Releasing our Derek Dooley hatred

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So now that we are again approaching dominance, I am looking to the future with orange colored glasses on, drinking orange Kool-Aid, etc. It is great to be a Tennessee Vol once again.

All of this being said, I was reading a post by another poster that had a picture of Dooley in it and I realized just looking at the man's face made me angry. As part of my effort to let the Dooley era go, and spit out all of the vitriol that I don't need to carry inside anymore, I wanted to create this thread as a golden opportunity for those like me that just need one last chance to take a parting shot at the arrogant SOB before our minds can be 100% occupied with our new era of SEC and national championships that is about to begin under Butch.

This is an chance to post your least favorite thing about the guy, the thing he did that made you the most angry, your least favorite moment from the Dooley era, etc. Positive comments are also welcome as I would be very interested to know if any good sentiments still remain about the guy.

Fire at will Volnation.

Here is mine:
There is a long list of things I didn't appreciate about the guy, but the number one thing for me is the fact that he couldn't secure a single offensive lineman recruit in his last two years. Not even a two star. That was just criminal. Any interim coach hired from any Tennessee high school who gave a crap about his job could have secured a two star offensive lineman given a period of two years at the University of Tennessee. It was just pure negligence and gravy train riding on Dooley's part.
 
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The word Dooley is synonymous with a very dark time in my fandom so no, won't ever go away.

For me at least.
 
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i understand what you're doing, and where it's coming from...but the less i think about the Dooley era, and the more i look forward to the next 3-5 years, the better..........
 
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i understand what you're doing, and where it's coming from...but the less i think about the Dooley era, and the more i look forward to the next 3-5 years, the better..........

I'm right there with ya man. I just had a moment when I saw those beady eyes staring back at me from my computer screen today...lol.
 
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Mike Hamilton deserves even more blame because he hired the sorry sack of chit. If I had to pick one it was the way he handled former players and making it difficult for them to come around UT. Honorable mention to not be able to field 11 players on multiple occasions.
 
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Mike Hamilton deserves even more blame because he hired the sorry sack of chit. If I had to pick one it was the way he handled former players and making it difficult for them to come around UT.

Mike Hamilton could not have done more to destroy the entire Athletic Dept at the University of Tennessee if you had hired him and made that his top priority. Hiring losers like Kiffin and Dooley to replace 30+ years of Tennessee grads representing the football program with class. The hiring of Todd Raleigh, the way he handled the entire track program, the way he handled the dismissal of Bruce Pearl, just the clueless way he handled the entire athletic program. Good riddance to Hamilton and anyone he hired.

It's taken this many years just to get the stench of Dooley and Hamilton off the football program. Looking forward to enjoying the next few years but to be honest, I keep expecting something to go wrong to ruin it all again.
 
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Mike Hamilton could not have done more to destroy the entire Athletic Dept at the University of Tennessee if you had hired him and made that his top priority. Hiring losers like Kiffin and Dooley to replace 30+ years of Tennessee grads representing the football program with class. The hiring of Todd Raleigh, the way he handled the entire track program, the way he handled the dismissal of Bruce Pearl, just the clueless way he handled the entire athletic program. Good riddance to Hamilton and anyone he hired.

It's taken this many years just to get the stench of Dooley and Hamilton off the football program. Looking forward to enjoying the next few years but to be honest, I keep expecting something to go wrong to ruin it all again.
Once bitten, twice shy... but to be honest I don't share the fear that it is all going to go wrong again. The men in charge of our Vols now are many times more competent than the Dooley/ Hamilton regime.
 
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i understand what you're doing, and where it's coming from...but the less i think about the Dooley era, and the more i look forward to the next 3-5 years, the better..........

I'm with you.

"Don't look back. Something could be gaining on you."-Satchel Paige
 
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2011 was the only year Dooley didn't sign any O-linemen. Stop trying to make it sound worse than it was. Dooley was brought in to clean house and be more of a parent than coach while we were still under NCAA probation. The top talent wants and needs to be recruited using sometimes questionable tactics. Dooley and UT couldn't do that at the time. We can and probably are doing it now so we can bring in top talent.
 
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If we could all agree to not bring his name into any discussion, it would be great.

No threads, no posts, no goofy GIFs or memes. No Rommel, no orange dog, no opportunity is nowhere. No new fair catch rule, no shower etiquette, no 12 men on the field, no crutches. No orange pants, no Sunseri D, no office wall colors. I'm sure the list could go on and on....
 
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I'll tell you what I hated. It's what he DIDN'T do.

Not making half time adjustments. What the hell did he do during half time anyway?

Not making the appropriate effort as a recruiter. He is why it's taken Butch so long getc us back.

Not coaching up the defense, we looked so lost.

I'm over it though. Butch is the man and I'm grateful for his loyalty and vision. These young men on the team now are going to change the national perspective of UT
 
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2011 was the only year Dooley didn't sign any O-linemen. Stop trying to make it sound worse than it was. Dooley was brought in to clean house and be more of a parent than coach while we were still under NCAA probation. The top talent wants and needs to be recruited using sometimes questionable tactics. Dooley and UT couldn't do that at the time. We can and probably are doing it now so we can bring in top talent.

Is this Barbara Dooley or precious? Dooley signed some good players but he could not coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He also made the worst hire possible in 2012 (Sunseri). If he hires even a decent d coordinator we win at least 9 games that year.
 
