.
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Don't even mention the UGA game that year!
JG was a little over 50%, 300yds, 1 TD/Int. Not great numbers for sure, but our anemic ground game with less than 100 yds was far more troubling and our D that gave up 30+ to GS was most troubling. If we play like this the rest of the way, we're screwed.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
Any offensive cord worth his title knows to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers. Our playmakers are wide receivers........................but Chaney had rather throw 3 yard passes to the running backs.........go figure. Yall can praise Chaney all night and day but I think he sucks now and when we had him before !!!!! Ryan Leaf even made mention of this the other night on national tv..............said Tenn had some of the best receivers in the nation and Chaney did not even begin to utilize them.
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How do you know it was Chaney? Pretty sure there were multiple plays where guys were open, and the QB threw elsewhere. For the most part, I though Chaney called a decent game. He was trying to keep JG clean with an average OL and called short passes. There were a few questionable running plays but nothing to lose us the game.

Oh yea, and the corner blitz that JG didn't see, his WR was open at that spot. I didn't play football, but the adage is you throw where the blitz is coming. Callaway gets a chunk of yards if the ball is thrown his way.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
Any offensive cord worth his title knows to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers. Our playmakers are wide receivers........................but Chaney had rather throw 3 yard passes to the running backs.........go figure. Yall can praise Chaney all night and day but I think he sucks now and when we had him before !!!!! Ryan Leaf even made mention of this the other night on national tv..............said Tenn had some of the best receivers in the nation and Chaney did not even begin to utilize them.
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Dude the plays were called our WRs we’re open all day all over the field but Captain Checkdown JG couldn’t see them or get the ball to them.

YES our experienced veteran WRs are ABSOLUTELY the strength of our O. The mismatch isn’t Chaney it’s having a guy under center with no field awareness or vision and no vertical game. JG is a known commodity atp. Time to cut bait and move on.
 
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Knox-town
My hats off to you. You are the spin-master of all spin-masters. You need to be working for someone in a political campaign.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
I didn't count but I believe it.
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Pruitt did count them apparently. Maybe being busy counting plays is the reason why he had zero emotion on sideline?

“All the guys that played at times played really well,” he said. “I think for the first 55 plays of the game, we didn’t give up a sack or a quarterback pressure. The last 20 plays of the game, we gave up four sacks. Not all that’s on the offensive line.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
So now we need breaks to a team that is projected to finish last in their conference which is sunbelt. You mean we need breaks to beat a team that won 2 games last year? Come on man. There no excuse for what happened.
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So, what if we play better the rest of the year and they win the Sunbelt?
 
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Rusty1 said:
So, what if we play better the rest of the year and they win the Sunbelt?
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We might play better, but Georgia State will not win the Sunbelt in 2019. There's a good chance that they have 3 wins instead of 2 because of playing us.
 
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I completely agree with you, I did the same thing and went back and watched, Your right on the money, with the assessment, just hope they can turn it around.
I don't think JG, unless he makes an improvement along with the rest of the team too, he will not be our starter by the end of the year. The coaches did a bad job too, in my assessment.
 
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BeardedVol said:
We might play better, but Georgia State will not win the Sunbelt in 2019. There's a good chance that they have 3 wins instead of 2 because of playing us.
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Playing like they did against us they will.

As terrible as we were, they were also really good. Their QB executed the pitch play with perfection, he wasn’t great with throwing but threaded the needle on some clutch plays that were well defended, including a TD pass into double coverage.

As I said in my OP, they had a better QB than we did. Why that guy is playing at GA State I have not idea.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
Playing like they did against us they will.

As terrible as we were, they were also really good. Their QB executed the pitch play with perfection, he wasn’t great with throwing but threaded the needle on some clutch plays that were well defended, including a TD pass into double coverage.

As I said in my OP, they had a better QB than we did. Why that guy is playing at GA State I have not idea.
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No. Us playing them as poorly as physically possible, does not mean that they are suddenly,"really good" relative to all of college football as a whole, or even their conference competition.
 
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