Respect Dooley!

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Dooley, who has a Twitter account but hasn't said anything on it since the 2010 season opener, isn't big on all-encompassing policies. TOS-A.GIBBLE

I like big picture guys. I like how he cares about the kids enough to keep up with each of their personal characters. LIFE isn't about me, me, me. He's concerned some players are trying to feed their personal egos instead of REPRESENTING something bigger then them. IE:UTK:yahoo:

Dooley for President!
 
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Just imagine how much more respect he'll get when we become conference and national title contenders again. He's already respected because of his demeanor but once he starts winning big, the man will be pure gold. I hope.
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Heres the great thing about our situation and the SEC. If CDD brings us back to the Top of the SEC, it automatically makes us NC contenders.
 
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Vol_til_I_die said:
Just imagine how much more respect he'll get when we become conference and national title contenders again. He's already respected because of his demeanor but once he starts winning big, the man will be pure gold. I hope.
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Then someone will start a thread entitled: "Fear the Dooley." It's more than a subtle difference.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Then someone will start a thread entitled: "Fear the Dooley." It's more than a subtle difference.
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Nick Saban wears Derek Dooley pajamas. :hi:

But seriously, Dooley won me over during the press conference introducing him as our new coach. From that night on, I knew that he was intelligent, conscientious, and organized enough to succeed here. He's not like other coaches; he adds that extra dimension to what a coach should be; committed to success not only on the field, but off of it as well, not to mention committed to maintaining the well-being of his players and their families (i.e. Janzen Jackson). It will take some time for him to build what he is trying to build, but when he gets there, it will be a glorious time on Rocky Top.
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Ravenheart said:
Nick Saban wears Derek Dooley pajamas. :hi:

But seriously, Dooley won me over during the press conference introducing him as our new coach. From that night on, I knew that he was intelligent, conscientious, and organized enough to succeed here. He's not like other coaches; he adds that extra dimension to what a coach should be; committed to success not only on the field, but off of it as well, not to mention committed to maintaining the well-being of his players and their families (i.e. Janzen Jackson). It will take some time for him to build what he is trying to build, but when he gets there, it will be a glorious time on Rocky Top.
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We're patient...we're giving him till september.:)
 
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Not predicting, but I recall the Bill Curry era at the Capstone, during the 80's. I now refer to it, as the slow bleed.

At successful programs such as Bama and Tenn. you have these coaches that can recruit, have decent teaching skills and can be well organized. So they beat the teams they should beat, go to some good bowls and over all, post good records, but just never get over the championship hump. The records look like, 8-4, 9-3, even an occasional 10-2 for good measure. Before you know it, you hired John Cooper, Bill Curry, Johnny Majors. You know, good enough to hang around, just can't get over that championship hump. That stuff can go on for years, a decade, perhaps even more.

The only thing worse then a really bad coach, is one that is, almost, good enough to win it all.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Not predicting, but I recall the Bill Curry era at the Capstone, during the 80's. I now refer to it, as the slow bleed.

At successful programs such as Bama and Tenn. you have these coaches that can recruit, have decent teaching skills and can be well organized. So they beat the teams they should beat, go to some good bowls and over all, post good records, but just never get over the championship hump. The records look like, 8-4, 9-3, even an occasional 10-2 for good measure. Before you know it, you hired John Cooper, Bill Curry, Johnny Majors. You know, good enough to hang around, just can't get over that championship hump. That stuff can go on for years, a decade, perhaps even more.

The only thing worse then a really bad coach, is one that is, almost, good enough to win it all.
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Are you talking about St. Saban? He did get over the hump once, but does 6-7, 10-2, 8-3 ring a bell for anyone?
Fulmer got over the hump and won the NC and several conference and division championships. Then let the program go bust. Is Saban going down the same road? Outside of the one NC, his remaining record is much like the coaches that you mentioned. HUMMMMM?
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Not predicting, but I recall the Bill Curry era at the Capstone, during the 80's. I now refer to it, as the slow bleed.