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2011 was the only year Dooley didn't sign any O-linemen. Stop trying to make it sound worse than it was. Dooley was brought in to clean house and be more of a parent than coach while we were still under NCAA probation. The top talent wants and needs to be recruited using sometimes questionable tactics. Dooley and UT couldn't do that at the time. We can and probably are doing it now so we can bring in top talent.

You're sugar coating it more than a little. Perhaps you didn't read the article about how abysmal he was with recruiting. Offending high school coaches with his arrogance and at times refusal to even return phone calls. That has nothing to do with toeing the line. That is just thinking you are smarter than everyone else. I've moved on from him, but to say he was doing the best he could without getting in trouble is asinine.
 
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So now that we are again approaching dominance, I am looking to the future with orange colored glasses on, drinking orange Kool-Aid, etc. It is great to be a Tennessee Vol once again.

All of this being said, I was reading a post by another poster that had a picture of Dooley in it and I realized just looking at the man's face made me angry. As part of my effort to let the Dooley era go, and spit out all of the vitriol that I don't need to carry inside anymore, I wanted to create this thread as a golden opportunity for those like me that just need one last chance to take a parting shot at the arrogant SOB before our minds can be 100% occupied with our new era of SEC and national championships that is about to begin under Butch.

This is an chance to post your least favorite thing about the guy, the thing he did that made you the most angry, your least favorite moment from the Dooley era, etc. Positive comments are also welcome as I would be very interested to know if any good sentiments still remain about the guy.

Fire at will Volnation.

Here is mine:
There is a long list of things I didn't appreciate about the guy, but the number one thing for me is the fact that he couldn't secure a single offensive lineman recruit in his last two years. Not even a two star. That was just criminal. Any interim coach hired from any Tennessee high school who gave a crap about his job could have secured a two star offensive lineman given a period of two years at the University of Tennessee. It was just pure negligence and gravy train riding on Dooley's part.

Relax. Dooley was not ready to Coach at SEC level but that's not his fault. He saw an opening applied and got the job. He did not hold Tennessee AD hostage to get the job.
We know from facts that he wasn't SEC level but there is no evidence to suggest he didn't try or slacked on job.
He built a good offensive line (4-5 starters in NFL right now). Patterson, Hunter and Rogers were all his WRs. His QB and his offense in 2012 were one of the most prolific passing offenses in Tennessee history.
I am not supporting Dooley and I think we were wrong to hire him in first place and then keeping him after KY loss was bad too. But he did build a great offense in 2012 and great hype surrounding program too.
Bottom line is if TN came to me today and offered HC job, I would take it too. No one thinks they are incapable. So Dooley saw the coaching job, applied for it and got it. He tried, didn't succeed and was fired. why so much hate ? Those who keep citing that he didnot sign a O-lineman in 2011 also fail to cite that he left behind 4 NFL starters for O-line for 2013. He did some good, he did some bad. Move on.
 
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Is this Barbara Dooley or precious? Dooley signed some good players but he could not coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He also made the worst hire possible in 2012 (Sunseri). If he hires even a decent d coordinator we win at least 9 games that year.

Yep. Literally any P5 4-3 defensive coordinator with more than 2 years of experience would have gift wrapped Dooley a 9 win season.
 
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Is this Barbara Dooley or precious? Dooley signed some good players but he could not coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He also made the worst hire possible in 2012 (Sunseri). If he hires even a decent d coordinator we win at least 9 games that year.

By the end of 2011, after the UK loss, do you really think Dooley had a say in who was hired as D coordinator?
 
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We know from facts that he wasn't SEC level but there is no evidence to suggest he didn't try or slacked on job.

There's actually a decent amount of evidence to the contrary. He neglected recruiting to a criminal level, especially in the state of TN.

He built a good offensive line (4-5 starters in NFL right now). Patterson, Hunter and Rogers were all his WRs. His QB and his offense in 2012 were one of the most prolific passing offenses in Tennessee history.

True, but he also failed to develop Tyler Bray into the top-tier SEC QB that he should have been. That vaunted UT offense also couldn't move the ball against UF, Bama, or even Vandy.

I am not supporting Dooley and I think we were wrong to hire him in first place and then keeping him after KY loss was bad too. But he did build a great offense in 2012 and great hype surrounding program too.

All the goodwill he earned from building a great offense was flushed down the toilet when he hired a completely unqualified and inexperienced guy who was going to fundamentally change the defensive scheme in a pivotal, make it or break it year.

Those who keep citing that he didnot sign a O-lineman in 2011 also fail to cite that he left behind 4 NFL starters for O-line for 2013. He did some good, he did some bad. Move on.

Yes, and every single one of those OL left after the 2013 season. That's why coaches map out the depth chart years in advance in order to prevent huge holes in the roster from forming. Let's not forget that we also lost all experienced DL before the 2014 season as well due to poor recruiting and foresight.
 
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2011 was the only year Dooley didn't sign any O-linemen. Stop trying to make it sound worse than it was. Dooley was brought in to clean house and be more of a parent than coach while we were still under NCAA probation. The top talent wants and needs to be recruited using sometimes questionable tactics. Dooley and UT couldn't do that at the time. We can and probably are doing it now so we can bring in top talent.

Dooley wasn't here on signing day for the class of 2012 in case you didn't notice. None of the OL recruits we signed in that class were successfully recruited by Dooley's staff. They were all recruited by Coach Mahoney. Stop making it sound better than it was. He had no OL onboard at the time of his firing.
 
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