Reports circling regarding a draft of a potential Congressional bill on college sports

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In business, collusion and price fixing is the most elegant move you can make. That's why they outlawed it.

The people with the money want congress to have a bill creating the anti-trust exemption so that the money being paid to athletes can be capped. REAL NIL can never be capped now, but the settlement includes creating a commission to approve or deny NIL deals once they have this exemption. If they determine you are paying fake NIL money, they will tell you that you are not allowed to pay that player that money. That's the plan.

People like money. The people paying (the universities here) have a better lobby than the players. Far better.
I’d guess the deal gets blown up as soon as a player or school sues because an NIL deal was ruled against.

I’ll almost guarantee you they won’t tell someone they can’t pay a player what they want for NIL. I’d guess it will be either A. Player is ruled ineligible or B. Players NIL deal money counts against that schools revenue sharing cap. Any of those scenarios I think will bring a lawsuit and the NCAA will lose again.
 
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Here's what the bill needs to establish to restore order and...well...sanity to college football...

1.) 5 years to play 4, period. No exceptions. No medical redshirts. No hardships, no, this player's dad or mom died. The minute you enroll and step on campus, your clock starts. Players get one redshirt year only. Whether its used for development or injury, that's up to the university, but no more extending this for every exception under the sun.

2.) Players are afforded a one-time no penalty transfer to any school, but only after they've completed at least 2 years at their initial school of choice. Any transfer before that, a player must sit for a year. Same for players who seek to transfer more than once. The only exception is If a player graduates early and still has a year of eligibility left, they may transfer at no penalty as well.

3.) NIL needs to be restored to its original intent. Collectives need to go away completely and players need to hire agents ON THEIR OWN to help them seek out lucrative NIL deals, and businesses need to actually provide proof of value for the player's services.

4.) Academic standards for college athletes need to be restored and actually enforced. These players need to be STUDENT athletes in more than name only. I find it highly suspicious that we never hear of any players losing their eligibility due to poor grades anymore. The Thornton Center is good but its not THAT good!

5.) Part of the payment agreement from universities to athletes needs to include post-season participation. Either bonus incentives need to be tied to post season or If a player opts to sit out of a bowl game or playoff game, he forfeits his payment or part of his payment from the university.

Agree with every one of these. Either it is "college football" or it isn't "college football".

Let them go stand up an NFL minor league and see how fast that dies on the vine.
 
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SCOTUS in the Alston decision specifically suggested that the NCAA needed Congress to give the NCAA some kind of Antitrust Exemption and legal justification for their business practices.

I'm no fan of Congress but they'll need to be involved to override state NIL legislation and such or nothing will change because each state will try to pass favorable NIL laws as TN has done.

The state must protect themselves because many of these schools are state funded and have higher expectations than just to field a college football team.
 
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Here's what the bill needs to establish to restore order and...well...sanity to college football...


3.) NIL needs to be restored to its original intent. Collectives need to go away completely and players need to hire agents ON THEIR OWN to help them seek out lucrative NIL deals, and businesses need to actually provide proof of value for the player's services.
I been saying the same thing. Collectives needs to go away, schools will be paying. Players need to get an actual registered agent that goes out and get the player endorsements from legit sources.
NIL in its current form is no more than pay to play.
 
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Another rule change that I think needs to happen is they need to eliminate early signing period. It has absolutely RUINED National Signing Day! I used to take the day off from work to follow national signing day because it was so much fun. Now, it comes and goes with nary a mention! We need to restore the fun and celebration of NSD!
 
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Fully deputize the Collegiate Sports Commission (or another entity) to enforce the settlement rules, such as requiring athletes disclose third-party name, image and likeness deals worth more than $600 and allow the prohibition of compensation that is not considered fair market value

That's fine if professional athletes are held to that same standard.
 
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I been saying the same thing. Collectives needs to go away, schools will be paying. Players need to get an actual registered agent that goes out and get the player endorsements from legit sources.
NIL in its current form is no more than pay to play.
Yeah, I think getting the collectives out is step #1 to reforming this whole thing. I get it’s always been shady as hell, but these collectives are just outright dark money groups, and are taking advantage of many of these kids. Certainly nothing new, but NIL was, in theory, supposed to be a legitimate way for these kids to get paid-not so in reality.

Not much else can be done to reform the system until they’re tackled, I think.
 
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Yeah, I think getting the collectives out is step #1 to reforming this whole thing. I get it’s always been shady as hell, but these collectives are just outright dark money groups, and are taking advantage of many of these kids. Certainly nothing new, but NIL was, in theory, supposed to be a legitimate way for these kids to get paid-not so in reality.