At successful programs such as Bama and Tenn. you have these coaches that can recruit, have decent teaching skills and can be well organized. So they beat the teams they should beat, go to some good bowls and over all, post good records, but just never get over the championship hump. The records look like, 8-4, 9-3, even an occasional 10-2 for good measure. Before you know it, you hired John Cooper, Bill Curry, Johnny Majors. You know, good enough to hang around, just can't get over that championship hump. That stuff can go on for years, a decade, perhaps even more.

The only thing worse then a really bad coach, is one that is, almost, good enough to win it all.
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You can get alot of enjoyment out of a coach like that also...especially if he gets a good streak going against a rival. In our case bama and or fl would buy him alot of time.

It would also leave the next coach,after the fanbase tires of "good" seasons, a team to build on.
 
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TUSK....do you think that the Bama fans in general believe that the program under Saban is still improving, or have things peaked somewhat for this cycle? Just going on the assumption that nothing remains the same...always getting better or not.
 
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volswin08 said:
TUSK....do you think that the Bama fans in general bleieve that the program under Saban is still improving, or have things peaked somewhat for this cycle? Just going on the assumption that nothing remains the same...always getting better or not.
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Every program peaks after a NC year. Then comes entitlement issues. The degree depends on the maturity level of the team. Nine new starters alone on D, sort of told you what was coming. Florida did well, but they were senior laden. Even then, when we played them during their attempt to repeat, I thought we were the hungry team.

Recruiting and coaching, any sport, anytime, anywhere and you will compete, year after year.
 
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but to annoint Dooley who really hasn't achieved squat is just wishful thinking. Do we want the best, you bet, but frankly I am still searching to figure out what he has done to be annointed? We haven't beaten anybody of note, our recruiting is at best a C, so what am I missing?
Is it because his hair is "cute", or that he is a lawyer, or that he can articulate???? I am mystified.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
but to annoint Dooley who really hasn't achieved squat is just wishful thinking. Do we want the best, you bet, but frankly I am still searching to figure out what he has done to be annointed? We haven't beaten anybody of note, our recruiting is at best a C, so what am I missing?
Is it because his hair is "cute", or that he is a lawyer, or that he can articulate???? I am mystified.
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You bleed orange? Could've fooled just about everyone on this board.
 
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UTVOL02 said:
You bleed orange? Could've fooled just about everyone on this board.
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I have contributed over 100,000 to VASF since I graduated, have season tickets for FB and basketball, and luv my vols but will not blindly follow anyone which includes Dooley. I mean if you want real, if I had his resume I would not hire him on his accomplishments, maybe his pedigree but again I ask what the hell has he done to deserve being annoited????
 
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He made a bad team competitive in a short period of time. Also TN's recruiting is for sure better than a C grade more than half the recruits this year were four star recruits and it really is his first class seeing as he only had two weeks at the end of last season to get players that he didn't recruit in the first place but also I think he still needs to prove a lot he hasn't won anything yet I'd rather see results than potential
 
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jdmorgan38 said:
He made a bad team competitive in a short period of time. Also TN's recruiting is for sure better than a C grade more than half the recruits this year were four star recruits and it really is his first class seeing as he only had two weeks at the end of last season to get players that he didn't recruit in the first place but also I think he still needs to prove a lot he hasn't won anything yet I'd rather see results than potential
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with the exception of his recruiting ability. 6th, 7th or 8th in the sec is not going to cut it. Look bottomline I think he has done his job so far but annointing him is a little ridiculous in my opinion.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
with the exception of his recruiting ability. 6th, 7th or 8th in the sec is not going to cut it. Look bottomline I think he has done his job so far but annointing him is a little ridiculous in my opinion.
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To anoint is to pour or smear with perfumed oil, milk, water, melted butter or other substances, a process employed ritually by many religions. People and things are anointed to symbolize the introduction of a sacramental or divine influence, a holy emanation, spirit, power or god.

