Regarding contacting prospects via social networking sites

Status
Not open for further replies.
#1
Sabanocchio

Sabanocchio

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 11, 2007
Messages
17,286
Likes
1
#1
I found this pinned over on CockyTalk, but thought it was something that needed to be posted here. Just replace all the USC references with UT.
NCAA rules and regulations are complex to say the least, but one completely straightforward area is fan communication with recruits. If any fans, boosters, alumni (or any other supporters) of USC athletics have any contact (e.g., in-person, instant message, text message, My Space, Facebook, e-mail, at a USC contest, etc.) whatsoever with a recruit there could be serious consequences, including the prospect possibly becoming ineligible at USC. Further, it is impermissible for the University of South Carolina to publicize the visit of a prospective student-athlete, this includes but is not limited to, signs encouraging the prospect to attend USC and chanting the name of the recruit.

The best thing a fan can do is continue to support the Gamecocks by attending games and making the USC atmosphere an exciting place to be. Also, fans may notify coaches of prospects that may help the program provided they are not instructed to do so by a USC coach.
Click to expand...
 
#2
#2
Which is absolutly retarded. The NCAA cannot make rules/govern what a FAN can and cannot do. The whole John Wall/NC State facebook thing for example...it's absolute garbage.
 
#3
#3
so I should create a profile saying I'm a USCjv fan and contact all their recruits?

This will end badly
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#4
#4
I see what they are trying to accomplish, but it is impossible to regulate.

Like PJ said, there will be imposters and then how do you control that...

Impossible situation.
 
#5
#5
So if I happen to run into Corey Miller at a UT ball game of some sort that would be illegal? Big brother throwing his weight around...
 
#6
#6
UTHorsey said:
Which is absolutly retarded. The NCAA cannot make rules/govern what a FAN can and cannot do. The whole John Wall/NC State facebook thing for example...it's absolute garbage.
Click to expand...

They've been doing that exact thing since their existence. Why would that be any different now vs. 20 years ago? Same animal just a different delivery.

The real question is what reason would anyone have for contacting a prospect?
 
#8
#8
I'm going to create an Official UF Athletics Headquarters profile... and contact every single one of their commitments or possible commitments, post as much Come to UF garbage as I can, throw a few pictures of scantily clad women in there, and then in a final act of destruction post this

Come to UF and we'll give you $$$
 
#9
#9
Sabanocchio said:
They've been doing that exact thing since their existence. Why would that be any different now vs. 20 years ago? Same animal just a different delivery.

The real question is what reason would anyone have for contacting a prospect?
Click to expand...

I agree with Sab. I can't understand why people on this board break their neck to get on recruits my space, facebook and twitter pages thinking they are going to persuade them to come to Tennessee. Some people are acting like recruiters or coaches on here and don't even get paid and they need to stop before they get their beloved university in trouble.

I don't know maybe it's me but I have never been a autograph seeker or brown noser with players or recruits or pro athletes as well. Living in Miami you will usually run into players, movie stars, music stars, rappers, etc.. on South Beach and you will see people breaking their neck and making a fool out of themselves to get a autograph or be seen with them!
 
#10
#10
Sabanocchio said:
They've been doing that exact thing since their existence. Why would that be any different now vs. 20 years ago? Same animal just a different delivery.

The real question is what reason would anyone have for contacting a prospect?
Click to expand...

Because people seek credability from it. The reason they become freinds with them on facebook or whatever, and why they say they call them and talk with them. i am sure some on all boards have legit relationships with these players but many more are just way over obsessed and feel that it is appropriate to be a part of their lives.

It is already hard enough for the coaches to do their job when it comes to recruiting these high profile athletes, but they get paid for it unlike many fans who believe their desire to know all is in the best interest of the program. Just like with the hostess situation currently. It does not matter if UT had anything to do with it and at this point there is no real evidence that they did, but because some fan of the program as it appears tried to get involved in the recruitment process it might cost UT some top prospects.

In the end the coaches are paid to contact the recruits and the fans are there to enjoy their work.
 
#11
#11
Impossible to regulate. May also be consider restrictive of an individuals rights to free speech. NCAA rules are archaic and need to be revised. The SEC and ESPN caved on this same issue because of the fans uproar in regards to personal media.
 
#12
#12
I always thought it was kind of creepy for grown men to be "friends" with teenagers on FB. Doesn't matter what team they represent.
 