Not much else can be done to reform the system until they’re tackled, I think.
How is it not legit?
 
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That's a canard. The free market saves itself if people don't interfere with it.
True. The free market fixed NASCAR and that's absolutely what they're afraid of. Terrified. They think they can outsmart the free market, but to be fair, they probably have to. Necessity is the mother of invention and so this is what got invented.
 
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If you’re following the House settlement, it actually ticks a lot of boxes discussed here.

I’m hopeful that the Collegiate Sports Commission the conferences set up will be effectively executed.

Let’s go ahead and define athletes as employees. After that they probably unionize by school or by conference, then collectively bargain reasonable restrictions on their freedom to contract like 1-time transfer, 4-years-in-5, etc.

If Congress would actually butt out and let the parties work stuff out on their own, it could actually evolve into a pretty workable system.

Does anyone here actually trust Tommy Tuberville and his ilk to come up with better results for UT than Dondie and Greg Sankey?
 
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Yeah, I think getting the collectives out is step #1 to reforming this whole thing. I get it’s always been shady as hell, but these collectives are just outright dark money groups, and are taking advantage of many of these kids. Certainly nothing new, but NIL was, in theory, supposed to be a legitimate way for these kids to get paid-not so in reality.

Not much else can be done to reform the system until they’re tackled, I think.
Preach, but I think they’re too well financed and connected to be completely passed over.

They’ll adapt, or at least their owners/c-suite will.
 
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That's a canard. The free market saves itself if people don't interfere with it.
Hell, from what I understand there’s a free market for Congre$$ional clout.

Free market capitalism is great, just not at the expense of everything else.
 
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True. The free market fixed NASCAR and that's absolutely what they're afraid of. Terrified. They think they can outsmart the free market, but to be fair, they probably have to. Necessity is the mother of invention and so this is what got invented.
If the invention is calling player wages and service fees “NIL” then I concur.

Great NASCAR example.
 
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Folks have said all along that it would take an antitrust exemption for a lot of these ideas to work. It’s still hard for me to understand how the players aren’t “employees” when the school is paying them directly but I guess there many ways to define things.

I also find it hard to believe that Congress would waste their time with something like this when they have much more important business to argue about. But since they are as big a bunch of screwups as the NCAA, I guess it follows that they’d try. It can’t be any worse than the situation we have now so maybe it’s worth a try.
Totally reject the idea that they can’t make it worse!
 
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Any congressional rules or laws are going to limit the freedom of players.

I like the idea of limiting transfers until two years at the players first school, but then I see you are telling workers where they can and cannot work. Then we need binding contracts. That makes players employees. That is going to create a lot of moneyed pressure to consideration of the end of grade requirements

The NFL can make binding rules because the owners interests are protected by the NFL. Who owns the CFB teams? That is going to be a situation in flux very soon.
I expect some hedge fund or venture capitalist group to buy some MAC teams, controlling interest, and try to build rosters like Nick Saban's Bama teams. They'll but a lower tier team because the buy-in will be more limited and it will need proof it can work.

"Better to be a dog in times of tranquility than a human in times of chaos" -- Chinese proverb
 
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As a decidedly non-fan of NASCAR, Im curious as to how the free market "fixed" it?
People freely quit watching it.

Eyeballs are the product here, and under the old system, the value of the eyeballs was shockingly high. There are people with plans to keep the value shockingly high. These plans may or may not get implemented (because they're currently illegal) and if implemented, they may not work. You have to try if you have a multi-billion-dollar industry. You have to try to hang onto that.
 
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People freely quit watching it.

Eyeballs are the product here, and under the old system, the value of the eyeballs was shockingly high. There are people with plans to keep the value shockingly high. These plans may or may not get implemented (because they're currently illegal) and if implemented, they may not work. You have to try if you have a multi-billion-dollar industry. You have to try to hang onto that.
I guess I didn't ask the right questions. A.) What was wrong with NASCAR before and B) Why is it better now?
 
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Totally reject the idea that they can’t make it worse!
Generally I’d agree with that when it comes to those fools in Congress but I can’t see how it can be any worse than what the NCAA has done over the years. They can’t find their rear end with either hand.
 
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Generally I’d agree with that when it comes to those fools in Congress but I can’t see how it can be any worse than what the NCAA has done over the years. They can’t find their rear end with either hand.

It is the courts messing with their rear end. Congress could court proof something if done right.
 

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