Recruiting Rankings

[Nocleats]

OK, The top 5 or 6 teams I get, but honestly, some in here are actually upset that Vols are #20 vs #15. Its a freaking mythological ranking that is meaningless and written by companies that charge money so that people can follow. Do you seriously think there is a damn difference between say 13 and 18? Like I said its Obvious uga and Texas helped themselves and bama did good but to get twisted over being .847 behind another team is ,,, well, just dumb and certainly not worth getting pizzed about.

 

[Tumbleweedvol]

I'll wade in here. When I was younger, we didn't have recruiting rankings. We found out in the newspaper and were given the players bios along with their awards like All-state, Parade All-American or all district or region. It was always fun to see who panned out early or the late bloomers and building the whole team. Now we have the internet ready to tell you that the players you recruited aren't worth salt because they aren't highly ranked. I like Scott Frost. He took Central Florida to an undefeated season and beat a good Auburn team with I bet you 2 and 3 star recruits. It's called coaching that's it. :good!:

 

[SayNoToJorts]

People were upset because we were publicly embarrassed while UGA had the best recruiting day in the history of football

 

[UTK]

Yeah it’s the fact we failed to even land ONE
of the big targets. Really? You couldn’t pull ITS away from USC with them already having Griffin? Quay Walker seemed all but a
certainty but nope. UGA. It’s concerning that Pruitt flopped so hard when he’s supposed to be an elite recruiter.

But. We gotta give him a full year and see how he fares. Top 5 class or bust. That’s the type of classes it will take.

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

Yeah it’s the fact we failed to even land ONE
of the big targets. Really? You couldn’t pull ITS away from USC with them already having Griffin? Quay Walker seemed all but a
certainty but nope. UGA. It’s concerning that Pruitt flopped so hard when he’s supposed to be an elite recruiter.

But. We gotta give him a full year and see how he fares. Top 5 class or bust. That’s the type of classes it will take.

Gotta build that reputation back up as well, this is what everyone including myself don't wanna admit cause we love this place so much but kids these days don't think Tennessee like they used to. After the past 9 years we have been a crap show and the national media has absolutely loved to exploit UT in the headlines and has ruined our name and brand to some extent. Like coach Pruitt said yesterday, winning on Saturday is the only PR he needs and the best PR. So let's go to work doing the things it takes to win on Saturday's aight and rebuild our brand aight and then the cruitin stuff will take care of it's self aight. Let's just worry bout who we got and coach em up aight and let's not worry bout who spurned us or made us look bad aight let's go get what we want and make ourselves look good aight and stop depending on gimmicks and other people to do it for us aight!!!!

Go VOLS

 

[Mccage]

Yeah it’s the fact we failed to even land ONE
of the big targets. Really? You couldn’t pull ITS away from USC with them already having Griffin? Quay Walker seemed all but a
certainty but nope. UGA. It’s concerning that Pruitt flopped so hard when he’s supposed to be an elite recruiter.

But. We gotta give him a full year and see how he fares. Top 5 class or bust. That’s the type of classes it will take.

You aint got a clue!!

 

[smokey0625]

Yeah it’s the fact we failed to even land ONE
of the big targets. Really? You couldn’t pull ITS away from USC with them already having Griffin? Quay Walker seemed all but a
certainty but nope. UGA. It’s concerning that Pruitt flopped so hard when he’s supposed to be an elite recruiter.

But. We gotta give him a full year and see how he fares. Top 5 class or bust. That’s the type of classes it will take.

We didn’t pull quay fro the two teams that played for a national championship. Curse Pruitt and his band of misfits.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

I said I would be impressed if Pruitt got our class anywhere between 20 to 15.
So, I am impressed.
That doesn't negate the fact that there is a huge gap between incoming talent and what our biggest rivals have pulled in.
Even if this staff can "coach them up" like no other, we are probably in for some lean years the next couple of seasons.

 

[utvolpj]

Yeah it’s the fact we failed to even land ONE
of the big targets. Really? You couldn’t pull ITS away from USC with them already having Griffin? Quay Walker seemed all but a
certainty but nope. UGA. It’s concerning that Pruitt flopped so hard when he’s supposed to be an elite recruiter.

But. We gotta give him a full year and see how he fares. Top 5 class or bust. That’s the type of classes it will take.