Don't think anyone did any of these things on Volnation through the interwebs. Respect is far off from annointing someone. I don't think hes the 2nd coming. I don't idolize the guy either, nor UT.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
but to annoint Dooley who really hasn't achieved squat is just wishful thinking. Do we want the best, you bet, but frankly I am still searching to figure out what he has done to be annointed? We haven't beaten anybody of note, our recruiting is at best a C, so what am I missing?
Is it because his hair is "cute", or that he is a lawyer, or that he can articulate???? I am mystified.
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You are a "star gazer" when it comes to recruiting. when you recruit multiple players at a positin (i.e. D-line and Defensive secondary) you can only get so many great 4 and 5 star players. Dooley is signing players for positions of need, not pulling a Lame Train and signing a buch of overrated thugs. I think he doing a great job recruiting. I think as a fan base, we can all judge his win/loss record. But to judge his recruiting is ridiculous considering none of us have ever even tried to fill that roster.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
but to annoint Dooley who really hasn't achieved squat is just wishful thinking. Do we want the best, you bet, but frankly I am still searching to figure out what he has done to be annointed? We haven't beaten anybody of note, our recruiting is at best a C, so what am I missing?
Is it because his hair is "cute", or that he is a lawyer, or that he can articulate???? I am mystified.
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I do not believe they are anointing him as the second coming of General Neyland, just saying they believe in his strength of character, which should go a long way on these days of college football. I for one absolutely believe it was time for our university to bring back character to this football team. GBO
 
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Fijivol72 said:
I have contributed over 100,000 to VASF since I graduated, have season tickets for FB and basketball, and luv my vols but will not blindly follow anyone which includes Dooley. I mean if you want real, if I had his resume I would not hire him on his accomplishments, maybe his pedigree but again I ask what the hell has he done to deserve being annoited????
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I truly hope donating money to the school is not what we are judging our support on. I mean good on you for being able to do it but, support is not represented by the depth of your wallet. Not calling you out , just saying.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Not predicting, but I recall the Bill Curry era at the Capstone, during the 80's. I now refer to it, as the slow bleed.

At successful programs such as Bama and Tenn. you have these coaches that can recruit, have decent teaching skills and can be well organized. So they beat the teams they should beat, go to some good bowls and over all, post good records, but just never get over the championship hump. The records look like, 8-4, 9-3, even an occasional 10-2 for good measure. Before you know it, you hired John Cooper, Bill Curry, Johnny Majors. You know, good enough to hang around, just can't get over that championship hump. That stuff can go on for years, a decade, perhaps even more.

The only thing worse then a really bad coach, is one that is, almost, good enough to win it all.
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8-4 or 9-3 would be a marked improvement over the last 3 seasons. Definitely not championship caliber but enough for the fan base to be excited about football again. Nobody knows if CDD can win the SEC in the next 5 years. His intangibles are awesome and he one the most intelligent coaches you will ever meet. Can he land a top 5 recruiting class? Because you will need several elite athletes to beat top teams in the SEC period. I do like the fact that he considers carefully how risky his recruits are. You could easily waste a scholarship on someone who can't make the grades or stay out of trouble. Doesn't matter how good they are if you can't play them on Saturday. So sometimes you got to take some 3 star rated players that will at least contribute to the team even if they are not all-SEC caliber. But you must have the right mixture game changing athletes and serviceable players who will be with you for 4-5 years. Lets be honest, are we going to start any player that is better than any starter at Alabama? Its tough to beat teams when the talent level is lopsided.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
I have contributed over 100,000 to VASF since I graduated, have season tickets for FB and basketball, and luv my vols but will not blindly follow anyone which includes Dooley. I mean if you want real, if I had his resume I would not hire him on his accomplishments, maybe his pedigree but again I ask what the hell has he done to deserve being annoited????
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You are probably one of the, "down in front", people at the games
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