Remembering Karl Marx’s Selfish, Disgusting Decision to Abandon His Child

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For millions of people around the world, Karl Marx and his close associate Friedrich Engels are the face of love and compassion—the alleged champions of the working class who tirelessly toiled away throughout their lives to support the “little guy.” But perception is not always reality, especially when dealing with socialist “heroes.”

Not only was Marx a lazy, selfish person, he showed a great lack of compassion in his own personal life. This reality is best epitomized by the sad case of Marx’s forgotten secret son, Fredrick Demuth.

While working in England in 1851, Marx had an affair with Helene Demuth while Marx’s wife was living apart from him. Demuth was a working-class maid who had been hired by the mother of Marx’s wife, Jenny. (Marx could never have afforded to hire his own maid, since he rarely worked and generally depended on the money provided to him by others, especially Engels.)

As sad as the affair was, especially given the economic hardships Jenny Marx had to endure throughout her life, the story gets much worse. Demuth and Marx conceived a child together, and rather than acknowledge his mistake, Marx is believed to have gone to great lengths to cover it up.

As Ralph Buultjens noted in an article for The New York Times, “Fearing that this indiscretion would destroy his marriage and damage his public image, he organized an effective cover-up … Engels pretended he was the father and Miss Demuth confirmed the deception. The infant, Fredrick Demuth, was given away to be brought up by a working-class family in London.”

For more than 40 years, no one knew about the deception, including Marx’s son, Fredrick. It was only after Engels admitted to the sad story on his deathbed in 1895 that the affair was revealed.


Broken-hearted about the news, one of Marx’s daughters, Eleanor, committed suicide three years after learning of Fredrick. (Marx’s second daughter also committed suicide, in 1911.)

Fredrick Demuth grew up poor, received no financial support from Marx, and was never allowed to see his father. Engels did allow Frederick to occasionally visit his mother, who later became Engels’ housekeeper, but he was banned from entering Engels’ home through the front door. Instead, he entered through the home’s servants’ quarters and kitchen.

When Fredrick died in 1929, he was poor and reportedly unaware that his father was Marx, not Engels.

Why, exactly, Marx chose not to accept his son has been debated by academics, but historian Paul Johnson argued in his 1998 book Intellectuals (h/t to Richard Ebeling) that the reason Marx abandoned his child is because he “was terrified that Freddy’s paternity would be discovered and that this would do him fatal damage as a revolutionary leader and seer.”

Of course, just because Marx was a truly despicable person does not mean his ideology was despicable. Many terrible people have done wonderful things. Why, then, write an article pointing to the poor treatment of Freddy Demuth? There are at least two reasons.

First, the irony is overwhelming. Here, we have Marx, the so-called savior of the “working man,” having an affair with a working-class woman, impregnating her, and then refusing to take responsibility for his actions. Hardly sounds like the champion of the working class to me.

Second, and more importantly, it puts on full display the ends-justify-the-means mentality that has been deeply engrained in socialism and communism for more than a century.

The allegedly “compassionate” Marx abandoned his own child, not because he could not find employment and financially support him, but because he didn’t want his precious revolution to suffer.

Remembering Karl Marx’s Selfish, Disgusting Decision to Abandon His Child
 
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For millions of people around the world, Karl Marx and his close associate Friedrich Engels are the face of love and compassion—the alleged champions of the working class who tirelessly toiled away throughout their lives to support the “little guy.” But perception is not always reality, especially when dealing with socialist “heroes.”

Not only was Marx a lazy, selfish person, he showed a great lack of compassion in his own personal life. This reality is best epitomized by the sad case of Marx’s forgotten secret son, Fredrick Demuth.

While working in England in 1851, Marx had an affair with Helene Demuth while Marx’s wife was living apart from him. Demuth was a working-class maid who had been hired by the mother of Marx’s wife, Jenny. (Marx could never have afforded to hire his own maid, since he rarely worked and generally depended on the money provided to him by others, especially Engels.)

As sad as the affair was, especially given the economic hardships Jenny Marx had to endure throughout her life, the story gets much worse. Demuth and Marx conceived a child together, and rather than acknowledge his mistake, Marx is believed to have gone to great lengths to cover it up.

As Ralph Buultjens noted in an article for The New York Times, “Fearing that this indiscretion would destroy his marriage and damage his public image, he organized an effective cover-up … Engels pretended he was the father and Miss Demuth confirmed the deception. The infant, Fredrick Demuth, was given away to be brought up by a working-class family in London.”

For more than 40 years, no one knew about the deception, including Marx’s son, Fredrick. It was only after Engels admitted to the sad story on his deathbed in 1895 that the affair was revealed.


Broken-hearted about the news, one of Marx’s daughters, Eleanor, committed suicide three years after learning of Fredrick. (Marx’s second daughter also committed suicide, in 1911.)