JJ was a big target

 

[butchna]

I'll wade in here. When I was younger, we didn't have recruiting rankings. We found out in the newspaper and were given the players bios along with their awards like All-state, Parade All-American or all district or region. It was always fun to see who panned out early or the late bloomers and building the whole team. Now we have the internet ready to tell you that the players you recruited aren't worth salt because they aren't highly ranked. I like Scott Frost. He took Central Florida to an undefeated season and beat a good Auburn team with I bet you 2 and 3 star recruits. It's called coaching that's it. :good!:

I’ve followed religiously since the mid-80’s and while there wasn’t a STAR system, the players were ranked into the 200’s by different guru’s. Depending on which preseason magazine you perused (I bought em all ). I forget when USA Today and other started the post NSD team rankings but it seemed around the same time frame. I always felt like I invented something with my fascination...just didn’t know there were countless others.

 

[fade route]

OK, The top 5 or 6 teams I get, but honestly, some in here are actually upset that Vols are #20 vs #15. Its a freaking mythological ranking that is meaningless and written by companies that charge money so that people can follow. Do you seriously think there is a damn difference between say 13 and 18? Like I said its Obvious uga and Texas helped themselves and bama did good but to get twisted over being .847 behind another team is ,,, well, just dumb and certainly not worth getting pizzed about.

We always get the thread moaning about the ranking system when our class blows. Thanks for being the guy this year

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

Am I wrong or did we end up with a total of 8 kids that are 4* rated?

Considering a 4 win, 8 Loss and 0 SEC win season with a much delayed HC signing and some kids not even knowing or meeting with their position coach and a very late start on recruiting for our coaches, I'd have to say that getting 8 kids rated 4* is a pretty good job.

Kids want a good bowl game with a nice gift bag of goodies to make themselves feel good and important, NOT to come help with a total rebuild of a Traditional historic program.

Also remember that Pruitt has always been a really good recruiter BUT he's now a Head Coach so NCAA rules say Pruitt can NOT have personal visits except 1 time, ONLY 1 and that's totally ignorant and needs to be changed.

Pruitt is used to making constant visits all year long to really get to know the kids and their family but that's NOT happening now so it's hurt his personal recruiting.

You can bet that Pruitt and his staff have learned many things in their short recruiting this time around and that many things will change on how they recruit with a full year to
work on kids and their family now.

Getting us back in a Bowl game this year will help show kids that UT is back on the upswing and they'll still get plenty of early playing time too.

I expect a much better recruiting class next year...Bet on it!

VFL...GBO!!!

 

[GrizzlyVol]

I've read volnation for years and I've enjoyed it alot so I decided it was time for me to get set up to post comments because I have really enjoyed the conversations you all have. With my first post I would like to say I can't stand the player rankings and the "how many stars are they" system. I honestly believe you can't judge a player by what is on paper or how they will react to the speed of the game once they are in big time college football. I'm very happy with CJP and know he's a great football coach who will coach this team up. Yeah Georgia had a great recruiting class on paper alot of good players I'm sure but who really knows how they'll work out. What I do know is in 1985 Tennessee wasn't the most talented team on paper in the Sugar Bowl but with good coaching that turned out very well for us. Sorry for the long rambling excited to be here.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

OK, The top 5 or 6 teams I get, but honestly, some in here are actually upset that Vols are #20 vs #15. Its a freaking mythological ranking that is meaningless and written by companies that charge money so that people can follow. Do you seriously think there is a damn difference between say 13 and 18? Like I said its Obvious uga and Texas helped themselves and bama did good but to get twisted over being .847 behind another team is ,,, well, just dumb and certainly not worth getting pizzed about.

Uhhhhh. . . with the all the noisy racket of fan complaints, even when Butch was having semi-reasonable success. We also had all the griping about our administration, in-game coaching decisions, hateful comments about players, and the "****iano" protest. With all that, I'm happy we got any players of even mid-level caliber to come and play here. I wouldn't fault guys who are almost sure draft picks going to a program with an on-going history of success and having players drafted. That being said, I think we're going to be a sneaky good team. My only real misgiving is that Dormady is transferring. On account I think he would have been the perfect QB for what will be Helton's system. What he needed was a coach who could develop him, and of course a halfway decent OL blocking for him. Butch was stupid to gt rid of Dave Lawson. Pruitt won't make such a mistake. We're going to see that workout facility worn out and outputting players who look the part of SEC OL and DL players. Then get on the field and play like it. Dormady would have bloomed in what's coming. But our remaining guy will do fine as well despite not quite having the touch Dormady has with his passes.
So again, I'm happy we got the players we did because they had the chance to go to a far less volatile program and didn't. So how about some serious love for these in-coming players?

