Recruiting Will Suffer

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VolinArizona

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When Phillip Fulmer heads into homes for recruiting, he'll be fighting an uphill battle that he created. What selling point can he possibly have now?

1. Winning -
We all agree this isn't a selling point right now for UT. Not debatable.

2. Playing time -
The majority of newbies haven't played, whether they haven't learned the plays or just loyalty to upperclassmen. A snap or two a game doesn't entice kids.

3. Coach Fulmer -
After continually throwing players under the bus, not knowing why a player isn't in the game, not playing the guys who have earned it, etc. Players have begun to publicly speak out. His image is slowly dropiing.

4. Tradition -
Recruits obviously weren't alive in the 50s. Future recruits of 2008 signing day were 8 years old in 1998, 2009 class 7 years old, etc etc.

What selling point does Phillip Fulmer have right now when he enters a living room with a recruit's family?
 
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VolinArizona said:
When Phillip Fulmer heads into homes for recruiting, he'll be fighting an uphill battle that he created. What selling point can he possibly have now?

1. Winning -
We all agree this isn't a selling point right now for UT. Not debatable.

2. Playing time -
The majority of newbies haven't played, whether they haven't learned the plays or just loyalty to upperclassmen. A snap or two a game doesn't entice kids.

3. Coach Fulmer -
After continually throwing players under the bus, not knowing why a player isn't in the game, not playing the guys who have earned it, etc. Players have begun to publicly speak out. His image is slowly dropiing.

4. Tradition -
Recruits obviously weren't alive in the 50s. Future recruits of 2008 signing day were 8 years old in 1998, 2009 class 7 years old, etc etc.

What selling point does Phillip Fulmer have right now when he enters a living room with a recruit's family?
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Neyland Stadium.. 'Bout it
 
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not to mention the entire situation with Spurlock going public about wanting to commit and then the coaches saying you're offer has been removed... there is no selling point right now but last year's class didn't suffer so, who knows.
 
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kkep48 said:
not to mention the entire situation with Spurlock going public about wanting to commit and then the coaches saying you're offer has been removed... there is no selling point right now but last year's class didn't suffer so, who knows.
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If that story is true, they really did that kid wrong...very wrong.
 
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Yeah, but look for Jimmy Clausen to come begging for a new home soon. That's a somewhat used (preowned in the auto biz) five star QB right there!
:whistling:
 
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It appears to me that it doesn't matter if our recruiting is ranked in the top 3 or top 50.
 
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VIA, good points. I totally agree. The only thing we really have to offer is:

Our facilities.
 
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VolinArizona said:
When Phillip Fulmer heads into homes for recruiting, he'll be fighting an uphill battle that he created. What selling point can he possibly have now?

1. Winning -
We all agree this isn't a selling point right now for UT. Not debatable.

2. Playing time -
The majority of newbies haven't played, whether they haven't learned the plays or just loyalty to upperclassmen. A snap or two a game doesn't entice kids.

3. Coach Fulmer -
After continually throwing players under the bus, not knowing why a player isn't in the game, not playing the guys who have earned it, etc. Players have begun to publicly speak out. His image is slowly dropiing.

4. Tradition -
Recruits obviously weren't alive in the 50s. Future recruits of 2008 signing day were 8 years old in 1998, 2009 class 7 years old, etc etc.

What selling point does Phillip Fulmer have right now when he enters a living room with a recruit's family?
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This is exactly what concerned me with my post. Hate to say it but excellent points.:clap:
 
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We won't be getting any more recruits from North Carolina. Super-recruiter Butch Davis will take them. If he's ever challenged byt UT, he will simply relate the story of NC native Montario Hardesty.
 
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No, we will continue to get that one decent player from western NC every 4 years or so. But 99% of the good ones come from east of the Appys, so yeah, good point.
 
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VolinArizona said:
When Phillip Fulmer heads into homes for recruiting, he'll be fighting an uphill battle that he created. What selling point can he possibly have now?

1. Winning -
We all agree this isn't a selling point right now for UT. Not debatable.

2. Playing time -
The majority of newbies haven't played, whether they haven't learned the plays or just loyalty to upperclassmen. A snap or two a game doesn't entice kids.

3. Coach Fulmer -
After continually throwing players under the bus, not knowing why a player isn't in the game, not playing the guys who have earned it, etc. Players have begun to publicly speak out. His image is slowly dropiing.