Fredrick Demuth grew up poor, received no financial support from Marx, and was never allowed to see his father. Engels did allow Frederick to occasionally visit his mother, who later became Engels’ housekeeper, but he was banned from entering Engels’ home through the front door. Instead, he entered through the home’s servants’ quarters and kitchen.

When Fredrick died in 1929, he was poor and reportedly unaware that his father was Marx, not Engels.

Why, exactly, Marx chose not to accept his son has been debated by academics, but historian Paul Johnson argued in his 1998 book Intellectuals (h/t to Richard Ebeling) that the reason Marx abandoned his child is because he “was terrified that Freddy’s paternity would be discovered and that this would do him fatal damage as a revolutionary leader and seer.”

Of course, just because Marx was a truly despicable person does not mean his ideology was despicable. Many terrible people have done wonderful things. Why, then, write an article pointing to the poor treatment of Freddy Demuth? There are at least two reasons.

First, the irony is overwhelming. Here, we have Marx, the so-called savior of the “working man,” having an affair with a working-class woman, impregnating her, and then refusing to take responsibility for his actions. Hardly sounds like the champion of the working class to me.

Second, and more importantly, it puts on full display the ends-justify-the-means mentality that has been deeply engrained in socialism and communism for more than a century.

The allegedly “compassionate” Marx abandoned his own child, not because he could not find employment and financially support him, but because he didn’t want his precious revolution to suffer.

Remembering Karl Marx’s Selfish, Disgusting Decision to Abandon His Child
Says a lot that the father of communism lied and hurt others and that even his daughters killed themselves out of misery
 
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You know the article is legit when it tells you how to feel about it in the title.

Marx is such an easy intellectual mark, it's silly you have to resort to ad hominem attacks of this quality.

Would it surprise anyone to find out Trump has an abandoned love child and would it change how you feel about him?
 
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You know the article is legit when it tells you how to feel about it in the title.

Marx is such an easy intellectual mark, it's silly you have to resort to ad hominem attacks of this quality.

Would it surprise anyone to find out Trump has an abandoned love child and would it change how you feel about him?

There it is. We can't have a discussion about anything w/out somebody bringing up .... but but .... Trump.
It's always about Trump somehow & someway or in some fashion...
 
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You know the article is legit when it tells you how to feel about it in the title.

Marx is such an easy intellectual mark, it's silly you have to resort to ad hominem attacks of this quality.

Would it surprise anyone to find out Trump has an abandoned love child and would it change how you feel about him?
I don't care about Trump either, but at least his ideology didn't kill millions of people over a century or so
 
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You know the article is legit when it tells you how to feel about it in the title.

Marx is such an easy intellectual mark, it's silly you have to resort to ad hominem attacks of this quality.

Would it surprise anyone to find out Trump has an abandoned love child and would it change how you feel about him?

I bet you have Communist blood circulating through your body.
 
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You know the article is legit when it tells you how to feel about it in the title.

Marx is such an easy intellectual mark, it's silly you have to resort to ad hominem attacks of this quality.

Would it surprise anyone to find out Trump has an abandoned love child and would it change how you feel about him?

Yes, but it wouldn't surprise us if Bernie did given that he broke bread with the Soviets wearing stained little kids underwear.
 
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POTUS coming up in the politics forum? Find a safe space
I do think it's a little unfair to continuesly use the Trump cudgel. For most of us Trump was never our first choice. He is only in power out of a reaction to the increasingly Marxist positions of main stream Democrats
 
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Marx is garbage and his ideology leads to tragedy but shouldn't we wait a century to say that, LOL?
I'm saying the same thing twice. But that very ideology is becoming more and more prevelent in this current generation of Democrats. Trump unfortunately is our only viable alternative. By viable I mean electable, he's almost as good as Obama at whipping up the mob
 
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You know the article is legit when it tells you how to feel about it in the title.

Marx is such an easy intellectual mark, it's silly you have to resort to ad hominem attacks of this quality.

Would it surprise anyone to find out Trump has an abandoned love child and would it change how you feel about him?

Marx is an idiot, communism/socialism has never worked. It will never work. Go ahead and list the communist/socialist nations that have had more sustained wealth over a longer period of time than the US. I will hang up and listen.
 
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I'm saying the same thing twice. But that very ideology is becoming more and more prevelent in this current generation of Democrats. Trump unfortunately is our only viable alternative. By viable I mean electable, he's almost as good as Obama at whipping up the mob

Is it tho? It seems like it ebbs and flows over the decades, but never grows into anything substantial. I think we focus a lot on the loud fringe and it makes it seem like they are a more significant group than they actually are. If you know any liberals, think about how many of them are actually left of AOC? I think I might know 3, but I'm not even sure about that.
 

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