 

[Wireless1]

Do the rankings take into account the number of players signed? When the previous regime would sign 30 players we'd be in the top 10, Pruitt signs 22 (I believe) and we're 20. If He'd added (4) 3 star and (4) 2 star would we have been ranked higher?

 

[VolForLife83]

Gotta build that reputation back up as well, this is what everyone including myself don't wanna admit cause we love this place so much but kids these days don't think Tennessee like they used to. After the past 9 years we have been a crap show and the national media has absolutely loved to exploit UT in the headlines and has ruined our name and brand to some extent. Like coach Pruitt said yesterday, winning on Saturday is the only PR he needs and the best PR. So let's go to work doing the things it takes to win on Saturday's aight and rebuild our brand aight and then the cruitin stuff will take care of it's self aight. Let's just worry bout who we got and coach em up aight and let's not worry bout who spurned us or made us look bad aight let's go get what we want and make ourselves look good aight and stop depending on gimmicks and other people to do it for us aight!!!!

Go VOLS

Amen

I just hope he can do it with less talent

 

[utvolfan18]

I personally feel like we are fortunate to sign the recruits that we did...We went 0-8 in our conference, had key players walk out on their team and named our new staff days before the early signing period. It would have been nice to sign all of the targets, but with a reality check, I for one am satisfied with the class we signed.

 

[Iam4utalways]

CJP is a stand up guy. He and his staff were selling other schools and he said he wasn't going to all of a sudden sell UT to them just because of a check. As much as I don't like that, I respect that.

If anyone is satisfied with 20 you have lowered the bar. Top 5 is the plan for 2019.

 

[jakez4ut]

Yeah it’s the fact we failed to even land ONE
of the big targets. Really? You couldn’t pull ITS away from USC with them already having Griffin? Quay Walker seemed all but a
certainty but nope. UGA. It’s concerning that Pruitt flopped so hard when he’s supposed to be an elite recruiter.

But. We gotta give him a full year and see how he fares. Top 5 class or bust. That’s the type of classes it will take.

56 to 20, stepping in after the debacle that ensued from Thanksgiving weekend until the day he was hired.....

it's disappointing that we didn't connect on any of the big swings we took. no argument.

it is not a flop, at least not a flop that was of his doing.

 

[Nocleats]

We always get the thread moaning about the ranking system when our class blows. Thanks for being the guy this year

So you believe that there is a difference, a true measurable difference in being # 20 and #16 ? Which was the point.

 

[Nocleats]

Also cant help but wonder what it would have been if there hadn't been an early sign date.

 

[Volfan2012]

I'll judge him on the next recruiting class hard to do much with this one the next one is where we have to hope he shines.

 

[VolForLife83]

I'm Disappointed With The 20 Spot, 8/9th In The SEC just as much as anyone else, but to call,Pruitt a flop, is a bit of a reach at this point. Give Him Next Year, then pass judgment. It Was A Very Ugly Time For UT

 

[Nocleats]

I'm Disappointed With The 20 Spot, 8/9th In The SEC just as much as anyone else, but to call,Pruitt a flop, is a bit of a reach at this point. Give Him Next Year, then pass judgment. It Was A Very Ugly Time For UT

20th vs 15th, 8th vs 5th??? I mean who says and why do we follow?

 

[jakez4ut]

Also cant help but wonder what it would have been if there hadn't been an early sign date.

i think the only thing that may have changed would have been the difference in the back up plans.

i'm not sure the ESD had anything to do with the big misses.

it definitely had something to do with who might have said yes, had they been available to do so, in case of those misses.

i think that's where we felt it the most. and knowing that to be the case, we took a high risk/reward approach and it did not work out.

this staff probably learned a lot thru this. and i believe the man when he says we're going to get back up where we need to be to compete. he places too much priority on the jimmy's and joe's not to.

still won't be easy given who we are going to have to compete with.....