4. Tradition -
Recruits obviously weren't alive in the 50s. Future recruits of 2008 signing day were 8 years old in 1998, 2009 class 7 years old, etc etc.

What selling point does Phillip Fulmer have right now when he enters a living room with a recruit's family?
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Agreed. People talk about wearing paper bags, booing and calling out Fulmer publicly being detrimental to recruiting. While these things do show a lack of class, the issues you put forward will be the main obstacles to bringing in top recruits.
 
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VolinArizona said:
When Phillip Fulmer heads into homes for recruiting, he'll be fighting an uphill battle that he created. What selling point can he possibly have now?

1. Winning -
We all agree this isn't a selling point right now for UT. Not debatable.

2. Playing time -
The majority of newbies haven't played, whether they haven't learned the plays or just loyalty to upperclassmen. A snap or two a game doesn't entice kids.

3. Coach Fulmer -
After continually throwing players under the bus, not knowing why a player isn't in the game, not playing the guys who have earned it, etc. Players have begun to publicly speak out. His image is slowly dropiing.

4. Tradition -
Recruits obviously weren't alive in the 50s. Future recruits of 2008 signing day were 8 years old in 1998, 2009 class 7 years old, etc etc.

What selling point does Phillip Fulmer have right now when he enters a living room with a recruit's family?
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That he will only be there a couple of more months is his biggest seeling point...:)
 
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VolinArizona said:
When Phillip Fulmer heads into homes for recruiting, he'll be fighting an uphill battle that he created. What selling point can he possibly have now?

1. Winning -
We all agree this isn't a selling point right now for UT. Not debatable.

2. Playing time -
The majority of newbies haven't played, whether they haven't learned the plays or just loyalty to upperclassmen. A snap or two a game doesn't entice kids.

3. Coach Fulmer -
After continually throwing players under the bus, not knowing why a player isn't in the game, not playing the guys who have earned it, etc. Players have begun to publicly speak out. His image is slowly dropiing.

4. Tradition -
Recruits obviously weren't alive in the 50s. Future recruits of 2008 signing day were 8 years old in 1998, 2009 class 7 years old, etc etc.

What selling point does Phillip Fulmer have right now when he enters a living room with a recruit's family?
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If you think recruiting is going to be bad. Just wait till hamilton sits on his hands until the end of the year. If by some great miracle he does let phil go then it will be to late to save recruiting by then. I wonder if hamilton realizes lame duck coaches kill recruiting. Anyway look for nuclear winter of recruiting this year. We will be lucky to sneak into the top 25. It's a sad state of affairs.
 
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i got to admit, when i heard Hardesty's comments after the game and now the no show at practice and to see CPF's comments about how "he isn't a good pass catcher" and that "we need to PLAY better" and that "moore and erik weren't on the same paige and cost us some crucial plays", it just keeps adding up to the fact that this thing is just about over.

the questions circling this program right now are valid, and once the players start questioning things, it won't be long before the wheels really do come off.

Chavis did come out and say we needed to coach better. Cut has said it in the past. in know CPF has said the usual "it starts with me" type thing, but you simply can't ignore the disparity with which we were out coached on Saturday.

and whoever said "it appears that it doesnt' matter if we're #3 or #50 in recruiting" was dead on.

for the first time, even moreso than after the FL loss, it "feels" like this is coming to an end for CPF. And i hate it for the man, but there's just no ignoring it now. it's over.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i got to admit, when i heard Hardesty's comments after the game and now the no show at practice and to see CPF's comments about how "he isn't a good pass catcher" and that "we need to PLAY better" and that "moore and erik weren't on the same paige and cost us some crucial plays", it just keeps adding up to the fact that this thing is just about over.

the questions circling this program right now are valid, and once the players start questioning things, it won't be long before the wheels really do come off.

Chavis did come out and say we needed to coach better. Cut has said it in the past. in know CPF has said the usual "it starts with me" type thing, but you simply can't ignore the disparity with which we were out coached on Saturday.

and whoever said "it appears that it doesnt' matter if we're #3 or #50 in recruiting" was dead on.

for the first time, even moreso than after the FL loss, it "feels" like this is coming to an end for CPF. And i hate it for the man, but there's just no ignoring it now. it's over.
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couldn't come soon enough for me
 
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