Rep Massie posts gun photo

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2/3 and you get what you want. Until then tough ****.
It will be easier to just keep introducing rational and reasonable laws and letting the courts decide.
They have obviously already ruled that there can legally be rational and reasonable restrictions on guns without infringing on 2a.
 
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These mass shootings are overhyped. Relax, it's never going to happen to you or anyone you care about. The odds are really good in your favor.
This is true, the odds are good you or anyone you know will not experience one. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent them.
 
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This is true, the odds are good you or anyone you know will experience one. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent them.
True, the odds are only 6,247 times greater that you or someone you know will be adversely effected by gun violence than the odds that you will need an arsenal to defend yourself against a tyrannical government.
 
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True, the odds are only 6,247 times greater that you or someone you know will be adversely effected by gun violence than the odds that you will need an arsenal to defend yourself against a tyrannical government.
Think the people of Australia wish they had more or fewer guns at this moment?

It's not about actively defending ourselves it's the fact they understand it's a possibility. All bets are off once that is no longer in play
 
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It is perfectly within their rights to post this Christmas cards. IMO, it's bad timing and bad optics. I think people voting against Massie strictly based upon this photo is a valid response.
 
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Think the people of Australia wish they had more or fewer guns at this moment?

It's not about actively defending ourselves it's the fact they understand it's a possibility. All bets are off once that is no longer in play
I'm guessing the thousands of people whose lives have been saved by the stricter laws are pretty happy.
Annual gun deaths in Australia
2019: 229
2018: 209
2017: 196
2016: 232
2015: 211
2014: 230
2013: 211
2012: 226
2011: 188
2010: 232
2009: 226
2008: 235
2007: 237
2006: 245
2005: 221
2004: 243
2003: 289
2002: 292
2001: 326
2000: 324
1999: 347
1998: 312
1997: 428
1996: 516 New National Firearms Agreement
1995: 470
1994: 516
1993: 513
1992: 608
1991: 618
1990: 595
1989: 549
1988: 674
1987: 694
1986: 677
1985: 682
 
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I'm guessing the thousands of people whose lives have been saved by the stricter laws are pretty happy.
Annual gun deaths in Australia
2019: 229
2018: 209
2017: 196
2016: 232
2015: 211
2014: 230
2013: 211
2012: 226
2011: 188
2010: 232
2009: 226
2008: 235
2007: 237
2006: 245
2005: 221
2004: 243
2003: 289
2002: 292
2001: 326
2000: 324
1999: 347
1998: 312
1997: 428
1996: 516 New National Firearms Agreement
1995: 470
1994: 516
1993: 513
1992: 608
1991: 618
1990: 595
1989: 549
1988: 674
1987: 694
1986: 677
1985: 682
Wonder what the people being put in camps think? But I guess they're still alive and not a statistic yet
 
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It is perfectly within their rights to post this Christmas cards. IMO, it's bad timing and bad optics. I think people voting against Massie strictly based upon this photo is a valid response.
I don't know much about the guy but would the people set to vote for/against him really have their needle moved by this thing?
 
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Wonder what the people being put in camps think? But I guess they're still alive and not a statistic yet
Happy that their government is trying to protect the country?
Australia’s quarantine facilities are for travelers, not for isolating unvaccinated people
 
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This is true, the odds are good you or anyone you know will not experience one. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent them.
Of course I was being sarcastic but try as we may as long as hundreds of millions of guns are out there mentally or emotionally deranged people will be able to get their hands on them. I don't see where there is much we can really do about it without stepping on someones rights. These shootings are going to continue for the foreseeable future.
 
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I'm guessing the thousands of people whose lives have been saved by the stricter laws are pretty happy.
Annual gun deaths in Australia
2019: 229
2018: 209
2017: 196
2016: 232
2015: 211
2014: 230
2013: 211
2012: 226
2011: 188
2010: 232
2009: 226
2008: 235
2007: 237
2006: 245
2005: 221
2004: 243
2003: 289
2002: 292
2001: 326
2000: 324
1999: 347
1998: 312
1997: 428
1996: 516 New National Firearms Agreement
1995: 470
1994: 516
1993: 513
1992: 608
1991: 618
1990: 595
1989: 549
1988: 674
1987: 694
1986: 677
1985: 682
So it only took 25 years after being disarmed for the government to put them in camps.
 
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Happy that their government is trying to protect the country?
Australia’s quarantine facilities are for travelers, not for isolating unvaccinated people
Watch what their police are doing to enforce ridiculous lockdowns and mandates. That's not protection, it's tyranny. It's sad some want nothing to do with being free
 
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I'm guessing the thousands of people whose lives have been saved by the stricter laws are pretty happy.
Annual gun deaths in Australia
2019: 229
2018: 209
2017: 196
2016: 232
2015: 211
2014: 230
2013: 211
2012: 226
2011: 188
2010: 232
2009: 226
2008: 235
2007: 237
2006: 245
2005: 221
2004: 243
2003: 289
2002: 292
2001: 326
2000: 324
1999: 347
1998: 312
1997: 428
1996: 516 New National Firearms Agreement
1995: 470
1994: 516
1993: 513
1992: 608
1991: 618
1990: 595
1989: 549
1988: 674
1987: 694
1986: 677
1985: 682
The Australian government disagrees with your numbers.

4102.0 - Australian Social Trends, 1997
 

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I don't know much about the guy but would the people set to vote for/against him really have their needle moved by this thing?
No.
It only increases the divide - which was the intent.
The Bannon/Stone/Trump strategy was to make the divide as great as possible by increasing the level of distrust and dislike between the two sides.
In their mind - tear the country apart so it can be rebuilt in our image.
 

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