#13
#13
I agree with the NCAA trying to enforce it. They need an overhaul more then the current tax code.

But as Sab asked why do people feel the need to do it anyway.
 
#14
#14
They can make all the rules in the world but this cannot be enforced nor can it even be investigated properly. No way the NCAA can tell whether someone is actually a fan of a team trying to recruit a prospect and who are impostors trying to get someone a violation. I would imagine Facebook and MySpace would tell the NCAA where to stick their investigation if they came looking for information from them.
 
#17
#17
The easiest way to connect people is graduates of the university. Fans I think are hard to prove. If you are a graduate of a university and contact a recruit then I think it could be a little more involved.
 
#19
#19
Maybe it's just me but for the most part these recruiting rules need to be throw out. I think alot of this has to do with the ADs of the schools jealous one school is going to get a player their school is not. I agree there should be some rules like not paying players etc. If you want to send the whole university to send a player then go for it. I know they are created to be fair to the smaller schools. Honestly the biggers players are going to the bigger schools anyway. If Tenn wants to send their hostesses down there to see players then so be it. If the coaches want to tell them go to go see them then so be it. Who cares as long as the coaches aren't paying the bill? If coaches want to talk about players then so be it. This stuff is so petty. Just open up and quit being so anal about everything. The NCAA spends more time slapping hands than anything. The secondary violations defintely need to go. Who cares about these anyway. Unless you are paying a recruit to come to your campus or something similar, I think the NCAA should just let it go. There may be more reasons I am not thinking of, if so enlighten me, it just seems stupid overall.
 
#20
#20
Check this site out. Dumb Laws in Alabama. Crazy Alabama Laws. We have weird laws, strange laws, and just plain crazy laws!

One of the laws you will see on this site in Alabama states the following: "Boogers may not be flicked into the wind."

My point is that it my be a "recruiting rule" by the NCAA but I will guarantee you anything that they will not enforce it. They will not punish a school if some fan talks to a recruit on a social network site. They can't prove who the fan truly represents like pj said. I could pretend to be a Florida or Alabama fan anytime and would if I knew I could get them in trouble.
 
#21
#21
I understand the whole facebook issue, but chanting a recruit's name during a game is breaking the rules? Seriously? As for publicizing recruit visits, I thought most of that info came from the recruiting websites per the recruits themselves.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#22
#22
UTHorsey said:
Which is absolutly retarded. The NCAA cannot make rules/govern what a FAN can and cannot do. The whole John Wall/NC State facebook thing for example...it's absolute garbage.
Click to expand...

they don't punish the fan. they punish the school who in turn will punish the fans. I know several Tennessee fans who have lost their tickets for some of the reasons mentioned in that message, contact with recruits.

why people continue these argurments I don't understand. it has been this way for years and years. nothing new except adding in technology
 
#23
#23
If this is true as written, would it not then be a violation for the fans to chant "Choose UT" when the recruits walk down ahead of the Vol Walk?
 
#24
#24
DaddyChad said:
They can make all the rules in the world but this cannot be enforced nor can it even be investigated properly. No way the NCAA can tell whether someone is actually a fan of a team trying to recruit a prospect and who are impostors trying to get someone a violation. I would imagine Facebook and MySpace would tell the NCAA where to stick their investigation if they came looking for information from them.
Click to expand...

the school would have to prove they are not a fan not the NCAA prove they are a fan.

If I have illegal contact with a recruit and the NCAA gets my name and the contact. Goes to UT for then toi answer my status as a fan. They pull me up in donor list and bingo, violation.

What UT would do is take my tickets and disassociate me from the program. Depending on how bad the contact was, did I give money or did I just encourage recruit to go to UT, the NCAA would take that as a satisfactory results or they would impose more.

NCAA gives the school a list of charges and school has opportunity to investigate and determine what happened. They have opportunity to levy their own suggested penalities. NCAA accepts after review or levies additonal penalties / sanctions...

Its not that black and white on every incident. But in my example of myself, would work about like that...
 
#25
#25
I can't believe this is an argument.

Look, there it is. Those are the rules. If you are going to break the rules anyway, then go ahead and ignore them and risk possible punishment for our team.

This is intended to educate those on here that aren't aware of the rules and who wish to abide by them.
 
New posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Advertisement



Back
Top